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Kingmark wrote: *Well as far as the end, it is Hedwig's theme, but a lot of music was cut, I do know that for a fact. It could be part of the family theme even though I thought the Family theme was part of what was played at the end of The Track- Norwegian Ridgeback. About half way through the track (Arrival of Baby Harry) some of the music was used for a Coke commercial for the Sorcerers Stone, but it was cut from the movie. *(Sorcerer's Stone) One of my favortive parts are when Harry goes to pick a wand, and picks the one he's destine to have and then it begins to glow over his head as the music comes in. It sucks that that part was cut from the soundtrack. *(Sorcerer's Stone) When Ron uses the levitation spell to knock out the troll and the music subtly begins to fade out. All great snippets of music!

Its a great choice. It works much better than Val Kilmer.

Thanks thx99. That's some great advice. I guess I owe you one. If your looking for anything, holla, and I'll see what I can do. I have to get this CD now.

*It'll make money, but highest grossing film ever? No. Not with Titanic where it's at. Now it may end up becoming one of the highest grossing Trilogies (the Lord of the Rings), but as for Return of the King doing it on it's own, I highly doubt that. I'll say that it'll make about 340 million, and more in DVD sales, but thats where I see it at. I can probably say the same about the Matrix Revolutions, but I pretty much know that the Matrix Trilogy will probably be the Highest grossing "R" rated trilogy ever. *I do see these movies as a great opportunity to pick up two great scores, by Shore and Davis!

I think it all depends on the story line. It may call for it it's titled Indiana Jones and the Emperors Tomb (like the video game). I think the there will be small amounts of CGI (not as much as Star Wars), but only in choice scenes, especially if there trying to give it that B-movie feel. (According to the quote at the top)

Oh and the rotating horns portion of the Matrix opening-its a great effect. I also gotta give Don Davis his props for it!

Best John Williams 20 seconds portions: *Majority of Harry Potter (Sorcerer's Stone) did it for me, but more specifically (The Track- Arrival of Baby Harry on The Score) when Hagrid lies Harry on the Dursley's step and the music begins to take a melancholy state just as Hagrid feels sad, then the camera suddenly zooms in on Harry's scar and the entire orchestra comes in (One of the best variations of Hedwig's theme I might add) *In Harry Potter (Sorcerer's Stone), when Ron makes the final move in the chess game. *In Harry Potter (Chamber of Secrets) where Harry Potter is thrown out of Tom Riddle's diary. *Even though there a lot of John Williams greats, I have to add the beginning of Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life as one of the best openers. The Opening is longer than 20 seconds, but it is very enjoyable and the movie has a great score to go along with it. Great job Silvestri!

Here's an article about The Return of the King score: This came from http://filmforce.ign.com/lotr/articles/395...5/395204p1.html and the article originated on April 25th, 2003. So Shore may be pretty close to finishing his score. *I really look forward to hearing it. It will probbaly be the best one of all.

And the only reason I referred to Badelt and Zimmer's score, is because they did majority of the work. Zimmer being the score producer & music editor, and Badelt doing the music. Therefore it was a joint effort. That's why it was said.

Indysolo wrote: I only wrote that in response to Morlock's previous quote. Seen here: Morlock wrote: *I found that out later that, or else I wouldnt have put: So I did do my research...

I just noticed this... My Quote in it's entirety: Here's what Justin wrote: *First of all, you spelled "actually" wrong. *Second of all, if you would have did your research, you would have seen that Badelt had in fact wrote majority the music for Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl . The official movie credits; at the official movie site: *Go to http://pirates.movies.go.com/.* *By the words "Music By," in the credits, you will see his name: Klaus Badelt. *And, if you also go to http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0325980/fullcredits (aka IMDB) there are many people who worked on music for the film, including Zimmer who served as music editor and score producer. Yes, he did help to shape the final sound of the score, but the fact is, he didn't write all the music. I'm not even sure if he wrote any of it. Since it was supposed to actually be Alan Silvestri who was going to do the score, but left the film due to creative differences, it went to a number of composers before finding its way to Badelt. -Silvestri ended up doing the score: Lara Croft-Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life, while the job to score "Pirates" was left to Badelt. (Silvestri did a great job on that score by the way-You should pick it up!) *The job was kinda last minute, very much like The Hulk where Danna was supposed to do it, but had ended up getting fired and so the job went to Danny Elfman. *Anyway if you wanna get technical, here's the actual list of everyone who contributed music to the film: The Pirate songs were by: Xavier Atencio, George Bruns. The Score: Geoff Zanelli (additional music), Mel Wesson (ambient music design), Blake Neely (additional music), James McKee Smith (additional music), Steve Jablonsky (additional music), Nick Glennie-Smith (additional music), James Michael Dooley (additional music), Ramin Djawadi (additional music) and Klaus Badelt. Yeah, that's it! That's the list. So Justin, chill with the corrections. Peace! * *

