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Howard Shore's An Unexpected Journey (Hobbit Part 1)
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Thanks!- 4,548 replies
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tannhauser replied to Jay's topic in Tolkien Central
Could you post the link to your edit, I'd like to listen on my PC and for some reason jwfan is blocked on there.- 4,548 replies
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Howard Shore's The Desolation Of Smaug (Hobbit Part 2)
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Yes. -NotJim Hey NotJim, do you mean choral or solo vocal? ;-)- 7,481 replies
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Oh, is there a vocal in Beyond the Forest?- 7,481 replies
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Fabulous news. Ruin and Memory is a fantastic, beautiful work.
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Howard Shore's An Unexpected Journey (Hobbit Part 1)
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I don't know, maybe it's a variation of it, but it seems like it's its own thematic identity. Bilbo's Adventure is (in the same tonality) C D E G G B C G E G F On the album, this is played once or twice verbatim, but in the movie it seems to just have a few subtle quotes, usually revolving around those first two rising intervals of a major and minor third (E G . . . G B) The intervals are a bit different, and there's more decoration in this heroic variation, but I guess it's probably an extension the same idea. It's strange that the theme was removed from the film but the variations stayed.- 4,548 replies
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That theme in "Where's Bilbo" is what Shore2Shore over on Doug's blog was talking about- 4,548 replies
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It's a lovely theme though, and it's reading in a good omen is particularly brilliant. I wonder if it was meant to represent anything other than a sort of book-end device, or indeed if we will hear it again...- 4,548 replies
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It doesn't resemble bilbo's adventure either melodically or harmonically.- 4,548 replies
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The clarinet use for the Shire in LOTR is by no means exclusive to bilbo- 7,481 replies
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tannhauser replied to gkgyver's topic in Tolkien Central
I don't see why the Bilbo theme would ever make an appearance again, since it was obviously a completely unused concept, and the decision was made to completely replace that theme with the Shire theme (making the shire theme Bilbo's leitmotif for the story). To introduce a "new" theme for Bilbo in the second film would make no sense. Same goes for Radagast really. I think his motif will be limited to the four note Bbm6 rising arpeggio figure.- 7,481 replies
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I hope that we get to hear "Erebor" in DOS somewhere, and that it doesn't just turn out to be an abandoned idea.- 4,548 replies
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Wow, that syncopated choir in Smaug's attack (0.59) is really weird and different (and awesome!)- 4,548 replies
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Its the theme everyone calls the Dwarf Adventure theme. Right, I got confused and swapped Erebor with The Dwarf Lords in my head yea, the "Dwarf Adventure Theme" plays throughout "Erebor" and also appears at 0:41 of The World Is Ahead. It'd be cool if there was more unreleased variants of it! It's also subtly quoted in a good omen at about 3.25 and followed by a hint of the dwarf lords theme. Then there's that gorgeous string counterpoint which is almost reminiscent of breaking of the fellowship, which leads into the Erebor horn call. I mostly prefer the film version of the finale but that passage is beautiful.- 4,548 replies
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That is a new recording of History of the Ring, isn't it? Not tracked from LOTR?- 4,548 replies
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Howard Shore's The Desolation Of Smaug (Hobbit Part 2)
tannhauser replied to gkgyver's topic in Tolkien Central
The worst thing that could happen is that it starts playing over the final scene before the credits roll.- 7,481 replies
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That would be sad, but I can't say I'd be surprised if it happened.- 7,481 replies
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tannhauser replied to gkgyver's topic in Tolkien Central
On the ee appendices for Journey, Phillipa boyens said they didn't think they'd have a song at all first. Then they thought about a straight reprise of misty mountains, but it was too slow. Then they randomly heard Neil Finn on the radio or something and thought he could do it. So the fact that there's been no announcement this late in the game makes me wonder if there will be one. Or maybe they'll track Gollums song, and The Horse will plead with us that it never really had anything to do with Gollum but was a "Battle for Middle Earth is about to begin" theme- 7,481 replies
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Quite a lot of Shores music is minor (moded)- 7,481 replies
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Maybe there is no end credits song :0- 7,481 replies
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tannhauser replied to gkgyver's topic in Tolkien Central
I wasn't reassured by what Doug said, because what he said was obvious. I really cannot understand the concern and speculation of people on here. I have every confidence that this score will be sublime, as good if not better than the first installment, which to me was a masterpiece, both the early version as heard on album and the later version heard in the film. I'm also intrigued to see how they handle the release this time, both in content and quality. Hopefully a press release will be imminent from WT as well as the big reveal of the end credits singer!- 7,481 replies
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tannhauser replied to gkgyver's topic in Tolkien Central
That video just features the string septet and the piano concerto.- 7,481 replies
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tannhauser replied to gkgyver's topic in Tolkien Central
He wasn't present the day those photos were taken. And we know he had to go back to NY for a lecture. Bear in mind the sessions have been going on for some months. Shore was likely there for much of the scoring- 7,481 replies
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tannhauser replied to gkgyver's topic in Tolkien Central
It's like Doug said, smooth is good.AUJ was a mess in places due to late film changes. Maybe if Shore had more time to write the final score would have been smoother. So if this results in shore having more time to write and consequently a better score, I'm happy. The NZSO sounded just fine on FOTR. And remember, lots of different orchestras and conductors perform Shores work live to projection around the world and it sounds as incredible as ever. As far as what we can expect of the end product, there's literally nothing to worry about here folks, just much to be excited about.- 7,481 replies
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Bryn Terfel would be awesome- 7,481 replies
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