hoby12
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Worst line is easy:
AOTC
"I truely, deeply love you......"
its a good thing she is so damn hot ...cuz I don't even care..but the screenwriter should be shot for that one
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Animal
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Yankee Baseball - unbeatable!!!! There is only one Jeter.......but if he messes up their is also matsui, williams, Arod, and shef.
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Long hair rocks ....
from one who has long hair
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The yanks are so succesful because of they are a great package.
Brian Cashman the GM is the best in sports and Joe Torre is the best manager in sports.
Peeps like Jeter and Rivera and Posada came up through the farm system - add people like Bernie and you get a good deal of people who have been on the team for ten years or more. That is pretty rare in modern sports. Plus how can you blame them for spending money? When you win you get more fans and more money. And they have been winning alot! And Yankee Stadium is one of the most famous stadiums in the world. Its the complete package.
St Louis Looks good though! Should be a good world series between them. But there is only one Jeter.......one Jeter to rule them all......
And if you have any doubt who I root for look to your left.
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Does anyone know if Lucas is shooting DV again like AOTC? Having not to deal with film really cuts down a composers allready bad time schedule. I hope that JW doesn't become too stressed out from these time schedules now that he is getting on in the years and could use some extra time.
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I don't think that big band is any different than jazz. Big Band IS jazz, as is fusion, dixie, etc etc. jazz is the wider genre. just like there is pop music: and everything underneath it.
Yeh I guess that is true, it is almost impossible to categorize music accurately. But I think you will agree with my main point which is you can only know jazz by listening to it - the same goes for all improvisatory styles of music. I guess when I heard BIG BAND in the title I thought it meant the genre of music written for big band (including post 40s) and not the specific time period called the big band era.
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I wonder if he will have a public funeral. Where did he live anyway?
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Hmm big band tunes are pretty different from jazz - i guess i did off topic this topic.
I think some of the best early big band tunes are:
Ellington = Black and Tan Fantasy
= In A Mellow Tone
= Take the A Train
= Mood Indigo
or basically anything by the man
Basie = Stop Beatin
= One O Clock Jump
Its really a shame that Jazz seems to be decreasing in popularity so much over the last 20 years. The american voice which was once jazz is now turning more into pop. Its a shame that todays greatest Jazz artists can just barely make a living doing it full time.
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i guess that is a metaphor which really means - you can know about jazz through text books but you can really know jazz only buy playing it, or writing it, or being around it, listening to it. And I think it was miles who said the quote.
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I think at this point having been musically trained and all I listen differently from the amateur listener - I don't think that is even a good thing. I know that I cannot really like a piece untill I understand it, untill I could sit down and have a ballpark to begin transcribing it.
for example when i listen to buckbeats flight I hear:
Roto Toms and Timpani Duet - i imediately think that those timpani are doubled up in other words he is probably using more than one mid range timpani and not using a piccolo timpani - which is unusaual but not for him - which goes into a string sustain with bassoon vs clarinets stacatto - which cresendos into a short rising horn fanfare (to make the string melody seem fresh) which goes into a 3/2 feel soaring string meledy. After studying JW I assume strings in octaves - I assume V1, V2, VA and half the VC are on the tune - the other half VC are playing the bass line with the CB. I hear that the horns are playing a very high pad up to their high G# which i think is pretty rare - and then I remember that he has the best players on earth all the time - and that most hornists would squeek that one. I hear the winds laying down block chords in 8th notes getting higher and louder. I know the bones and tuba are laying down the most powerful pad possible not going above middle c. I realize that this is the exact thing he did in ET but now its a new tune and in minor. etc.....
I cannot even remember what it was like listening before I knew what was going on. I am pretty sure that it was much better then what I am stuck with now, much more magical and all.
What has my those damn classical music teachers done to me!??
either way thats a hell of a cue right?? he really nailed that one - i hope he wins oscar. such a simple and powerful tune!!!!
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Actually the yankees have strong mid relief and closing is the best in the game - it was Moose that let up the 6 runs - and starting pitching which is the problem that plagues the yankees. Some game though - should be a great rest of the series - both teams are just sooo goood - the best rivalry in sports. and acutally yankees are the dog for this series according to the paper. PS I was born/raised in NY and have always had three teams I root for:
NYY, NYR, NYG - i dont watch basketball much anymore - but was at the giants game when the beat the vikings 42-0 to go to the superbowl.
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Like why is it that especially in classical music a piece will seem much better after you have heard it 20 times and know whats coming next? That happened to me with the Elgar Enigma Variations - first 3 times I heard it (because I had to) I thought it was so borring then I started playing it more and more and appreciating it and it turns out to be one of my favorites - when at one time it put me to sleep. Yet the first time I heard the Brahms 3rd violin sonata i instantly appreciated it - yet not as much as the engima after I listened to it for a bunch of times. I don't get it - always wondered if I like classical music because I know about it - and don't like country because I do not know about it and just think it sucks because of my ignorance. Or rather do I not like country because the few times I heard it it didn't register anything in my brain and I did not want to repeat listen to it or explore it any further.
