Sandor

I have a strong feeling they're going to pull a 'Batman Forever' on this one, instead of a 'Jurassic Park III' or 'Superman II'. If you know what I mean.

Wow! I have to agree with Neil 100% on this! Although I like the poster, this is an edited version of Struzan's painting. We can imagine what the original must be like!

Clint is a very cool guy, but I don't know if he deserved it for THIS film. It would be the same as Spielberg winning for A.I. Spielberg is also a very cool guy, but there a certain films that should not win. Million Dollar Baby is like that, although superior to the mentioned A.I., it was no Aviator.

I really wanted Williams to win, but I was always scared of that funny name among the nominees; they tend to win. Anyway; don't lose hope guys! John Williams could score another 10 years. He'll get another shot; perhaps even next year. Maybe Memoirs of a Geisha will be a major Oscar contender. Who knows.

Hey! Were supposed the include WOMEN only! Not kiddies, ok!?

Some women are so beautiful that the mind of a normal man cannot fully comprehend it.

I wonder how long it will take before anyone mentions Laserdisc...

Some women are so beautiful that the mind of a normal man cannot fully comprehend it.

No way! Or are you just saying that because she played in one of those dreadful James Bond films?

What's your personal favorite? Mine: The Binary Sunset from A New Hope (obviousley) or The Final Duel from Return Of The Jedi. I've watched that scene countless times just to hear the music. I wonder if Episode III will have something to top these.

Since that whole 'sex-thread' sort of bombed, I wonder who you guys view as the most beautiful actress from a John Williams scored film. Mine: Zhang Ziyi, Memoirs Of A Geisha. The girl from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. She's stunning! or Natalie Portman, Star Wars prequels. Had to get used to her, but the pictures I've seen from Episode III with her on it are gorgeous! or Catherine Zeta-Jones, The Terminal. In that movie (especially after Traffic) she looked hotter than ever!

Hey, that's another fine way of looking at things!

Too bad I never heard that one...

This is one score that should not be listened to in it's entirely. The selections that made their way on the original album were actually quite representative all the musical ideas from the film. Jerry Goldsmith once stated on Dutch television no less, that he felt not every musical cue from a film should be released! That statement applies to Born On The Fourth Of July in every regard. However; in the film it does shine all the way!

I know my humor is seriously flawed and sometimes reaches the borders of utter sickness, but I started this thread trying to be sarcastic. I was amazed how many people were upset about the thread stating that Horner may have sold more copies than Williams. I thought: "So what! The Backstreet Boys have sold more albums than John Williams! What does that mean anyway?" I wasn't serious starting this one. Ok, it probably gets locked down now. So be it.

No, Chris. That one is extremely old and NOT the official one-sheet poster.

You obviousley don't know this score at all. It's easily one of my favorite scores of all time, because it has MULTIPLE great and emotional themes and they are used in brilliant fashion. One of the most classy scores in Williams' catalogue and definately THE most underrated score of his career. Am I the only one who sees it's greatness?

Yes, including his own work. I recently discovered a unique one: Harry Connick Jr. performing The Long Goodbye with the Boston Pops Orchestra. There is a bootleg-recording out there so if you ever have the chance: check it out! I don't know if Williams did the arrangment (but I assume for the time being). The orchestral parts are fantastic! This is becoming one of my favorite arranged songs OF ALL TIME! BRILLIANT!! Another one that comes to mind is Williams wonderful arrangment of Quincy Jones' The Color Purple as found on the Cinema Serenade album, a collaboration between Williams and violinist Itzhak Perlman. AMAZING STUF! Also his re-arranged theme from The Witches Of Eastwick for violin and piano. I've got the Gil Shaham album (Devil's Dance) and that piece simply ROCKS! Other suggestions?

I couldn't agree more, or, I couldn't agree morn!

Yeah, ok. But I can give you hundreds of examples where people do VOLUNTEER work and STILL have a professional attitude. For us it is not meaningless at all! I meant from a more wide perspective. Really? What did I miss? You have a point there Steef. But moderators are usually very active posters themselves. That happens all the time. Neil can post whatever he wants related to John Williams, film music and all. As a good moderator he HAS to join us. Argue, debate, fast and furious, I LIKE that! I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT! I only have a problem when things get so overly personal. Inclinations like: "Real men...", "I can't understand why a married man..." should have no place on this board. At least put a smiley then, so I know I should take it with a grain of salt. See 8O It's easy. See Just did it again! PS. Joe; sorry for f*cking up your thread! You can do it to me next time, ok?

??? If I swear in front of class and parents complain about my behavior how silly would it sound if I were to say: "Can I not be a man too?" Ok, not so good comparison I know. But people expect a certain attitude from a teacher and I expect a certain attitude from a moderator even if it's in the end all about something as meaningless as a messageboard on the internet. What Neill doesn't seem to understand is that I care NOTHING about post counts! When I brag about my 300 posts and all; gee that is just irony, man. I KNOW my post record is DWARFED compared to some here. I don't care, really. I'm just having fun with it. Closing a thread is to me always weird. I've seen this so many times on other boards: moderators, who in the REAL WORLD probably get ordered to scrape of poo-stains in public toilets with a tooth-brush (which they later have to use for actual toothbrushing!!) and thus have absolutely NO POWER in the real world all of a sudden become GODS on the internet to compensate for that. Closing threads for no real meaning just for the sake of closing threads: a show of POWER. Now, don't get me wrong: Neil is LIGHTYEARS away from those psychos! You do a good job Neil. But ofcourse this board is full of intelligent, kind and sociable persons who don't really complain about your questionable antics from time to time. In other words: keep up the good work! But, as a moderator I really think you should refrain from going one on one in a verbal "fight". It's not really appropriate.

Isn't that a little weird, guys?

Gee, relax man! You don't know me, ok? I'm not a moderator, but if I was I would refrain from becoming so personal and overly emotional. Get laid, jerk off or do something else to loosen up, because I'm getting a little irritated becoming your personal punch-bag.

I'm totally lost now. Could you explain that again? I'll write it down this time.