Skelly
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Believe it or not I've never seen the full film (though I recall thinking that Ferris was kind of a snot-nosed brat), but I shall not hesitate to place an order! I'm sure the score is quite enjoyable.
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier ~ Henry Jackman + various RCP associates
[1m1 is tracked from Silvestri's score for the first film]
1m2 Pick Up A Fossil
1m3 French Pirates
1m4 Full Pirate Dispatchment
1m5 SHIELD Headquarters
1m6 Impressive Hardware
2m7 Smithsonian Scourse
2m8 Peggy
2m9 World Security Council
2m10 Sam's Support Group
2m11a Fury SUV Ambush
2m11a alt Fury SUV Ambush (Alternate)
2m11b Winter Soldier Reveal
2m12 Unwanted Apartment Guests
3m13 Don't Do This to Me, Nick
3m14 Somebody Murdered My Friend
3m15a Elevator Brew
3m15b Elevator Munch
3m16 Single-Handed Jet Sabotage
3m17 New Set of Orders
3m18 50-Year Old Ghost Story
3m19 Reactivate Project Insight
3m20 Mall Tension
4m21-22 Frozen In Time
4m23a Zola, pt. I
4m23b Zola, pt. II
4m24 Housekeeper Dismissal
4m25 Falcon Wants In
4m26 Zola's Algorithm
5m27 Winter Soldier Causeway Battle
5m28 Best Doctor Ever
5m29 Winter Soldier Reboot
5m30-31 Time to Suit Up
5m30-31 alt Time to Suit Up (Alternate)
6m32 Cap's Big Speech
6m33a Initiate the Launch
6m33b Rise of the Helicarriers
6m34 Face Lift
6m35 Cap & Falcon Make It to the Grid
6m36 Winter Soldier Jet Hijack
6m37 Fury & Pierce Face Off
6m38 Cap & Winter Soldier Standoff
7m40b Target Reidrect
7m40b alt Target Reidrect (Alternate)
7m41 Falcon's Narrow Escape
7m42 Till the End of the Line
7m43a Epilogue Biscuits
7m44 Main On End
7m45 Twin Freaks -
Knowing WB, the films will probably be re-released every two years in new packaging. My looks aren't being revitalized anywhere near that often.
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6 hours ago, Jay said:
Never seen a blu ray with rotten tomatoes on the cover before
I have. They seem to reserve that label for films that underperformed in the box office. It's their extra way of saying, "Please! Please, buy our movie! Some critics said it wasn't a rotten tomato!"
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Interview With A Vampire ~ Elliot Goldenthal
Source: Bill Wrobel's cue rundown (see The Nature of Elliot Goldenthal's Music)
1M1 Main Title
1M3 Flashback
1M3A Light Switch
1M4 Up The Mast
2M1
2M1B Pt 2 Transformation
2M2 Commedia Delliarte
3M2A Lestat On Horse
3M3 Louis Burns House
4M1 Lestat Baits Louis
4M2 Louis Meets Claudia
4M2 Alternate
4M3 Tarantella & Flight
5M1 Claudia Joins the Club
6M2 Claudia Freaks Out
6M3 Claudia Returns Home
6M4 Time To Leave
7M1 Claudia Deceives Lestat
7M1A Collapses Time
7M3A Lestat Returns
7M4 Piano Underscore
7M6 Escape To Paris
7M6A Lestat Pre-Burn
8M1 Stetchee
8M2 Strauss Waltz8M3A Santiago's Waltz
8M3A PT2 Armand's Entrance
8M5 The Vampire Banquet
9M1 The Universe Is Empty
9M2 Beyond Words
9M3 Armand's Seduction
10M1 Induction & Lament
10M2 The Abduction
10M2A Cistern (Claudia's Death)
10M3 Loss & Revenge
11M1 Reprisal & Rescue
11M2 Louis Returns Home
11M4 Scent Of Death
12M2 Fake Ending
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On 8/24/2016 at 9:42 PM, Jay said:
Those Harry Potter games have good scores!
