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LOVING the opening crawl! I'll let you know what I think once its finished

1. Jaws, but only just. Probably coz I prefer it as a film. 2. Raiders by 20 thousand miles. 3. Oh c'mon! 4. I'd say The Omen is more effective, if a little ott by todays standards. 5. Jurassic park. 6. Close Encounters.

I was waiting for your ugly mug to surface with a decisive and well informed remark.

Kameo, great example. And this: direct link removed Right click, Save Target As... If you like David Arnold, then this is right up your street.

Right, because he is better. I don't think more hummable = better. After all, Brokeback Mountain is very hummable. As are the Braveheart and Bicentennial Man themes

We're talking about game music performed by an actual orchestra, sometimes with a significant choir presence too. On the subject of symphonic style music which is ultimately synthesised, yes there has been some superb work done over the years. Zelda being the obvious mention. But does anyone remember the thoroughly 'orchestral' music of a fairly old SNES game called Actraiser? The composer of the score to that game was clearly shouting out for his compositions to be performed by the LSO! It really was an epic score which had to make do with the admittedly decent synth sounds of the SNES sound chip. Going back further, The Last Ninja 2 on the trusty antique that was the C64 featured a tremendous amount of worthy orchestral style music. Its amazing that the simple blip-blops of that game could convey such a feeling of something yearning to be performed in a orchestra hall. Also, does anyone remember the outstanding SNES renditions of the Star Wars trilogy music?

Yeah, it was me who started off the whole LOTR thing actually. On this very board I provided the first completed track along with instructions on how to do it

I'm afraid I haven't got the foggiest idea what you're talking about Oh and will do Breathmask....

Gone are the days when a simple blip-blop audio track played alongside your gaming pleasure. Nowadays big budget games are utilizing significant sized traditional orchestras to achieve the feeling of total gaming immersion. Some game 'scores' even have the likes of Danny Elfman composing the main themes - Fable for instance. And a great theme that was too, typical of Elfman. Games like The Elder scrolls: Morrowind have pretty sumptous scores written for them, the main theme to this game alone is worthy of any major Hollywood adventure movie. Not heard it? Check it out via my link below. Another great piece is the main theme to a game that flopped: Headhunter Redemption. Its a pumping kick ass tune which is well worth seeking out. All in all, I'd say that a lot of game music is well worth a session on the headphones these days. It shouldn't be looked down upon, in the same way that classical elitists turn their noses up at our beloved film music. Sure, there is still plenty of dross to be found (just like film music then), but you should give it a try, you might like it. Note to Mods: I'm assuming I'm okay posting these two tracks since they are freely available as sample tracks found on the respective game developers websites. I'm not gonna say what game the first track is from, I want you to just listen before you make judgement. Thats why I uploaded it - to hide the title of the actual game. Many of you may recognise it instantly. Its nothing spectacular, just a nice little choral piece: http://rapidshare.de/files/20225361/04_Gho..._Reach.mp3.html And the Morrowind main theme can be found here: http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/down...loads_music.htm Its the second one down. Though the Oblivion main theme is well worth a listen too. Enjoy! And please... No snobbery

Agree entirely. Goldsmith was just as adept as Williams at creating themes that stick, when he had the right material to work with. Sadly for Jerry, John got all the '70s - '80s blockbuster work simply because John met Spielberg. I'd have loved to have heard what Jerry would have done with the likes of Indy, ET and Star Wars. Having said that, I suspect only someone as crafty as Williams would have thought up the idea of keeping the Jaws theme so damn simple 8O Goldsmith was just as good as Williams when it came to the action stuff too. But Williams is my favourite simply because his stuff just happened to catch my imagination a little more than Goldsmith.

See I don't think they are. Technically sure, but I'm talking about raw emotion. Both these pieces inspire a profound sense of awe and wonder of the unknown in me. Thats what I'm talking about.

