orrakul
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I would love for JW to be writing the score for Superman, but I don't think so guys... It's highly unlikely.
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sorry gents but the rhythmic pattern in The Vampire Hunters is NOT the same as Mars, The bringer of War. First, the beat division is set in a 4/4 time signature. Holst's is set in 5/4. Secondly, the orchestration is very little like Mars.
Just because a composer uses a repeating ostinato figure doesn't mean it's ripped off from Holst. When I interviewed Gabriel Yared a few years back and mentioned how he brilliantly evoked the Mars movement for Troy, he revealed he'd never heard that piece and that he'd shyed away from it because he was told it sounded like film music of which he's never been too interested in. His actual influence for that opening track was Ravel's Bolero. Yet most people, myself included, naturally thought he was evoking Holst.
That's great news for fans of James Horner and Gabriel Yared. Could this also mean that there's a slight chance that maybe John Williams isn't ripping off every composer who has ever lived when he composes his scores?
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Me too! It's too bad that the movie wasn't as good as the score...
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oh Man, we've got to find a way to get everyone on the board a copy of this.
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The "Mission" theme is one of my favourite pieces - I have it on the "By Request" CD. I just listened to "The Mission Part 1" at the link mentioned above; it's quite simply breathtaking.
(and, please don't anyone burst my bubble, and tell me what 3 notes from an 300 year spanish opera were "borrowed" by JW for this piece - or that he "lifted" the 3 notes of the NBC chimes...
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It's definitely a stogie...
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I wouldn't mind getting my hands on the bust of the babe who's still on the cover of the UK edition of Gramophone 8O
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You can still listen to it on BBC's website, go here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/filmprogramme/
Click on "Listen to the most recent edition".
Thanks for letting me know - it was a good listen!
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I missed it in a confusion of EST, EDT and GMT...! Hopefully someone (smarter than me) was able to record it.
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I guess it's just mashed potatoes and sausages for you... How bland.
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Of course he eats Sushi; he lives in California and works in the film industry, and he's unquestionably a cultured individual...!
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Aliens, Willow, and Star Trek II come to mind. Those were very good scores.
Ted
That's when Horner was a young and hungry composer...
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The 20th anniversary edition would work too. I took what "robthehand" wrote to mean that the OST is a logical starting point (rather than using concert versions, or versions conducted by other people such as Kunzel).
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Film music is like the opera music of our time.
That's quite correct; If Wolfgang Amamdeus Mozart was alive today, I believe that he'd be living in L.A. and scoring movies...
It's just cultural elitism - if something is popular, there are some who think this is a sign of inferior quality...
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The reason Star Wars tops the poll for me is because it brings back so many childhood memories of great times.
You nailed it Mark. I was a young boy when Star Wars came out (I still don't call it "A New Hope"). The music takes me right back to my feelings back then - it has an emotional impact on me still... I also saw CE3K when it first came out shortly after Star Wars; CE3K also had a huge affect on me, but Star Wars was my favourite...
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JW has written hundreds of hours of music; the music is played by some of the most renowned symphony orchestras in the world - people who know alot of music and alot about music. Surely, pride alone would prevent him from stealing.
I don't buy it - when you write so much music, there are always going to be similar themes/motifs - but, outright, blatant "rip off" by JW - I don't think so. I'm not being a "fan-boy", but we should remember that he has mere weeks to compose scores, and he does see the films with temp scores - he is human, but I don't believe he steals (and that's what we're talking about here).
If you look hard enough, you'll hear many similarities bewteen various musical compositions - but just because someone else wrote something similar doesn't mean that JW stole anything.
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I only know The Reivers - I like it very much...
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Steef and Merkel are correct.
Even the WGA can't rank screenplays, and say which is best. Duel or Jaws directed by a lesser talent than Steven Spielberg could have been the most forgettable of films.
The small polls that we've all done recently are more valid than the list the WGA has compiled; at least we voted on our "favourite", which is very different from saying with any certainty what's the "best".
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CE3K.
This has been a series of polls for voting down lots and lots of my favourites. At some point, it kind of stopped being "fun", but it was interesting to see what the consensus of the board was.
Based on the voting, I discovered some of my scores that I'm going to have to re-visit.
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At least your flushing was heroic; if the turds themselves were heroic, I would have to suggest more fibre in your diet...
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Jaws.
I'm blown away that CE3K looks like it's the next one off the list. But, then again, "we" did recently vote off The Empire strikes Back...
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Steef's last post (and the 4 that follow it) are absolutely correct!
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No composer ever composed 4 such great scores in a 4 year period.
They are all Oscar nominee's, and all are perfect.
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They're all phenomenal scores... JW pumped these scores out within 3 years of each other; it's an amazing achievement!
The Forest Battle - 40 seconds of Sheer magnificent Genuis!
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ROTJ is a much underrated score (IMO).