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I always wonder if things I listen to repeatedly are better because I hear them more or because I like them more and want to hear them more often. That almost sounds the same but when you get a new CD the first listening pass usually involves some sort of sorting out to what you want to listen again. What track goes on first the next time you are in your car and what track is skipped. With music people like knowing whats coming next in some kind of weird way - thats why you might not like a song till the 10th time you hear it. Does that mean the song is better at that point? Same thing with long periods of time - if JW wrote HPPOA 30 years ago - note for note - would that make it better to our minds because we grew up listening to it? Can our brains only have so many favorites? If Star Wars was never written would people like Jaws even more? If i have a favorite track on a given cd and I listen to that over and over till I get sick of it and then I discover that I like the track 8 tracks later and then listen to that over and over till I get sick of it - and then come back in a year and listen to both of them will I decide that i like this track better than the other for some reason - does that have anything to do with how good the music is or rather how many times I listened to it?? Can I actually stop liking a track because I listened to it too much? Like the star wars main title is sick and all but i have heard it 10,000 times and can't bear to listen to it anymore - yet at one point i remember playing it over and over. Does anyone know what I mean?
come on out philosiphy majors and stoners and help me out..........
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hmm now that I think of it.....
midgets in fur suits throwing spears at heavilly armored soldiers twice their size with blaster rifles and armor support?
once again thats wood vs lazers............
but then again - I bet Lucas sold alot of Ewok costumes for halloween that fall....
i guess it doesn't bother me that much - during the forest battle i am pretty much consumed by the brilliant score at that point....
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Wait are you talking lame ass 40s stuffYeah, you are right, that "lame ass 40s stuff" is only the music that created a brand new genre of music never before heard on planet Earth.... :roll: Putz!
Hmmmmm off your off by a couple of years. Go watch Ken Burns Jazz. Jazz has been around for 30 years prior - the blues scale has roots back 40 years earlier than that. Jazz has always been an intimate small art before a big art. Groups playing in the early New Orlean's era were usually very small combos in order to fit into the small stage on the club. So it seems that big band evolved from the combo - not the other way around. Most people who actually know jazz consider jazz to be an intimate art. To prove this go to any cd store and look through the jazz section. I GUARANTEE you that you will find 9 combo/solo Cd's for every 1 big band cd. The ratio is most likely even much greater than that. Ever wonder why the big band era died? Because people thought it was CHEEZY when they heard Elvis and the Beatles. What survived was the combos which adapted and progressed into new art forms. Miles Davis and Charlie Parker and Bill Evans and John Coltraine and Chet Baker and Monk and McCoy and Peterson and Cannonball and Horace and Mingus and Brown and Clifford and Buddy and Heath and Shorter and Carter and Getz and Gillepse and Hinton and the list goes on and on.......
These are the names of jazz. For every one big band chart I can name you 20 combo charts. The art form in its purist form is quite simple, unpredictable and small.
So if you consider the only form of jazz to be big band music you are mistaken. All serious jazzers know that the art of making jazz special is through improvisation and communication. Ever wonder why jazzers can memorize 200 tunes? Because they are so simple!! Listen to So What? hmm two chord change and 1 riff on bass and 1 on piano. Jazz is about time and improvisation - heads are just there to set up the tune and the changes. Jazz isn't about things written on the page - thats not why people go to see jazz or play jazz. All those benny goodman charts are written down in full score and involve no thinking in the playing. The Duke or Basie Charts are masterpieces and feature alot of improvisation and specialized playing by the members - and were usually written to feature soloists in the band. They are on a different level from "in the nude" or "Stompin at the Savoy" - those pieces arent jazz they are jazz lite. They just happen to have the same name - much like how Monteverdi and Lutoswalksi are both called classical music though they are TOTALLY different in every respect.
So today good luck finding a big band outside a university - i think there are only 3 major groups touring now. But go to any jazz club and you know you are going to find a smoking ass combo laying down simple charts and then soloing and jamming on them.
jazz isn't learn in text books its learned in bars - as some famous guy once said
but having said all that ---- i agree sing sang sung (swing swing swing) is still to this day pretty cool yet still cheezy.
I guess things can be lame but cool. I appreciate it on a different level from Clifford Brown though. once again sorry for BAD SPELLLING - i hate spelllling
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PM me if anyone wants this..... the score is avialable to through some publisher
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Thats in the same spirit as classical music critics saying the Mozart 40 or Beethoven Pathetique are trite pieces. They still are really fine though many amateurs also appreciate them. It seems when people reach a certain familarity with the subject they suddenly become too good to listen to the pieces that amateurs also like.
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Hmmm the art has progressed well beyond the 40s. Some of us do listen to and appreciate other stuff.
One of the greatest big band charts ever is on:
the Charlie Mingus Big Band Cd Gunslinging Birds
the track is fables of fabous
listen to that and you will here how lame the 40s stuff is.
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I speak I speak for all New Yorkers when I say....
The Red Who?
- should be a great series though!!! I wish I was there!!
who won the last 7 ALCS against the sox?? hmmm
GO YANKS!!
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Wait are you talking lame ass 40s stuff or hip more modern stuff?
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All serious big band composers respect one name above all others.....
Thad Jones
anything by this man is a masterpiece
i like how everything on this board turns into an argument after about 4 posts.
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Is there a music feature on the Star Wars DVDs?
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Was the death related to his paralysis? Its such a young age for one to die who was so fit in earlier years.
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or maybe it is a perverted metaphor for a scene in the next film that i am sure lucas will not show ......
actually I have never been to sure on that....do jedi's use protection?
well...I guess obviously not or else we would never have the original trilogy. I am sure the movies would have been quite bad if the kids weren't in them.