Beowulf
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I was in my car, daydreaming, when I suddenly realized that the opening theme from Capricorn One is simply a bombastic take on Thus Spake Zarathustra. I'm sure everyone else has known this for many years. D'oh.
You're a moron.
Don't worry, that may be the single piece of classical music which has been ripped off more than any other.
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I never heard the similarity between Jaws and Dvorak's 9th(5th) , the atmosphere is all wrong.Must admit I do not get the Dvorak thing at all...
I believe the similarity between the two pieces that most people hear is that of the main shark motif in Jaws (da dah....da dah....da dah da dah etc etc) and the beginning of the 4th movement of Dvorak's 9 Symphony.
Personally I think this is just a coincidence. Both pieces have a prominent two-note ascending theme in the low strings which some people probably assume are related to one another (implying that JW used this as inspiration). But while Dvorak's theme is only for a few bars at the most, JW plays around with this two-note motif for sometime, further augmenting it with brass punctuations. This is why I don't think the two pieces are similar.
It would help if you told us what moment it was.....This part..
http://hometown.aol.com/Orlandopiano/jaws6.mp3
You have to turn the volume up loud enough to hear it.
Now *this* part I can hear the similarity. But then again, i'm not surprised since Prokofiev seems to have been a major influence on JW as many people have noticed before (I made a thread recently comparing parts of Prokofiev's 5th Symphony to E.T. and Close Encounters).
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I need any info you could get me on john, the more interesting the better. All replyies appreciated.
Thanks!!!
Is not amused with your username.
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As a clarinetist, i'm glad to hear that so many people here actually appreciate the instrument! There is nothing more in this world that brings me joy than playing my clarinet either on my own or in any of the various ensembles that i'm in (Orchestra is definitely my favorite).
As for my favorite Williams' pieces where he utilizes the clarinet, I can name a couple right off the top of my head:
- There's are many gorgeous moments in E.T. for clarinet, but more specifically in the track I'm keeping him there's a short E-flat clarinet part I love especially
- In TOD in the track Nocturnal Activities there's some wonderfully whimsical clarinet parts that occur near the middle of the track
- The Float from CMIYC provides great parts for all members of the Clarinet family
- and who can resist the fun clarinet bits in Cantina Band?
There are innumerable other parts in Williams' repertoire that I could mention, but the list would be too long (as it would be for other instruments - most especially the Horn).
If anyone is interested in hearing other great pieces for clarinet, I'm currently learning two that are fantastic: Copland's Clarinet Concerto and Debussy's Rhapsody for Clarinet - i'll tell you, they are definitely not easy pieces to play!
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What do those of you who've heard this think of JW's interpretation? Generally I find JW to be an excellent conductor of classical music, and wouldn't be surprised if this recording was no exception.
Does anyone know if he ever tackled any serious stuff, like Prokofiev, Mahler, Shostokovich and the like?
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I would gladly devour more of JW's Concert Works.....I suppose I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
The pieces i'm most familiar with are the ones he wrote for the Olympics, which in my mind are spectacular (especially "Summon the Heroes").
Are there any readily available recordings of the Concerto you mentioned?
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Try telling that to a 14-year old boy who has consumed about a litre of coke and is confronted with the Flooding of Isengard (over 2 1/2 hours into the film).
I had never thought about that!
But now that you mention it, I do remember quite a few people leaving the theater at that particular point in the movie....now I know why.
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The only thing i'm concerned with when going to a cinema is that there are no slack-jawed simpletons who ape and gesticulate towards the screen, all the while loudly providing insipid commentary on what they think is going on in the film.
Unfortunately, this is not a rarity here (and even more so at home in the States).
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A Tribute to some of the best soundtracks ever part 2
I have created my new soundtrack tribute and is now on youtube for viewing. Featuring music from John Williams, Howard Shore and Alan Silvestri including his lovely piece from Cast Away (and not the braveheart music which was in the trailer)
I know there is a lot more soundtracks out there that were not included but I only get 10 minutes so dont think I forgot your favourites just dont get enough time in the clip
ps - realised i spelt consideration wrong in the heading
I agree with Miguel...good job, and look forward to seeing many more!
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I'm curious to see how this film will turn out, especially with the cast assembled for this one.
Well they nailed the alcoholic/addiction aspect of Stark's personality by casting Robert Downey Jr., that's for sure...
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According to an interview with John Debney at Aint It Cool, he's being considered to score the new Superhero flick Iron Man that will begin production soon.
I don't know about you guys, but i'm quite keen to hear Debney tackle a score of this kind - I think he could do a fantastic job coming up with Brassy fanfares and soaring melodies befitting the genre. -
Will anyone remember your name?
People will remember my name because I am SPARTACUS!
