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  1. MTRougeau
    .....Also BOTFA is da bomb!!!
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    That's easy: The Banner Saga and Destiny. http://youtu.be/yRAn8_VGM28 http://youtu.be/XB9ZLvGi16c As brilliant as Shore is, he just isn't capable of writing march-like action music as heard in the second cue. The mean trumpets which come in shortly after the 2min mark are my kind of Goldsmithan shit. I like instrumentation which is full bodied and precise, I like plenty of character in the aesthetic, a sense of personality. In the latest Hobbit movie I only heard symphonic ambience and that doesn't stand out to me. I can't recall a single decent cue or musical set-piece. LotR by contrast was an endless well of them. I think Shore gradually lost interest. Don't mean to derail the thread further, but IMO the best VG score of the year belongs to Civilization: Beyond Earth, hands down. Absolutely brilliant melodies and harmonies.
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    [–]CerebralCortexan[] 0 points 11 minutes ago Is there any truth to the rumours that you were physically ejected from Wellington Town Hall and had your baton torn from your grasp by Sir Conrad of Pope when you refused to do reprise the Revelation of the Ringwraiths for Thorin vs Azog II in BOTFA? permalinksavereportgive goldREPLY [–]Howard_Shore[S] 1 point a minute ago No truth to it. Hahah! BAAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!
  4. MTRougeau
    Let's hope he answers it, because I'd be very much interested in the answer! I would too, but I don't think he'll touch that question with a 39 and a half foot pole...... However, I hope he answers my other question about not conducting/not using the LPO for the last 2 films....
  5. MTRougeau
    Insightful! I don't buy it! If he answers to this question, this should be interesting: Or even better: If enough of us like those posts, they`ll grab his attention! That last question was mine.
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    Has anyone noticed the strange musical distortion that can be heard in the strings at about 35 seconds into A Liar and A Thief? The strings are bright and clear for the first 30 seconds of the track, and then suddenly they get very muddy and distorted, almost like going from stereo sound to mono. Perhaps it has something to do with the mixing? It is easily heard again around the 50 second mark. Other sections of the orchestra sound clear, but that entire tremolo string phrase remains muddied. It then clears up and sounds normal again at the 1:52 mark. Am I crazy?
  7. MTRougeau
    I have to agree. I can't remember where I read it, but around the time of the Kong situation, it was suggested that parts of Shore's score were very much a homage to the old Kong scores, sort of like a "period piece", while Jackson wanted something very Lord of the Ring-ish, very contemporary and modern. Shore's decision to score it like it was the 1930's was too "artsy". Wish I could find where I read this. If only Doug could talk more about the score....
  8. MTRougeau
    Well, one might say that should be a good pointer why it is no great music, but let's leave it at that... Well, we might also use that logic with Mozart, Goldsmith, Beethoven, Williams, etc., but lets leave it at that... Yeah but they don't exactly top the music charts either. People can't dance to those (easily). A valid comparison here is Conrad Pope's influence on The Matrix Reloaded. I'm actually not very familiar with the circumstances surrounding that, I'd love to hear about it though! Conrad Pope orchestrated both Reloaded and Revolutions. Did you notice that change? Interesting that Pope said the score was very much complete, just like Williams' or Goldsmith's, so there was not much to do. That's what he said. Are you referring to DOS being very much complete or the scores to the Matrix sequels? If you're talking about DOS, could you provide me with that quote from Pope? I'm interested to read it.
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    It does to me too. AUJ is as far removed from a LOTR score as you can be in PJ's framework. Everything from this point on will move closer to it. Why is that? Dry sound from recording at Abbey Road? He meant the writing, not the recording techniques. Ah I see. I'd be interested to hear in what ways you feel the writing was different? I thought it was very much in line with what had come before it.....to me, TTT seems to be the most "out of place" Middle-Earth score, not AUJ.
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    Interesting. And TTT was as wet as could be, to my ears. I'll need to listen to the samples again when I get home from work.
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    It does to me too. AUJ is as far removed from a LOTR score as you can be in PJ's framework. Everything from this point on will move closer to it. Why is that? Dry sound from recording at Abbey Road?
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    I will make an exception for 2 cues: The Forest River and My Armor is Iron. Those 2 "action" cues match the openness of the previous scores more closely than anything else in these samples. But somehow, even the quieter dialogue moments of the LOTR scores sound more open than what I'm hearing here. Many of the smaller moments here remind me of the recording of "The Silence of the Lambs". Great Shore score, but a VASTLY different recording process than LOTR. Well, for one thing, as Conrad Pope said the NZSO could use some older instruments in their strings to get a better sound; that's likely the biggest difference as far as the orchestra goes: the age/quality of the instruments being used. But really I think most of the perceived difference is just a matter of the material we're hearing. When you get the blistering brass clusters and aleatoric seething, you'll know you're home. Hehe, I sure hope so!
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    I will make an exception for 2 cues: The Forest River and My Armor is Iron. Those 2 "action" cues match the openness of the previous scores more closely than anything else in these samples. But somehow, even the quieter dialogue moments of the LOTR scores sound more open than what I'm hearing here. Many of the smaller moments here remind me of the recording of "The Silence of the Lambs". Great Shore score, but a VASTLY different recording process than LOTR.
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    Earlier on this thread the AUJ score was described as feeling 'closer' and less 'archaic' than the LOTR score, which I thought was a very good description…and again, judging by the super low quality :30 DOS clips, I am feeling that it may be even less 'archaic' and more processed than AUJ. Am I crazy? It sounded very different to me, even further than AUJ. No doubt that the composition is Shore's, that is extremely apparent, but the quality of the recording and atmosphere feels so much 'lighter' and 'closer'... In my very limited musical vocabulary and ability to convey what I am thinking, if I could describe LOTR as having a 100 person orchestra, AUJ felt like maybe a 70 person orchestra, and DOS feels like 50. It's probably just that none of these samples feature the music really "opening up" with the full ensemble. I hope so! After listening to the higher quality samples on WaterTower's website, I must agree with the sentiment that the orchestra doesn't sound as "large" or "open" as it does in the LOTR scores or even AUJ. Whether that is because of the differences in orchestration by Conrad Pope, or the difference in the orchestra itself, or perhaps a different mic setup (I know Doug said great care was taken to match the LOTR setup and sound during the AUJ recording process), or whatever it may be, but there is a difference. That's not necessarily a BAD thing, unless one is looking for continuity in the sound of the scores, which unfortunately, I am. Still, I'm looking forward to hearing the full soundtrack on CD and in context of the film, and I'm hopeful that the sound will grow on me.
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    I DO hear a little of what Doug was talking about concerning the change in orchestras being apparent to discerning ears, though to be fair, the quality of the stream isn't the best, so I will withhold full judgement until I can hear the score properly.
  16. MTRougeau
    anyone "hear"....Freudian slip??
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    There's a good minute and 15 seconds of I See Fire being previewed....it honestly doesn't sound bad. A little more "modern" than the LOTR songs, but much better than Song of the Lonely Mountain, imho.\ EDIT: Here's a link to the full song: http://www.alterthepress.com/2013/11/ed-sheeran-releases-new-song-i-see-fire.html
  18. MTRougeau
    That's one lonely track right there. Special edition will be more special than anticipated. This isn't very lonely.....https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/i-see-fire/id735323287?i=735323715
  19. MTRougeau
    Doug has said nothing at all regarding Hobbit Complete Recordings because he knows this isn't even up for discussion yet, and won't be for a long time. Are the LOTR CR's profitable? They don't get printed very often, and the profitability of those sets will likely have a big impact on whether or not Hobbit CR's ever get made.
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