"Nothing is new under the sun" I hope everyone knows what this means. Everyone's borrowed from someone in one way or another. Look at P. Diddy (I realize he's not John Williams). He's sampled pretty much every song you could sample from and made hits out of them. A lot of Hip-Hop producers do it, a long with Rock producers, Country producers, etc. You get the idea. Look at Danny Elfman. He tends to copy a lot of Bernard Herrman's techniques, but he admits it, due to his admiration for the late, great composer (It's pretty obvious in Red Dragon, even though it's a good score). That's how I see it. When someone admires another person, they tend to act like him, or mimic him in a certain manner. When I was younger, I used to wear Jordan's shoes, and pretend I was him. That was basically the admiration I had for him. That's how I see it. If John Williams wants to mimic, or improve upon a certain technique, then more power to him. It hasn't stopped him from becoming one of the greatest film composers of our time. It's not like any film composer hasn't ever done it either. Williams, Elfman, Davis, Silvestri- They've all done it. I know I probably will end up doing it to, because they know what good music sounds like, and they've influenced me greatly. Bart Wrote: I'm not sure. I'm studying all the major music periods in Music Apprieciation, and have a lot of material from each period. So I'll find out soon.

I agree. The Matrix is a great series of movies, and one of my favorite at that. But they should've made Reloaded a little longer to explain the occurances of what had happened before. I know what all that is, having played and beaten Enter The Matrix, and watched the Animatrix. (Even though it wasn't hard to see what was going on before all that) If you see those, and then watch the movie, then its a much better movie. But this all boils down to Marketing. They didn't put all of it in the movie for a reason. They wanted you to check out the game as well as the Animatrix. It's understandible. I cant complain.

Well there are a number of hotels in Chicago (The Hilton, The Holiday Inn) but it all depends on what your looking for. I recommend you go to hotels.com, orbitz.com, expedia.com, or travelocity.com to find exactly what your looking for as far as hotels go. These sites also offer Car Rentals, as well as Plane Tickets, so it's basically for all your travel needs. They also have specifics and pictures of hotels (cars, etc) so you can see what your getting before you get there. Its truly a great site. *I also recommend bringing something to keep you busy on the plane while you travel. I've been to England and back, and its a 12+ hour trip, including any stops you make. *Anyway, good luck and have fun in Chicago. Tell me how the concert goes by the way.

You should go see it. If you want to hear some of the score (seems like an A+ job from Don Davis) then click on this link: *Neodämmerung http://dondavis.filmmusic.com/media/matrix...volutions_5.mp3 Oh and I wanna thank Jim Ware for finding it. It's amazing.

lol I guess the quote didn't work.

The music seemed to me to be more of a compilation. I heard themes from Shrek and the Terminator. But I also did hear a lot of Jurassic Park, and even E.T. I remember it pretty because I went to Universal Studios Hollywood for my Senior Trip in June. MSM wrote:

Oh and Jim, I hope you dont mind if I add your link in my signature. I just think you stumbled on to something great. Good Job!

Damn!!! Now that's what I'm talking about! This is even more of a reason for me to see The Matrix: Revolutions. He pretty much out did Shore's choral sequences in the Lord of the Rings and that was some great material. But then again I do wonder what Shore's Return of the King will be like. This should be nominated for A Grammy, an Emmy; give it something!!! *Oh, its nice to see someone that's a fan of Don Davis besides myself!!

Hmm. Try Amazon.com or maybe Fye or even CD universe.

The Lord is Judge wrote: Oh. lol Its hard to tell. I just barely made out the Alan part.

