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I think both of our uses of sarcasm have somehow cancelled each other out.... haha!

Thanks... sarcasm is so unclear sometimes with only text to express it.

Each of the original trilogy was recorded separately. The prequels all use the same recording up to the departure point after the rolling plot synopsis setup. I still love the original, none of the others are quite as dynamic and edgy. RotJ comes close, but without that first explosion, it doesn't quite make it.

Steef drove him to suicide... :-(

Karelm, that was a fantastic story! What a treat to have so much semi-intimate time. What a gracious person, and story!

LOL!!

When John talks about scoring Tintin, he states that he had to write music without seeing anything, and that it was the first time he had ever done so. I'm not sure how loosely "first time" can be taken, but....

Nah....

Fly my pretties! FLYYY!!!

You guys need to stop cracking me up so much... I haven't laughed this hard in a while! I feel a cardiac arrest coming on! ROTFLMAO This appears to be my first encounter with alicebrallice since I'm so new... 'twas a good one.

Well, a cluster chord is mostly the dissonant sounds of notes that are much closer together than the usual sonorous intervals away. However, it is not necessarily that simple, because in clusters, one can also span the breadth of the range of notes to achieve this as well. For example, let's take an arbitrary B-C-D cluster. You can play them on the piano right next to each other, but you can also play a lower B, a middle C, and a higher D. It achieves a cluster, but not so closed and confined sounding... it becomes more open, but still dissonant. I find, too, that John Williams will use this technique with his more sonorous chords as well, to give them a more mysterious quality. Sometimes he will have C-E-G (major chord) but add another note that is very close to the others, like a C# or Eb or G#. This doesn't really constitute as a cluster chord, but it utilizes the technique of it in a very interesting way. Yes.... The interesting thing I find, is that John Williams seems to have ones that sound almost signature to him alone... That made me laugh out loud!

Righto... 1. E.T., The Extra-Terrestrial 2. Jurassic Park 3. Hook 4. Close Encounters of the Third Kind 5. Raiders of the Lost Ark 6. Star Wars 7. Superman: The Movie 8. The Empire Strikes Back 9. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets 10. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade That would be fun... Somehow, it almost seems that the tracks might be from scores other than our Top 10 favorites....

I actually haven't had the chance to listen to JFK completely, but I own both Lincoln and Nixon. I have to say that Lincoln takes it for me. Nixon is definitely interesting, but part of the opening cut on the OST resembles Duel of the Fates in harmony, even though I know the latter was created later. It's hard for me to not think of it.

The opening of this.... http://www.youtube.c...bed/CwvzKdJShW0 Especially that second chord....

Family Portrait... I could listen to those two chords all day...

John Williams is well-known for his creative use of cluster chords in his various scores, especially in the string section. What are some of your favorites? Some of mine are at the beginning of "Eye to Eye"...

So difficult... and from about 4 on down, constantly changing. 1. E.T., The Extra-Terrestrial 2. Jurassic Park 3. Hook 4. Close Encounters of the Third Kind 5. Raiders of the Lost Ark 6. Star Wars 7. Superman: The Movie 8. War Horse 9. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets 10. Schindler's List I know, pretty predictable and standard... perhaps except for the order. However, in the case where multiple movies from the same franchise were scored, I decided to pick only my favorite one, instead of including more than one.

That was great. I do love that John had something to say about what brings in the $$ when it comes to orchestras. Apparently the members of the orchestra thought they were above playing "Anything Goes" from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Serious classical musicians can be so snobby at times. Pops concerts do not give the orchestra members the right to be less professional, though. EDIT: Wait... I misspoke... haha! That's not Anything Goes... What is it!? EDIT 2: It's the Doodletown Fifers

Uni, thank you for your ability to reason well... I will report back when I have had a more recent and clear look at the film and its score. It has been a while, which is why I don't have any specifics. Trust me, they do exist, and I will present them when I have them clearly laid out. You guys are really going to make me go and make notes and everything aren't you?OK, sounds good to me. It may be a little while though.

First of all, I appreciate the edit of your own words because I read the original before you did so. Thank you for thinking twice about being a jerk. And honestly, if everything I have said makes no sense at all, then it should be very easily disproved by everyone here, WITH specifics, yet no one has provided any. Yes, I have agreed to read the Doug Adams book simply because I can find no one to truly enlighten me in a way that I'm looking for. I do love the music, but I want to have reason to love it more. Going on and on about how wonderful and sublime it is does not give me that reason, and is just as general as I have been accused of being. I say that Shore paints with large brushstrokes, you say he is specific and captures the intricacies. Neither of us provide specifics, though there clearly are plenty for both sides of this argument. I don't seek to downplay Shore's crowning achievement, I am merely looking for what I am not getting that everyone else seems to get. This reminds me very much of when I first heard "In C" by Terry Riley. Everyone was raving about how brilliant it was, and even in understanding how it worked, I just thought it was silly that people were raving so much over so little.

I suppose I may as well change the title of this thread to The Official wanner251 Taunt thread... but I suppose with the way I've been posting lately, I've probably earned it.

Who? Never heard of it....

Actually, lately, I have become very excited about the next Composers' Challenge. I really enjoyed your comments on the last one. Tell me, Incanus, do you compose? And if so, would you be interested in entering? Considering all of the many thoughtful things you have to say, I would be really interested in knowing what you had to contribute, whether you actually compose or not. There's always one....

I shall give that book a read. Remember, I always say I'm trying to be convinced. Perhaps Doug Adams can convince me, because no one here can. And also remember, I do actually like the music.

Does a forum called the John Williams Fan Network really need this? I'm starting to think so.