SeekUYoda
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Sigh. Where are Kathy (Mari) and Ren and Greta to help me?
I really don't know. I know a lot of other women who are huge fans of film music but probably just don't have time to talk about it, especially not online - or they're just not nerdy enough to want to discuss JW's music this obsessively.
There's a difference in being interested in and loving and really appreciating great film music and having this compulsive need to know everything about a particular composer and his music. I really don't know why more girls don't have that need, but I don't think it relates to the lack of female composers. -
Just voted - Imperial March all the way. It's now 22-20 to the Empire.
And come on, doesn't Imperial March get extra points for brilliance - going "crash-boom" instead of "boom-crash" since it's a bad-guy theme?
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I've so been enjoying the box set releases - I've got Raiders in my car and am having such fun with it, I'm probably speeding a lot! I can't rank them yet. Raiders is first because it's my current favorite, but I can't rank TOD/LC. When I finally move on to TOD, I'm sure I'll change my mind.
It's like SW - "Luke & Leia" is one of my favorite themes, but ROTJ is not my favorite score, so how does that rank?
Raiders gets extra points for being brilliant, vintage LSO.
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It was watching Evening at Pops in the very early 90s, and then I ran across my parents' By Request cassette and confiscated it as my own. As a horn player, it was pretty much a foregone conclusion.
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Back to the recording - this is going to be fantastic. Oystein brings a whole new meaning to the term "virtuoso." Check
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I was going to mention Snape, but movie Snape isn't nearly as good as book Snape and "Movie villains" are the topic at hand. So no Snape.
I'm glad someone mentioned the Emperor. But for the sake of not being repetitive, I'm going to vote for the Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. He's evil and creepy in a way that is enjoyable rather than off-putting.
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I was expecting: stuff to blow up, and a fun score. I wasn't disappointed in either respect, and have really enjoyed feasting on this new JW score after being without one for so long. I'd like to go see it in the theatre again before that opportunity is gone because it was fun - not anything groundbreaking, or particularly meaningful, but fun! And where else do you get to hear great music at such volumes?
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By the way, anyone else noticed the "Gaudeamus Igitur" theme interpolated in track 8 "A Whirl Through Academe"?
Someone else mentioned this too...I picked up on something that sounded like it was a quote of something, but not anything I'd heard before. Appropriately "academic" sounding - what's the piece from?
I gave up on reading the whole thread to see if anyone has answered this - I know John Takis addressed this in his chronological score thing on the front page - but he's either quoting Gaudeamus Igitur or quoting Johannes Brahms' Academic Festival Overture, a piece Brahms wrote to thank a university which gave him an honorary doctorate. He was just going to send a thank-you note, but discovered that they really required him to write a piece, so he strung together a bunch of familiar drinking songs in a very witty, well-orchestrated manner. Gaudeamus igitur closes the work, and it's really a fun overture. I didn't catch the quote in the film, but I recognized it immediately when I was listening to the soundtrack at 2AM. Brahms sticking out his tongue at the university, and Indy doing the same thing.
I wonder if Spielberg and Lucas recognized it or if he had to explain the joke to them?
Maybe a spoiler? Someone I know was wondering if the Skull theme was some sort of retrograde or inversion on the CE3K theme, which would be really funny, but I don't think it is. Has anybody been able to work out a connection?
Now I need to listen to the soundtrack a lot more and see the film again so I know what's missing on the CD!
Not sure I've listened enough to rate this in the overall spectrum of Williams' work, but watching the film was all kinds of fun. Probably not a spoiler, but what the heck: The whole thing is kind of summed up by Mutt asking "What is he going to do next?" Marian responds "I don't think he plans that far ahead" and Indy immediately pokes his head out with a rocket launcher. That, to me, is what Indiana Jones is all about.
As I listened to Raiders again in preparation, I noticed the stylistic similarities to ANH. In KOTC, I hear stylistic similarities to ROTS (especially the Russian motif) and COS. I'm not going to launch into the plagiarism debate, but I kind of enjoy watching him define and re-define his style.
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I highly doubt John Williams would remember you the second time around. Just get another CD signed. He's not gonna be like "Not this kid again, get outta here, I already signed your damn CD!"
Probably true, as all three times I've seen in him concert, I've had the extremely good fortune to have gotten an autograph and picture. There was definitely no recollection on his part, obviously - he must meet hundreds of fans every year.
I've had the same (fantastic) experience. Just can't pass up an opportunity to talk to him - you never know if you'll have such a chance again.
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Definitely not going to even LOOK at the soundtrack first. I'll buy it on the way home. Although, I did accidentally see the track list on the main Indy page the other day - ack!
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I couldn't make it on yesterday - dang! Is there a link to the JWMG page somewhere? I can't believe I missed it!
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Finale 2001, I guess because I memorized all the keyboard shortcuts and everything was super-fast. But when I upgraded to 2007 & 2008 I got all the Garritan sounds, so maybe that's my favorite?
Oh, wait. The other kind of finale.
