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It seems like people can't read. Feel free to post a harmonic analysis but I was looking for an answer on my question.
I sure can read english, although my english is covered by dust... since I haven't been in an english speaking country for more than a year now.
For your answer on bar 5, I'll look into it on sunday. 8O
Philippe BL
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So I take it:
1) Nobody besides me owns the Signature Edition Three Pieces for violin and piano, or:
2) Nobody besides me can give any judgment about the harmonic content.
Correct?
No. I do own the Signature Edition of the Three Pieces... that's what I'm telling you. This is not just a piano reduction of the orchestra (of course the violin is the same). I got a a very busy week (two concerts and a masterclass). On sunday, I'll post a complete harmonic analysis (about the different scores).
Philippe BL
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yes, the violin/piano score from Schindler's List is very, VERY different from the orchestral score, and is in no way just a piano reduction. It has been simplified, even rearranged (the chords aren't the same, sometimes, a chord has been added to close a musical sentence, which is very very ugly imo)...
I've myself played (and conducted) these pieces many times, and I've made my own piano reduction when I play this piece in trio (violin/ english horn / piano)
I'll give you harmonic precision if you ask (but another day, I got a very busy evening).
Bye all
Philippe BL
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Yes, there are a few french members navigating the site (some are friends of mine actually, but rarely post).
I remember another french jwfan forum member... but i can't recall his name... :roll:
Philippe - who's getting very nervous 'cause his concert is in 4 days now...
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Here's the link to order it directly for cinemusic (for those who can't read french.
http://secure.oxatis.com/PBShoppingCart.as...p?ItemID=349854
Philippe BL
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Hey, at least I was in the right ballpark and readily admitted I wasn't sure about the accent. I do know for a fact thought that it's not "walla", "whalla" or "viola".
Neil
Your french is quite fine indeed...
Now, lesson2: how do you spell "menage a trois" with the right accents ?
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I took one look at this thread and thought it might have been about something else. THen I saw Stefan didn't start it.
Hehe... I was waiting for someone to point out that....
IMO, technic in film scoring means so much particuliar things: orchestration color, opacity, dynamics, tempo and rythm but especially transitions and natural continuity of the music (or a voluntary stop or fermata).
I have one example in mind: in the Return of the King, there is one transition that is so bad, it made me nearly jump out of my seat (a landscape with light wide music, then suddendly coming out of nowhere, a scene the Castle, with a kind of "cheap twisted" music... argh I hate those moments.
Well, Williams is a pro for these kind of scene. Goldsmith perfectely reacts to the movement of the camera, the way the actors move, their different moods...
Herrmann was a great "catch the movie in one musical flick" composer.
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The Pianist (Enguerrand-Friedrich Lühl) is in fact a very close friend of mine. We also have the same producer of film music.
The CD will soon be available through amazon.fr and fnac.com where you can order by credit card. It's a matter of week now.
Anyway, if you absolutely want it now (especially for you Neil ), give me your personnal adress, and I will ask how can that be done (with money transfert ? cash ?)
Philippe
Ps: JOHN WILLIAMS ON PIANO Vol2 is already in work... with more incredible music from the Maestro!
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I just wanted to thank you Ricard (or is it you Neil, or Andreas ?) for posting the news on the front page.
Also thanks to all of you for your support and replies
Philippe
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I forgot to mention the adress:
http://www.musique-et-toile.asso.fr
You can book your seats here too
Happy New Year everyone !!
PBL
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The score are all available to buy or rent.
For all JW scores I use the Hal Leonard Signature Edition.
I have the original Sous le Sable and The Lover (L'amant) Score.
Some Suite are very quasi identical to the original film music: Dances with Wolves, Mission, Ben Hur, Gone With The Wind, Star Trek...
Some Suites aren't so close, so I have to modify them (change the orchestration, or the order of the suite... or the tonality...) Lord of the Rings, Braveheart, Mask of Zorro. If you want the detail, I can give it to you. But later, it's 3:30 am here, I'm off to bed.
PBL
Ps: I've forgotten Moonriver from Breakfast at Tiffany's by Henri Mancini
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Yes, yes, including much Williams' music
On Tueday January 13th, 8:30 pm, I will be conducting the
Orchestre Cinematographique de Paris
in Paris, in the Mairie du XIIIe arrondissement, 1 place d'Italie. It has been a long time since we performed in symphonic formation (I guess nearly 2 years).