For JoeinAr: **Spoliers** In short-Return of the King is about: "After leaving the Riders of Rohan, Gandalf and Pippin ride to Gondor. They meet Denethor, who clearly dislikes Gandalf. Pippin offers his sword in service of Gondor. Meanwhile, Aragorn realizes that the Riders may not reach the city of Minas Tirith in time, and even if they do they will not be enough to turn the course of the battle. He decides to take the Paths of the Dead. As he travels through the Paths, a huge army of the Dead assembles around him. He leads them southward. In Gondor, Denethor sends Faramir to hold off the approaching enemy at Osgiliath. He holds his position as long as he can, but ultimately must give up the field. On his way back to the city, Faramir is struck by a poisoned Nazgûl arrow. Denethor locks himself in a tomb with his son's ailing body, where he plans to burn away all remnants of the line of the Stewards. The army of Mordor attacks and nearly breaks through Minas Tirith's defenses, but the Riders arrive just in time to fight them off. The forces of Mordor regroup after time and again nearly win the field, but Aragorn arrives on the Anduin with a great army of men from the south. In defense of King Théoden, Éowyn and Merry slay the Lord of the Nazgûl, but Éowyn is badly wounded. Pippin finds Gandalf, and together they stop Denethor from killing his son, though the old steward throws himself upon the pyre and burns to death. Aragorn heals all those wounded by the captain, but he does not yet claim the throne. The leaders of the armies of the west decide to put together an assault on Mordor, to avert Sauron's eyes from the quest of the Ringbearer. They march upon the gate of Morannon and are immediately surrounded by a great host out of Mordor. In the meantime, Sam manages to rescue Frodo from Cirith Ungol. The two travel together toward Orodruin, and, after several long and weary days, they reach the mountain. Just as Frodo reaches the Cracks of Doom, however, the power of the Ring takes over his mind and he decides to challenge Sauron with it. At that instant, Gollum leaps at Frodo out of the gloom and knocks him to the ground. Gollum takes the Ring from Frodo, but he stumbles and falls into the Cracks of Doom. The power of Sauron breaks, and the Western army at the Gate destroys the panicked and weakened servants of Mordor. Gandalf flies to Orodruin on the back of Gwaihir Windlord, rescuing Frodo and Sam. Aragorn is crowned King of Gondor. He marries Arwen Evenstar, fairest daughter of Elrond, and unites all the kingdoms of Men under his rule. The hobbits return to the Shire, where they find their homes much changed. Someone has entered the once peaceful land and created a demoralizing police state. His agents are half men, half orcs. The four companions organize a rebellion and, though several hobbits die, they ultimately triumph. Frodo discovers to his dismay that the hidden leader was Saruman himself, seeking a petty revenge over the homeland of the halflings who overthrew him. Frodo spares the life of the deposed wizard, but Gríma Wormtongue, fed up with the cruelty of his master, betrays and kills Saruman. The hobbits rebuild the Shire and return to more or less ordinary lives. Sam marries Rosie Cotton, and they have a young daughter the next spring. Frodo, much weakened by the burden of the Ring, decides to leave the Shire and travel with Elrond and Gandalf to the unknown West." *About Big Fish-I expect a great Danny Elfman score from this picture. Especially if Elfman has a lot more time to score. *My biggest question is: What will his Charlie and the Chocolate Factory score sound like? This movie should be good with Tim Burton directing and Johnny Depp supposedly playing Mr. Wonka himself. *(Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is slated for a 2005 release date-Info from us.imdb.com)

*There are a lot of movies left to come out for 2003, but there are two that stand out in my mind-The Return of the King and Matrix: Revolutions. These movies will easily hit the 100 million dollar mark in a matter of days, weeks at the most. But there are also a few other movies (Timeline, Scary Movie 3) that may be worth a look. My question is, which movie is the one you've really wanted to see since the year began. My list has pretty much started with the Matrix: Revolutions and had Scary Movie 3, The Return of the King, Kill Bill and Timeline in it. Underworld and the Order look like they may be worth seeing, but there's a lot of uncertainty behind it. They look good, but look like they have the potential to become a serious dud, very much like LXG-a movie I wish I could like (despite it's many flaws and unrecoginable score that had the quality of a bootleg cd) *I'm looking forward to 2004 bringing much more harder hitting movies, especially with JW scoring POA, and Terminal. I also am looking for to hearing what Silvestri's score will sound like for Van Helsing. --Sounds like a good year already!

Well I wanted to hear Goldsmith's Timeline score, but, if you really have the hook up, see about Silvestri's version of Pirates of the Carribean. I'm sure if he had recorded the score, but if indeed he has, I'd love to hear it. It probably beats Badelt and Zimmer's version of the score.

He's two places behind Quincy Jones. Just look to the back.