Whoops yes it is. Sorry 8O

Both powerful, awe inspiring pieces, both utilizing full orchestra and both from the two masters. So which do you prefer? Me? I can't choose 8O

Okay I've tried that. Thanks for the tip I'll see how I get on. To the guy who dislikes Anakins theme: I disagree, sure its not as catchy as we might have expected but its still a superb piece of music. Williams was obviously attempting to create depth and uncertainty to Anakin, which might have worked if the future Vadar wasn't played by a bowl-headed little shit. Could this be a rare case of Williams actually getting the music wrong where the character is concerned? Or should that be the actor. It seems Williams wrote a thoughtful and predictive theme which would suit a disturbed youngster who would eventually become Vader. Williams obviously thought Anakins theme up before he saw what Lucas had spun. Williams thought of a young Vader in the same way that the fans did - basically, a kid with issues. Its not Williams' fault that Lucas created something entirely different in the finished product. If you bare this in mind, Anakins theme is exceptional. Not only does the piece feature a haunting and unusual theme, its also one of Williams' most mature strings works to date.

ARGHHH! I keep trying to reply and take part in my own thread but I keep getting logged out. Its been annoying me for months now. No wonder I hardly frequent this place. Its a shame coz I enjoy the discussions which go on here.

That is indeed a good point, you could say the piece harks back to Williams' jazz days. But that doesn't mean I have to like it Oh and the lyrical version of Can You Read My Mind sounds terrible no matter WHO sings it

For all the sublime music Williams has written for the movies, he has still composed a few duds (hey, even the Don of film music isn't perfect!). I don't mean entire scores, just cues. There is the odd piece he's wrote which I've never gotten into, or I just don't like. "Banning Back Home" from Hook is one of them. It just sounds so un-Williams like - its mall muzak for Christs sake! Obviously some posters are gonna tell me that Williams deliberately wrote this as a lighthearted, easy listening piece and that it suits the film material quite well. Well I'm sure it does, but that doesn't necessarily make it good to listen to on headphones. So what cues do you dislike from the Williams catalogue? Maybe you even dislike whole scores he's wrote?

"SUP-ER---MAN, ITS SUP-ER-MAN" Did he write his fanfare theme consciously this way? Or is it coincidence? The same can be said of Star Wars: STAAAR- WAAARS etc. Even Bill Murray parodied this particular theme years ago on Saturday Night Live via song. Is this the way Williams writes a lot of his themes, or am I just finding happy coincidences?

Nice work dude. Quaint, but you hit all the right notes 8O I liked your climax to the Krypton one, but I'd have upped the decibles a bit more myself Good stuff.

WTF?! The Raiders March on this album is the best rendition available. Even better than the original, bar a tiny little second during the strings middle section.

Williams' amphetamines dealing method remained as discreet as ever at this years Oscars. Seriously though, that Brokeback guy looks like he's in a serious state of awe. Methinks he's finally met his idol (note how he holds onto him with both hands...). The lucky bastard! That great picture speaks a thousand words. A 'Kodak moment', as it were.

Last I heard, Williams has never actually had an entire score rejected. A few cues yes, but thats about it. I'm pretty sure I read this in a the debut issue of the UK film mag 'Total Film'. Its first scoop interview was with Williams. Not a bad read either.

Did anyone catch her simply astounding, near-flawless (and she's exceptionally beautiful to boot!) winning performance in the Figure Skating event a few days ago? She truly blew me away. And the beautiful violin rendition of Nessun Dorma helped in spades, it sent a shiver down my spine. But I cannot seem to track this particular version down, so does anyone know who it was performed by or even where I can find it? I'd love to get my hands on it Here is a video link to the actual performance, the quality is a little crappy, but you can hear the music clearly enough: (Maybe someone knows of a better quality video link?) http://www.hiphopmusic.com/best_of_youtube...6_olympics.html If this doesn't reduce you to an overwhelmed emotinal mess, you have no heart :cry: Just look at her euphoric expression when she finishes - she just knows she nailed it... all the way to Gold :spiny: Also, what is that beautiful music that plays at the beginning of the performance? Its quite stunning too.

I say this exact speech to someone at least once a day.

I'm guessing you haven't heard his concert arrangement of The Asteroid Field.