Wanderer22 0 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Now, the first thing someone's going to say is "Who the hell are you, newbie, to question us?"To which my retort will be:Who the hell are YOU to complain about a soundtrack that:A) 90+% of you haven't even heard a single cue fromB) 100% of you haven't seen the film in question. And anyone who believes a soundtrack can stand on it's own without the film it was written for, needs to be shot.Yes, I'm referring to the ROTS soundtrack. The film that's going to "suck", even though none of you have seen it.... The soundtrack that "sucks", even though most of you have never heard it.Let me ask a simple question:Why do you feel that you have a right to tell Williams what to do with his score? What gives you the all-powerful knowledge of how a movie should be, or how a soundtrack will be, when NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU has ANY clue what actually goes into ANY of it? There's one ONE person who has ANY right to complain about the music, and that's Lucas. For the simple reason that he's the one that paid Williams to create it. Who the hell are you to say otherwise? If you don't like it, DON'T BUY IT. Contrary to popular belief, it REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE. There is no reason whatsoever to sit here on these forums and complain and complain and complain and complain and complain and complain and complain and complain and complain and complain and complain. How long have you folks been complaining about this score? Seriously.... and how long will you continue to complain about it? Months.... You're all a bunch of hypocrites, I say. You complain endlessly about the film and the soundtrack, and yet you'll buy the soundtrack the instant it's released, you'll see the film a dozen times in theatres, and you'll buy the DVD as soon as it's in stores. And this is different from a fanboy.... how? And you'll probably complain the whole while, too... like they've really got a gun to your head forcing you to buy the stuff. Puleeze.My point is that this is the "John Williams FAN Network" And you people aren't fans. Might as well go find the "John Williams MUST DIE" forum and post there to your heart's content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 angry, angry young man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 B) 100% of you haven't seen the film in question. And anyone who believes a soundtrack can stand on it's own without the film it was written for, needs to be shot.Welcome to the MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 The problem with setting up a message board as a FAN network for a particular composer rather than for film scores in general means that there's always going to be this confusion between whether people are meant to voice anything other than blind faith and enthusiams for anything the composer does. And it leads to nonsense like this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Indeed.I for one am not planning to slavishly drool over every note John Williams has composed.Wanderer22 should just wander right on to another place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Tosser.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Wanker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarieMJS 0 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Hello nice newbie! Well, there is a topic somewhere when you can listen to 4 tracks of the new score, I didnt say anything till the tracks were available, I listened to them carefully, and I posted my reviews after that.Im just an humble fan, Ive read speculations about the music, try to find news about it and now that we have a bit of it, I think I have the right to post what I think about it...And you, are you an humble fan? After all, who are you to post this kind of message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 B) 100% of you haven't seen the film in question. And anyone who believes a soundtrack can stand on it's own without the film it was written for, needs to be shot.Beaten up and sent to prison sure...but shot?? I don't think I would feel comfortable shooting someone for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Hello nice newbie! Well, there is a topic somewhere when you can listen to 4 tracks of the new score, I didnt say anything till the tracks were available, I listened to them carefully, and I posted my reviews after that.Im just an humble fan, Ive read speculations about the music, try to find news about it and now that we have a bit of it, I think I have the right to post what I think about it...And you, are you an humble fan? After all, who are you to post this kind of message? Hmmmm - don't think we've met......but I like your style! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Nice, very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Thank you, Master.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer22 0 Posted April 9, 2005 Author Share Posted April 9, 2005 While I do consider myself to be a fan of JW, I don't have any need to fawn over every note.. but at the same time, I also don't feel the need to go completely nuts when I don't like the music. As many people here do. It's one thing to not like the music in question.. it's completely different to start these holy crusades about it.I think a lot of it has to do with what this score is for... This is little different than the "Lucas-bashing" that goes on on many message boards. You don't like the films. That's all it is. And since this is a JW message board, you complain about the score as well as the film. And yet, as I said, you'll all go see the film, and you'll all go buy the soundtrack and the DVD. As I said... hypocrisy at it's finest. Oh, sure, you'll say "I'll never see or buy this tripe", but you know as well as I that there's no way we can prove whether you do or don't. And many of you who say this will see/buy it anyway. I've seen it happen time and time again. This is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 First of all.I do not think anyone has outright dismissed this score based on what's out there so far.Secondly, I have not heard anyone saying he or she will not be buying the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I don't think I will see this film a dozen times in the theatre. In fact, I know I won't! I will go see it, but only once, because I've made a promise to someone, a promise I cannot refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 While I do consider myself to be a fan of JW, I don't have any need to fawn over every note.. but at the same time, I also don't feel the need to go completely nuts when I don't like the music. As many people here do. It's one thing to not like the music in question.. it's completely different to start these holy crusades about it.I think a lot of it has to do with what this score is for... This is little different than the "Lucas-bashing" that goes on on many message boards. You don't like the films. That's all it is. And since this is a JW message board, you complain about the score as well as the film. And yet, as I said, you'll all go see the film, and you'll all go buy the soundtrack and the DVD. As I said... hypocrisy at it's finest. Oh, sure, you'll say "I'll never see or buy this tripe", but you know as well as I that there's no way we can prove whether you do or don't. And many of you who say this will see/buy it anyway. I've seen it happen time and time again. This is no different.Well - maybe when you have a bit more of a browse and find that there's a lot more to this than you seem to realise, and find that not everyone here thinks the same, you might decide to go back and crawl back under that stone from whence you came...now please go find another board to anoy people. Thank you.Greg - who finds Wanderer22 to be a bit lacking/condescending/wrong (*delete as applicable) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 You're all a bunch of hypocrites...My point is that this is the "John Williams FAN Network" And you people aren't fans.Thanks for the constructive thoughts. Please familiarize yourself with the rules before wasting our time with your nonsense.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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