Indeed! As a lad I often played them just for the music.
The pause screen for the PC version of Chamber of Secrets had this lovely cue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwaLGCV58w0
Like Williams, Soule had a distinct style for the first two and switched things up a lot for the third.
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1 hour ago, bollemanneke said:
And what about Snape? On the one hand, I think picking another actor is blasphemy, but then again, at least Rickman will be spared from speaking all the out-of-character lines
Good point. Maybe an original storyline, then?
But that would probably lead to heavy discontent between Rowling and WB. -
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On 8/16/2016 at 5:28 PM, antovolk said:
EDIT: originally believed this was just Jóhannsson (according to the screenwriter Eric Heiserrer) but it seems the trailer track is by Confidential Music featuring elements from Jóhannsson's score (think the first half is just JJ?)
An Immediate Music track was used as well ('Subnuclear'), so good luck figuring out who did what!
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1 hour ago, bollemanneke said:
The Chamber Opens: Three Note Loop from HP1
That's what I thought as well - I thought it was 0:23 onward, albeit with internal edits - but they don't quite match up. The film has more pronounced brass, and a grander lead-up to the melodramatic measure of the loop.
But thanks for the other IDs.
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4 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said:
It went quickly downhill from there for me as the movies started to feel more and more like massive missed opportunities.
While the general story elements remained intact, the general "fun" and "magic" that made the books so good was hardly to be found in the later films.
Instead, there was "doom and gloom". And the "epic wizard battles that look like puffs of smoke circling each other". Not cool!
Completely agree. The first four films were very good at surprising the audience with all sorts of little ways that magic works in the wizarding world.
With Yates, it all felt so cut-and-dry. In terms of magic, there was almost nothing we hadn't seen before.
DH part 1 is just awful. "Doom and gloom" is a theme there and I wouldn't mind it so much if the film weren't hitting you over the head with it with the low brightness level. There's so little magic in it, too. Heck, here's how they advertised the film!
Spoiler
At that point of course, everyone knew what Harry Potter was, but without the text there's no pinning down what type of film it is. Nothing that indicates adventure or fantasy at all.
The editing for almost all the later films is pretty atrocious too.
5 hours ago, mrbellamy said:That'd be the other problem is that it panders excessively to people who haven't seen the first film or read the books, which is the opposite problem of the later ones. Cringeworthy lines like "There's only one place we're going to get all of this....Diagon Alley!" or "Millicent Bulstrode....Slytherin!" It hammers not just all the new creations into you but all the old stuff as well. Gets tedious and isn't as enjoyable as when it was all being discovered and learned anew, and as you say the reused music adds to the stale feeling.
Yes, subtlety is hardly a talent of Chris Columbus's.
Personally I think the re-use of so many themes helped make the two films feel cohesive. Since the film series explored several different styles in its ten years, sometimes going from one film to the next is a jarring experience because it's so different from what you saw last time. It makes it easier for me appreciate the various forms of repetition in Chamber of Secrets, musical and otherwise.
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10 hours ago, Datameister said:
I'd still have to watch the film to figure it all out, though...and I don't want to watch that film.
Why not? Honestly I think CoS is my favorite of them all. It's way more interesting and fun than, say, Yates's films.
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1 hour ago, Datameister said:
I haven't studied the film for tracked music, but I'd wager that virtually everything you're wondering about was recorded for COS. They re-recorded a lot of stuff adapted from SS. Over 20% of the score, I believe.
30-40% is more like it. I would be inclined to think that they're just re-used themes too, but the music summary sheets clearly indicate that they're tracked. Plus the bootleg that surfaced a few years ago includes none of them, nor did Bill Wroble find anything on them when he went through the score (well, he found a note on one of them - 8m2A - that it required "0 musicians").
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Hello, JWFan! I made an account here some time ago, though I never really got around to actually posting...
