Ray Barnsbury
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- Krull
- The Land Before Time
- Flight Demonstration Music
- Willow
- The Rocketeer
- Star Trek II
- Once Upon a Forest
- Cocoon
- The Journey of Natty Gann
- Glory
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Heartbreaking news, and more deeply affecting than I might have thought. You kind of prepare yourself for this with someone of Williams' age, but I never considered what it would be like to mourn the loss of James Horner. He had become one of my top two or three absolute favorites, particularly over the last five years or so. Even in his most routine scores, there was always something to enjoy. And at best, he soared to heights few could match. I'm just grateful there are still a good number of his works I have yet to discover.
Listening to some of his many great pieces today has been a comfort, as has reading the words in this thread.
Rest in peace, Mr. Horner, and thank you.
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What sad news. I have a fair amount of his recordings, and was always impressed by how great his re-recordings and arrangements were. Rest in peace.
The Prince of Egypt - "When You Believe," Erich Kunzel and the Cincinatti Pops -
Yeah, that new poster is crazy awesome. Here's a larger version of it, with what seems to be an accurate lineup (spoiler alert, I guess):
Faraday, Boone, Miles, Michael, Ana Lucia, Charlotte, Shannon, Desmond, Eko, Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Locke, Ben, Sayid, Libby, Sun, Jin, Claire, Hurley, Juliet, Charlie, Frank, Richard, Bernard and Rose
Pretty exciting!
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Sorry to bump this after a few days - just wanted to thank everyone for their kind wishes, and Alan for continuing to dredge this thing up year after year.
Happy birthday to my tireless and dedicated Vice President!Now maybe he can explain why he's spending so little time here ever since I signed off on the HDTV, Blu-Ray, and satellite TV hookup for his secure, undisclosed location.
Top-secret Vice Presidential espionage, of course!
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I can see this being as frustrating as trying to decipher Conchord's Indiana Jones press releases...
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Wow...fantastic news! Seems credible coming from Heyman, moreso than Williams' diplomatic non-answer from last year. Hopes cautiously up!
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5, 5, E.T.
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This is awesome, hah:
I'm looking forward to the score; to be honest, I hope it's more Up than Star Trek in terms of inspiration. And speaking of Up, it's really grown on me. I think it has an elegance and grace to it that you don't get very often in film scores these days. The waltzy main theme is lovely.
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5, 3, Hook.
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Score: 3.5 - pretty good, but not at all on the level of the originals
Film: 2.5 - not very good
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Forgive me for not being able to recall the entire quote, but I was always fond of the one when John Williams said something along the lines of "So much is forgotten, even by ourselves". I feel terrible for "butchering" that quote, it really is a good one.
Here's the whole thing:
"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories."
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Okay, I thought of something MASSIVELY wrong with "The Incident." All of the Losties in '77 knew that Daniel went with Jack and Kate. Now he's mysteriously not with them anymore...and no one talks about it. Sawyer or Juliet or someone should have asked where he was, or Jack or Kate should have said that he was dead from the get-go. It's quite an important bit of information!
Yeah, that's one thing I have a problem with sometimes. Characters on the show often don't seem to care about someone who's died. Pretty much no one except Hurley and Claire reacted at all to Charlie's death (and Claire seemed to get over it really quickly), Shannon shacked up with Sayid a few days after Boone died, no one who wasn't there when Eko died ever asked about him, from what I recall, etc. I guess you could just assume that we just didn't see those reactions, sort of like how all of a sudden, after no mention of Rose and Bernard since the beginning of the season, they talk in the finale about having searched for them for months. But it is a little irksome at times.
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Bravo, Mark. It's nice to experience the joy of discovering film music through the eyes of someone who began in a much different time than many of us.
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I think the general concensus is in agreement with you that Star Trek, though solid, isn't as good as the Lost scores.
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Does Jacob's theme remind anyone else of the Ark theme from Raiders?
Yeah, I've been thinking that too. They both have a foreboding, almost religious feel, which I thought was quite a departure for Giacchino's Lost music. The whole finale was scored amazingly well, with one of my favorite moments being the opening scene. The music conveys right away that we're in for something special and far different than anything else on the show before. Great stuff - it's just too bad we have to wait probably a year for a CD release.
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Have the characters ever referenced specifically what the ash is for? It could be keeping something out as much as keeping something in.
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EDIT: Someone on MiceChat suggested it would be cool if Smokey/Non-Jacob/Locke/Man #2 were named Esau.
Yeah, my brother kind of jokingly suggested that after we watched the finale, but I think it's a strong theory. A lot of it fits, including the Egyptian connections, and the notion that Man #2/Esau is Jacob's "Bad Twin"...gasp!
All in all, the finale was one of the most exhilarating and head-spinning episodes ever...I loved it! And as frustrating as it is, I'm glad there are still SO many unanswered questions going into the final season (one of the most interesting being the identity and goals of Illana's group).
I'm prepared to be devastated if it turns out that Juliet's dead...it'd be as bad as Charlie's death in my book. Sayid dying would be awful too, but his character hasn't been as likeable recently.
And the black title on white at the very end was a stroke of genius, implying that everything has changed as we leave this penultimate season. I refuse to think about the 8 months left until the show's return.
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"Back to America." It's like a breath of fresh air, finally, after the melancholy (albeit good) hour of music that precedes it. One of my favorite Americana pieces by JW.
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Yes, The Rocketeer is definitey one of Horner's best. My other absolute favorites of his are Glory, The Land Before Time, and Krull. They all have great themes, action music, original end credit suites, and either minimal use of his trademarks, or as you said, the best executions of those ideas.
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Horner was one of my first discoveries as well, but I quickly realized I could do much better. As far as I'm concerned he did Star Treks II and III and Willow and that's the extent of my interest.
Would you be open to a few suggestions? IMO there are at least a few other "essential" Horner scores where the good outweighs his usual offenses.
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The OST is pretty thorough. You're not missing any themes or highlights, as far as I can recall.
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It's a 10. Definitely in my top few favorite scores. I was blown away the first time I listened to it after having purchased it. Although there are a few dull moments here and there, I find that the score's plethora of strengths vastly outweigh them. The themes are among Williams' best - the infectious jig music, the mystical Irish theme, the triumphant "Westward Ho!" theme (as Frank Lehman referred to it), and the amazing main theme. It can range from tender and romantic to sweeping and epic, and it's my favorite of Williams love themes. The thrilling "The Land Race" is the set piece of the score, and it all culminates in the wonderful end credits suite. It's one of the last times Williams wrote new arrangements for an end credits piece, and they're infused with such joyous energy and spirit (those horn rips!) It just never fails to put a smile on my face, and I feel it's Williams' best effort of the 90s.
So I'd give it a 5, I guess.
The movie gets a 3, nothing too remarkable.
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The Turbulent Years is a very good cue, everything after is Ambien in music form.
"Growing Up in Whittier" is another highlight for me. Has a unique atmosphere to it, at the same time nostalgic and unsettling.
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Really! Another Natty Gann fan? Good stuff.
If you haven't heard Flight Demonstration Music, you should check it out. It's like the ultimate Horner end credits suite.
For voting purposes, at least.