ChrisAfonso
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Not even if there are alternates/cues not on the expanded score on the OST? Like Rosewood etc.
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There really is NO reason to buy the Standard OST this time around. Not only is there no liners, the SE also has an exclusive two page note from PJ, not to mention the interactive sketch and most importantly, more music!
Sure there is - my OCD demands it! (I also have two versions of the OST for TTT, the "regular edition" and the special edition w/ the FOTR EE track - since there is a minor trim somewhere in the TTT music to make room for the bonus track. I have no idea where that trim is, but I know I had to have the FULL TRACK
) One trim in "The Uruk-Hai" and one in "The Black Gate is closed". Those were very jarring after being familiar with the "regular" tracks before getting the Collector's Edition...
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As it was with AUJ, the album is a more satisfying experience. Also because Jackson deemed it fitting to, again, omit Shore's closing music before the end credits, meaning the last 30 seconds of "My Armour Is Iron".
Is this a time estimate from memory, or accurate to the track? because that would be right in the middle of the final minute-long choral section (and a real pity, going by the music - in AUJ I could understand the reasoning behind not having that big buildup at the end, as enjoyable as it is on CD)
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Mine says "shipment will arrive between Jan 9 and Jan 28"... oh, such trials of patience...
*want* *read* *booklet* *precioussss*...
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Hey I was joking too. I will be at the theater with a pen, notepad, stopwatch and a metronome.
The metronome especially will be agreeable to the rest of the audience, I'm certain.
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Sadly, unlike many other new themes/motifs, those for Bard and Beorn really underwhelm me... simple and bland. I hope he has some development of those up his sleeve for TABA.
I have to agree here.
This was my complaint with the Erebor and Thorin themes in AUJ. But Shore really developed and honed them for DoS. The second half of the album has some great renditions of the Dwarvish material.
Can't agree on Thorin there, that theme was already good and promising in AUJ. And Erebor, while very simple, kept to a few scene-setting (prologue) or vague reminiscing (Bag End; as counterpoint in Moon Runes) statements and stayed intriguing that way. Perhaps that's my problem with Bard's theme, at least from the album presentation: it's repeated several times, always with the same chord progression going back and forth, which gets on my nerves and triggers the "get on with it!"-center in my brain. Have to recall the hunble beginnings of Aragorn's theme in FotR and keep hopeful
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Sadly, unlike many other new themes/motifs, those for Bard and Beorn really underwhelm me... simple and bland. I hope he has some development of those up his sleeve for TABA.
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I'd say they're explicit in the same way the Helm's Deep actoon version of Lothlorien was explicit. The more "athmospheric" version from "Woodland realm" sounds similarly veiled to me.
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I do have to say though, I'm not the biggest fan of what is apparently Legolas' motive. The phrygian stuff is a little too on the nose for me there. Conjures up too many non-Middle-Earth associations in my mind.
How so? Since the first appearance of the Lothlorien theme in FotR the phrygian mode has been connected to Elvish settings.
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...and full of themes
But who knows (Thor?) how much of the music makes itself noticeable in the middle of the frenzy that this scene seemingly is? -
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How is Tauriel's theme only five notes long? Its "generating motif" is, and the theme is strongly built from just this motif, but in its entirety the theme is longer than that.
True, but most of the statements of that theme in the score are of that opening, especially in the action music. Like The Raiders March was never fully stated up untill the Submarine scene.
But this comparison directly contradicts your statement, as I don't believe you would say that the Raiders March was only 4 notes long
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I'd concur with Steef regarding the importance of emotional effect in music, even regarding "music for people with a music education". There has been too much music that has been written as a theoretical or technical exercise, which can be rewarding and interesting to dissect on its own, but compared to that a piece will always win (in my regard), that achieves this while providing a satisfying emotional arc - which is, with concert music as with film scores, the prime reason I come back for more detailed and "dissective" listening in the first place.
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How is Tauriel's theme only five notes long? Its "generating motif" is, and the theme is strongly built from just this motif, but in its entirety the theme is longer than that.
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Can somebody who got the WaterTower Special Edition confirm that it's in the same sturdy "book" design as AUJ's?
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As long as this is due to Thor's tastes and not to the score as celebrated here having been cut up and replaced with tracked material like the last one, all is fine
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Thank you Doug! That makes complete sense as always. Would you, if able, elaborate a bit on this "manifesto" business?
I'd think it's a guide at the beginning of the score/parts, listing every "unusual" playing technique and outlining its meaning... something very common in modern music, every composer has to have his list of favorite techniques and their notations (of which there are often several differing ones for the same or similar techniques)
Perhaps Shore has a standard sheet containing everything necessary that gets handed out to the players at the start? -
It actually is
Hm, 3:00 makes me think of the Woodland Realm theme...
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0:36 of A Liar and A Thief, thats one of Bilbo's themes right?No idea what you're talking about
That's the Arkenstone theme.
Doesn't the Arkenstone theme also open the track Kingsfoil?
I just realized that might the small fragment of a melody on celli in the opening of Wilderland also be a quote of the Arkenstone theme (at 0:16-0:20)?
This, and also "The Trollshaws" on AUJ Disc 1, or not? That sounds very close to a variation of the theme in DOS
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Sleep now and dream
Of the ones who came before
They are calling
From across the distant Shore...
What can you see on the horizon?
Why do the fanboys call?
To messageboard still KK rises
Blood Boal has come to hurry him home.
There's some pun on "Shore" missing from this
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My resolve is waning, considering the Decca is out now, while the WaterTower doesn't seem to ship until the 10th, and then will take a considerable amount of time getting delivered here...
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Thanks for the comments, I guess I'll take another close look on the order page.
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I pre-ordered the SE from amazon.co.uk this time, to avoid the shitty floppy digipak, but I'm a little concerned that the image shown there looks more like one of those than a proper sturdy digibook... should I worry?
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Humor. A difficult concept.
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By the way, what's the motif in "On the doorstep"@7:14 / "A Liar and a Thief"@0:40 for? It seems to be the same as the ominous string line at the beginning of "Wilderland".
Isn't that part of the Arkenstone motif? Which is also associated with the Map and the Key.
Indeed, thanks! My memories of AUJ are getting thin... time to get that blu.
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By the way, what's the motif in "On the doorstep"@7:14 / "A Liar and a Thief"@0:40 for? It seems to be the same as the ominous string line at the beginning of "Wilderland".
Which version of the Desolation of Smaug soundtrack will you buy?
in Tolkien Central
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Where did you order it? Mine has now shipped from amazon.com with an estimated delivery of Jan 7th.