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this is a great resource.
http://www.imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page
be sure to read the copyright rules
Pi,
This may be the single greatest thing that I have ever come across while on the internet.
Thank you very much!
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It's heavenly music, but by no means is it beyond the abilities of JW.
I respectfully disagree.
It is a piece that was borne of a certain time, style and passion - things that are hard to reproduce methinks by anyone.
Hmm. I must check that out
Indeed you should....you can start here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1xHnGb778
Oh...and turn your speakers WAY up.
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As much as I love Johnny, I don't think he could ever replicate the gorgeous and blissful sonority of Debussy's tone poem "Prelude on the Afternoon of a Faun".
That piece will never cease to amaze me as long as I live - surely it is a testament to the genius of Human creativity.
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But I would say "what happened to Tank" is the least of all Matrix mysteries.
Quite simple really. The actor that portrayed 'Tank' demanded more money - the producers refused and the character was ignominiously erased without any further character development. I believe a certain 'Captain Panaka' met a similar fate.
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I actually like all the movies and scores. Don Davis did some amazing work for the 3 films (and I enjoyed his collaboration with Juno Reactor, a group I liked before the movies).
I guess i'm in the minority on this one, but I think that the overall story-arc is executed perfectly in the 3-act movie form, and there's some great philosophical underpinnings about technology that adds depth to the story. The trilogy is surely a cyberpunks dream.
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I would but it doesn't appear to be playing on terrestrial TV here in Britain
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I detected it after I saw a documentary on TV about it. You can hold the cd against a lamp (light). If it has little dots where the light can shine through the cd is affected.
The surface of a cd is like everything else - it will eventually wear down after time (especially at the micro-layer, which is especially bad for cds since that is the layer at which they are read). And if anyone else was like me in their listening habits before the advent of digital storage, my cds went through a hellofalot of usage.
Have you heard any difference in the sound in addition to seeing these 'dots'?
I thought I read once that if you have your CD's in direct sunlight for a very long period of time it will effect them? Was I dreaming that? I could have sworn I read something like that...I would think that prolonged and continuous exposure to sunlight would make quick work of cds, considering there's nothing like the radiation of the sun to gradually chip away at, well...everything.
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Good....Trek could use more Leitmotif (as long as the Enterprise continues to have a rousing and fitting theme, i'm happy).
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Delibes' Flower Duet from the opera "Lakme"....
Although, you'd need another person to duet with!
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Korngold The Sea Hawk Theme
Steiner Casablanca Suite
Rozsa The Love of the Princess from The Thief of Bagdad
Stothart The Wizard of Oz Suite
Korngold Escape Me Never Suite (UK première)
Newman Street Scene Suite
Korngold The Adventures of Robin Hood Suite
Waxman (arr. John Wilson) The Philadelphia Story Suite
Williams Close Encounters of the Third Kind Suite
Damn, I have to go to this.
*drools*
Would LOVE to hear Korngold's "Sea Hawk" performed live someday....and the other pieces plus ending on the CE3K suite??
Bliss!
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I've noticed the Prokofiev 5th sounds Williams-esque - check out one of the themes in the last movement, it's quite similar to the love theme from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (rhythmically the same, harmonically not).
Just paid attention to this, and now that you mention it...you've hit the nail on the head. There seems to be a certain humor expressed in the 4th movement that is very similar to many moments in ToD. These musical jokes are something i've always enjoyed, whether they be from the productive Shostakovich, Prokofiev or even the Maestro himself (and because I listened to ToD before any classical pieces, i'd say ToD formed the basis of my liking this type of music).
I love this piece!
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I speak as something of an outsider here since I am not a great fan of the films (they've just always been there, somehow, usually at Christmas) and I rarely listen to the scores (the only one I don't own is "Temple of Doom" - why does this score not appear to be reviewed on Filmtracks, by the way?). I am not a huge adherent of "action music" and since these are action films and action scores par excellence I guess that must be the underlying reason for my comparative lack of enthusiasm.
The single track I do love, however, comes from "The Last Crusade" and that is "The Penitient Man Will Pass". The beautiful simple tune in this track, which I imagine to be the oft-quoted "Grail theme" is amongst the most haunting that Williams has ever penned. I only wish we heard it more often in the soundtrack, or that it was given a concert piece treatment. Has it ever been?
Apologies if I make lost of glaring imbecilities above - I'm just more of an "Angela's Ashes" man.
No need to apologize - the simple fact is that when you hear ToD in all its explosive glory, you'll change your mind - that's the point, not too many people have actually *listened* to this absolute gem of a score.
Favorite cello pizzicato 3-note sequence from any JW score from 1992-1994 on reel 3 of the movie
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You, sir, win the internets.
Too bad I don't know any answer to your question