Being a horn player, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the finale of Beethoven 7. There's a great story about a horn player getting out of a speeding ticket because he was listening to Beethoven 7 and was so excited that he was driving too fast. The officer listened to some of it and let him go!
I definitely agree about the end of Phantom. It's amazing. And the end of Les Mis is fantastic too!
Another one that no one's mentioned is the end of the 2nd movement of Brahms 2nd symphony. Hear it live if you can, and with string bass players who have the extension on their low string so they get the low C. The whole thing is in E, but there's a C major chord near the end that's absolutely heart-wrenching. I think it might be the only C major in the whole movement, and when the basses can go down to that C (instead of up the octave) you can literally feel the sound.
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Indeed, it does contain all 12 notes of the chromatic scale, but by the true definition of 12-tone music, it does not qualify as such.
You're right. I was thinking this too, but you beat me to it!
And..... for the theory geeks, just for the sake of discussion, can you really call this tonal? It's been a number of years since my theory courses in college. It seems there are too many borrowed or altered chords - which is typical Williams, and wonderful, and it sounds tonal because the melody is fantastic, but what's the limit for the number of borrowed chords before you determine that something modulated, or isn't tonal anymore? When you try to write this out, there are accidentals all over the place, which is usually the signal that you've modulated.
Here's the normal progression for things in the key of e minor - chords you can create with the scale degrees of the natural minor scale (e f# g a b c d e). I listed the V in case you do harmonic minor, in which case you get the d# which makes for a major V chord.
i iio III iv v(V) VI VII
e f#o G a b(B) C D
In this theme, after a lot of i-i-i-i-i, we have an open fourth, Bb-Eb - what do you even call that? Then a iii, v of V, iv, II, and back to i. So the only chords that are really in the tonality of e minor are the e minor (i) and the a minor (iv). So..... do you call this tonal? It does start and end with the same chord, and you don't really "feel" like it's gone atonal or too far away when you listen.
Or maybe I'm way off?
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Do NOT miss the chance to hear Bill VerMeulen performing this concerto!
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I love it! The "Indiana's Avenue" is my favorite - I don't remember much of anything else on the Monopoly board, but I did remember that Indiana was red and thought it was very clever.
I was also wondering why POA didn't get to be mentioned.... makes sense now since it wasn't out in 2003!
AND - I agree with putting Hook in "Masterpiece Theatre," thank you very much.
I love Hook! Well, maybe Geisha is more appropriate there now, I guess.....I'd put Nixon in the "historical works" - it seems a natural with JFK and Born on the Fourth.
I really like this one: “You are caught stalking John Williams - Go to Jail (Do not pass Go, etc.)”
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All my current favorites (not necessarily in order):
Jane Eyre
ROTS
Winter Games Fanfare
JFK
We'll probably finish the day with the Utah SW Compilation CD.
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Score - The Incredibles. Definitely. Absolutely no contest. I saw a late showing in the theatre and had to find a Wal-Mart to have the soundtrack immediately afterward!
I see nobody voted for Monsters, Inc. - that might be a 2nd choice for me. I'm surprised no one voted for it because I really enjoyed that score too! It is fairly Randy Newmanish, but it's very memorable and very listenable outside the film.
Film - I could vote for any of them except Cars. It's a 7-way tie.
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Anakin's Dark Deeds from Revenge of the Sith. I hadn't heard the soundtrack before I saw it, and I was FLOORED in the theatre.
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I have always associated each note/pitch with a colour.
Do you have perfect pitch?
Yes.
How long have you had perfect pitch? (i.e., does it go back as far as you can remember or did you develop it through some sort of course?) I know you can buy a course that purports to teach perfect pitch through a color association method - I'm just curious if it really works.
Interestingly, I have it also, but I have never associated any images or colors or anything with sounds. Certainly some things sound "warmer" or "brighter" or "fuzzier" than others, but that's an issue of orchestration, instrumentation, performance, etc. If I thought hard enough about it, that would lead to a logical correlation between "warm" sounds and "warm" colors.
But I've always heard that for some people, there's an involuntary association of certain specific notes to colors - every time they hear an A, they always see red or something.
Very interesting thread! Who said it was like Fantasia? That's the first thing I thought of too - that part in the original film where they make a line represent different parts of the orchestra.
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344. His favorite instrument is the horn.
(Yes, French horn).
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349. His favorite key is D Major.
348. He once owned a house in Telluride, CO.
347. He does not have perfect pitch.
Have those been said already?
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Hey, Henry - the original London recording of Les Mis is great! Good purchase! Roger Allum (Javert) is just amazing.
I got Images and Monsignor for Christmas and haven't had any time to listen to them yet! It's driving me crazy.
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Definitely the same medley as the 2002 Oscars, except it had film clips to go along with it. (Did the oscars have the film clips too?) But he looks good, and healthy, and really appeared to be enjoying himself. He had some really fun facial expressions while he was conducting too!
Williams to compose new piece for Obama's Inaugural Ceremony (the Air And Simple Gifts thread)
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We were streaming it here at work and it only came through intermittently - a couple bars at a time. It didn't stream smoothly until 2/3 of the way through the speech. Dang!