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  1.    Monoverantus reacted to a post in a topic: The Hobbit Film Trilogy Thread
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  10. Monoverantus
    Easy peasy
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  13. Monoverantus
    That I can agree with. In polite society? No. On a forum tailor-made for this exact level of obsessive pedantry?
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    Sure, but that's kind of like saying the History of the Ring's melody is clearly in A minor, or the Fellowship is in D minor. All this is true, but doesn't convey the actual harmonic complexity of the themes.
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    To quote a particularly inquisitive Hobbit: "This was your idea!" Not sure I'd agree. The key (haha) feature of the Ring material is, as mentioned, that first halfstep from a non-chord note to either the root or the fifth, which makes the Smoke Rings a compelling hint. By contrast, all those examples are chord progressions. They're chromatic progressions yes, and the top note moves up a halfstep, but there's no non-chord notes. By that standard the Nature theme could be categorized as a Ring hint with the rising halfstep over Am-F.
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    Found another: the first Shire theme in the Theatrical cut, which makes sense following the Ebm-Eb progression that ends the Prologue. But yeah, Howard Shore is apparently no fan of Eb. Yes, or rather the complete Fm-Em-Fm-Em-Abm-Gm-Abm-Gm version that plays like 5 times in Fellowship. But since we're technically not looking for any time a theme plays in a certain key, but what theme a key is most commonly associated with, I think it's fair to say neither Eb or Ab have a such a thing. I actually fixed this by putting Minas Tirith in C Lydian but then forgot to remove that line Also worth mentioning that the Sauron/Mordor theme technically isn't in harmonic minor either. The melody uses the C#, but the accompaniments (Mordor Skip-Beat and Descending Thirds) always play in normal minor (with C naturals). Which means that just like the History of the Ring, the first tone is out-of-key, or more correctly a chromatic half-step resolution to either the root or fifth. The resulting dissonance between melody and accompaniment is the whole point.
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    Not really seeing a lot of black keys here (perhaps for understandable reasons) but I would add: A major (chromaticized) = Rivendell A Dorian = Rohan A minor = Dwarves, Nature, The Seduction of the Ring A minor (chromaticized) = "Evil" chords Bb Dorian = Bard B minor = Arkenstone C Pentatonic = Hobbits, The Grey Havens C Lydian = Eowyn, Minas Tirith C minor = Grima (Ahem...) Db (chromaticized) = Ents D major (chromaticized) = the Fellowship, Gondor D Pentatonic = Hobbits, The Grey Havens D Dorian = Gondor, Laketown D Phrygian = Woodland Realm D Harmonic Minor = Sauron D minor = Fussy Bilbo, Sauron, Ringwraiths, Isengard, Eb??? does any theme ever play in Eb??? E minor = Aragorn and Arwen (also E major), Wargs, Rohan, Gondor Reborn F Lydian = Eowyn's pining for Aragorn F Phrygian Dominant = Galadriel, Smaug F# minor (chromaticized) = The Journey There, Galadriel's Powers G major = Hobbits G♯ minor ≈ A♭ minor (chromaticized) = The Ring Atonal = Spiders
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    Gonna give a radical option: FotR: Green for The Shire, yadda yadda TT: Blue for night scenes, you've heard it before RotK: YELLOW, for the golden sheen over many scenes like the Edoras scenes, charge of the Rohirrim, the Grey Havens Red for the box set, equivalent to the Red Book.
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    Seems like the discussion has left this topic, but I just wanted to add that these are talking about two different moments, 3:25 and 3:55.
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  29. Monoverantus
    @Jim Ware Out of curiosity, is this tidbit from @VenomVeVenom that the Nazgûl theme was originally intended as the main villain theme of the series news, or has this been known a long time? I can't recall if the Annotated Score or Doug's book touched on it.
  30. Monoverantus
    Yeah I know, words words words
  31. Monoverantus
    Well, as someone who's also analysed the track (making no fewer than 16 prototypes before the final release and still feeling I could've added more info), I feel at least a mention would be warranted of The Footsteps of Doom (and its relationship to the Nazgûl theme) and The Fall of Men, even the small Rivendell-y part tracked from The Sword that was Broken.
  32. Monoverantus
    Nice, but is there some text missing? There's barely any analysis past the 2:30 mark? The nice thing about this interpretation (a major melody over a minor harmony) is the way it contrasts with the Fellowship theme (a minor melody over a major harmony).
  33. Monoverantus
    I don't know, as time goes by I'm starting to consider if Tolkien was the original "ruin the wonder and mystery by publishing unecessary prequels"-guy.
  34. Monoverantus
    I'm not sure if Bear's underselling himself here, because he never mentions that the chords used to make Annatar appear so angelic are all exclusively picked from the Eregion theme:
  35. Monoverantus
    Aha, I see I'm sure there is, but as far as MuseScore samples go, neglectable.
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