But despite my earlier lack of loquaciousness, I now turn to you in need of your unparalleled John Williams wisdom! Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets had quite a bit of tracked music - i.e., music lifted directly from the recording sessions for Philosopher's Stone in place of having original material. I'm trying to make edits that match the tracked cues as closely as possible, but there are a few parts that have me stumped, and I'm hoping you guys can help me out in identifying certain tracks.
Also, quick shout-out to Incanus for his marvelous look at the PS score. It's helped me a lot in IDing certain tracks and it's a great read. He is a talented writer and listener for sure!
Listed here are all the tracked cues in the film, courtesy of the music summary sheets presented in Fred Karlin and Rayburn Wright's On the Track book, and which parts of them I've been able to match with their PS sources. I've provided videos for the ones I haven't been able to fully identify; apologies in advance for their quality (they're all mono since my video editor refuses to export in proper stereo at times). I can post much nicer-sounding copies of the audio in MP3 or lossless if you think it'd be helpful (and if such a thing is allowed here). Although the audio in the videos is taken from the front and rear channels of the film's surround sound mix, in the end I'm editing all of these straight from the lossless sessions files.
[2m9] HOWLER LETTER FOR RON: the first half is sourced from "Escaping Frog"; the rest from "Don't Burn My Letter".
[5m1-2] HARRY IS A PARSLEMOUTH: according to the summary sheets, a new cue was originally intended at some point to be recorded for this sequence, but they ended up tracking music instead. The first 30 seconds are from "You're A Wizard, Harry", but I can't pin down where that variation of Hedwig's Theme is from.
[6m4A] ENTERING THE DIARY:
0:00-1:24 - "The Library Scene"
1:25-1:44 - "Hermione's Reading"
That's as far as I've gotten with this cue. At 1:45 it sounds certainly like "The Moving Stairs", but the pitch is noticeably altered! Those sound editors and their shenanigans. I am in no capacity educated in music at all, but if any of you have any knowledge about these sorts of things, and how I can alter the pitch of the sessions cue to match the film's as closely as possible, that'd be quite helpful.
[8m2A] THE CHAMBER OPENS: I haven't gone very in-depth with this cue yet, but is it just me, or is the grandiose rendition of the three-note loop near the end tracked from an earlier Chamber of Secrets cue - "Meeting Tom Riddle"? I could be off on that one since, again, I haven't listened closely to this one as of this writing.
[8m2C] ENTERING THE CHAMBER: This is easily the longest tracked cue.
0:00-0:52 - "The Chess Board"
0:52-1:12 - "Checkmate"
1:13-1:52 - "Hagrid's Flashback"
1:53-2:12 - "The Library Scene"
2:13-2:26 - "The Black/Blue Forest"
2:27-3:50 - Here's where it gets tricky. It's definitely some variation of the three-note loop, and there certainly are sound-a-likes in "Three Note Loop" and a bit of "The Mirror Scene", but here it is at a pitch that doesn't seem to match any of those two. Was the pitch once again altered by a music editor? Also, listen closely and you might here that they layered "The Chess Board" over this as well... what a weird decision to make.
3:51-4:12 - "The Chess Board"
4:13-4:28 - "Three Note Loop"
4:29-4:47 - "The Mirror Scene"
4:48-5:03 - Once again, it sounds like a pitch-shifted "Three Note Loop" with "The Chess Board" layered on top.
5:04-end - "The Chess Board" continues on its own until it segues into an all-new cue.
[8m4] BASILISK CONFRONTS HARRY: I haven't actually looked at this one yet at all, but I'll probably get stumped on this one too.
[8m6] DEMISE OF TOM RIDDLE: It's all from the latter half of "The Mirror Scene", though they changed the tempo of the track several times.
Hopefully you guys know your Harry Potter scores better than I do! I appreciate any help you guys can give, and do let me know if the files I provided just sound too awful to be able to recognize anything.
Harry Potter - Live to Projection Concerts
in JOHN WILLIAMS
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I'm more interested to see if they do that for Chamber of Secrets when the time comes. The tracked cues in that film are crazy!