This program is in fact a glimpse of different kinds of film music, an overview of various composer of this wonderful art, showing very specific and different languages, colors and moods of each music.
Here's the program:
AVENTURE
- INDIANA JONES J. Williams The Raiders March
- THE MASK OF ZORRO J. Horner Symphonic Suite
- THE LORD OF THE RINGS H. Shore Symphonic Suite from the Fellowship of the Rings & The Two Towers
- SUPERMAN J. Williams Main Title
EMOTION
- THE LOVER G. Yared Main Title
- SOUS LE SABLE P. Rombi Suite Symphonique
- BEN HUR M. Rozsa Love Theme
- GONE WITH THE WIND M. Steiner Tara's Theme
HISTORY
- MISSION E. Morricone Gabriel's Oboe
- DANCES WITH WOLVES J. Barry Looks like a suicide & John Dunbar Theme
- SCHINDLER'S LIST J. Williams Main Theme
- BRAVEHEART J. Horner Symphonique Suite
SPACE
- E.T. J. Williams Adventures on Earth
- STAR TREK J. Goldsmith Main Title
- APOLLO 13 J. Horner Main Title
- STAR WARS J. Williams Main Title - Princess Leia - Imperial March - Yoda - Throne Room & End Credits
More information by email: ocp@noos.fr
Or in this forum on this thread
Thank you Neil, Andreas, Ricard (btw, could you make a note in the main page for this, that would be terrific...)
Philippe BL.
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Sounds like 100% Williams for me too
By the way, Jostein, how come did you take the very same picture for your logo as mine ? I know I haven't posted very much lately... but still...
gosh, I'll have to find another one.
Does anyone know when Terminal is scheduled on recording sessions ? (february i guess ?)
Philippe
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Thanks a lot Eric for your sharing about this... I know what movie I will see next
Philippe
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HOOK all the way !!
I'm always wondering why John Williams doesn't push Hal Leonard to publish it... it's so wonderfull.. and in most of his concerts, he puts some Hook music... so why don't they release it ?
Philippe - who's again angry because he wants to conduct Hook in concert.
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Personnaly, I'd rather hear Asteroid Field, or Scherzo for motorcycle and orchestra than The Forest Battle... even the Battle of Hoth ! that would be amazing.
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I completely agree Musicpete... especially for that 12pm-4am process
Anyway, as you said jsawruk, in fact when you're reading a score that contains clarinets in B, horn in F or english horn, you even don't care about the keys, you just have the habit to read that what that you instantly hear the correct pitch. In fact, I'm having much more difficulties to read a score in C (like some Stravinski's or contemporary composers). But anyway, it's a question of habits and learning process.
Philippe - who likes Hal Leonard scores, always very clear to read
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Same here woohoo John Williams 2005 RULEZ... !!
(hum... hum...)
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Definitely Images. I love that score. As you said Morn (and Tpigeon), unique and very surprising
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It's true that film music in general are quite rejected by classical elitists... but still: I like to share my position as a student in piano and orchestral conducting by saying that many of my professors have composed, or conducted, or like, or analyse, or play film music. Few are the really narrow-minded ones that doesn't even hear one note of music (and I'm sure they didn't have in their all life).
And most of all, I try to incorporate film music, or John's williams music in all (if the programs' coherence allows it) of my concerts.
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I highly recommend Bruno Walter's version of the Mozart Requiem. Much more interessant that Karajan's version. Also the baroque version of Herrewege is quite brillant.
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Great news Jeremy ! Congratulations
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Oh well so much for one of the biggest mistakes in film score history being given a chance at redemption!
aren't you a little harsh on Eric Serra's music here ? I think his score for a bond movie was really acurate and inovative... so much rythm and emotions. An element that Arnold praises and had recollected for his own scores.
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That doesn't mean i'm always satisfied with his melodical compositions (HP2, Always, BOT3OJ...)
Is that Born on the 3rd of July?
indeed I was too tired not to notice this missprint.
French JW Album (as seen on the mainpage)
in General Discussion
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Hi There. I got next to me the very pianist that recorded this album, Enguerrand-Friedrich Lühl
He's very touched by your comments and thanks you.
Just to let you know, this album was recorded in Paris in a little concert Hall (140 seats) so yes, the sound is perhaps a little limited by the acoustic of the room, and the piano was a Bösendorfer imperial, with extra keys on the bass (that's the reason why in Jaws and Superman actually the balance is clearly "overbassified" )
Thanks to all
Philippe BL