Indy 3 Themes

[Guest]

I just watched "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" on VHS and listened to the CD afterwards. I can't clearly distinguish the several themes. The one in the minor mode with a religious tendency seems to be related to the Holy Grail etc. And then there is one in a major mode (a fourth and a third upwards, two thirds downwards) which can fit the father as well as the Grail Knight. But what is it anyway? Then there is something like a motif which consists of three and five notes in a downward direction. Could this also be the father's one?

What do you think?

ulrich_wuenschel@web.de

[Dole 17]

These are the themes in Last Crusade as far as I know:

1. Cross of Coronado theme: spanish sounding music in "Indy's 1st Adventure."

2. Henry's Theme(father/son theme): theme predominent in "Keeping up with the Joneses" and is also heard at the beginning of "Canyon of the Moon" and "Finale" (when Henry tells Indy to "let it go")

3. Grail Theme: Heard in "The Penitent Man Will Pass"

4. Knight/Crusaders Theme: Heard in "End Credits" "Ah Rats" and "Keeper of the Grail"

5. Nazi Theme: heard in "Brother of the Cruciform Sword"

6. Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra-used throughout movie for father/son antics/misadventures

[Guest]

To those themes I would add Indy's first adventure motif, the catacombs motif and the motif from escape from Venice.

[UCFKevin 0]

Can it be said that the Last Crusade has the most NEW themes ever done by Williams for one score? It sure seems like it.

[King Mark 3,632]

Can it be said that the Last Crusade has the most NEW themes ever done by Williams for one score? It sure seems like it.

Well,it has plenty.Hook has the most(around 20 themes).

k.M.

[UCFKevin 0]

Twenty?!?! List'em!

[scissorhands 16]

I would say that The Phantom Menace has also many themes. Maybe more than Hook.

[King Mark 3,632]

I would say that The Phantom Menace has also many themes. Maybe more than Hook.

if you include themes that were included in previous SW movies.

NEW themes for TPM:

Jar Jar's theme

Duel of the Fates

Anakin's theme

Darth mauls 8 note motif(Recurs 3 times)

Gui Gon's theme

Shmi's theme.

"War" motif(First heard in The Senate on the U.E.)

Trade Federation March.

It's quit a bit,but Hook still had 20 or so new themes,which were theraly analised on previous MB's and this website,and I would need my c.d's to re-make the list,which I don't right now.

K.M.

[scissorhands 16]

I would say that The Phantom Menace has also many themes. Maybe more than Hook.

if you include themes that were included in previous SW movies.

NEW themes for TPM:

Jar Jar's theme

Duel of the Fates

Anakin's theme

Darth mauls 8 note motif(Recurs 3 times)

Gui Gon's theme

Shmi's theme.

"War" motif(First heard in The Senate on the U.E.)

Trade Federation March.

K.M.

I think there are more, KingMark.

Flag Parade

More war motifs

Underwater motif

Victory Celebration (the pod-race victory)

Augie's great municipal band

and more...

[Guest]

And the escape from naboo motif. And that theme that is heard "the queen confronts nute and rune" and "talk of podracing".

[King Mark 3,632]

Well,there has a strong longing debate here whether "thematic material"used once in the movie(like The Flag Parade),were considerd as "themes" or lietmotivs.The consensus was that only themes used more than once were elligeable....

K.m.

[Kevin McCallister 0]

Hook Themes -

Prologue Theme

Tinkerbell's Theme

Jazz Motif for Banning Back Home

Wendy/Neverland Theme

Family Theme

A jig for Pirate Town

The Pirate Theme

Hook's Primary Theme

Hook's Secondary Theme

Mermaid Motif

Remembering Childhood

Rufio Theme (Unused)

A 7 note phrase for The Lost Boys Chase

"Religious" Motif

The Banquet Theme

When You're Alone

The Flying Theme

That's all I can think of. The film has as many themes as practically the whole Star Wars trilogy!

[Morn 8]

I would say that The Phantom Menace has also many themes. Maybe more than Hook.

if you include themes that were included in previous SW movies.

NEW themes for TPM:

Jar Jar's theme

Duel of the Fates

Anakin's theme

Darth mauls 8 note motif(Recurs 3 times)

Gui Gon's theme

Shmi's theme.

"War" motif(First heard in The Senate on the U.E.)

Trade Federation March.

K.M.

I think there are more, KingMark.

Flag Parade

More war motifs

Underwater motif

Victory Celebration (the pod-race victory)

Augie's great municipal band

and more...

Umm, doesn't a theme have to be used more than once to be considered a theme? Well, rather a leitmotif theme.

[Rogue_Leader 2]

Yeah JW certainly put alot of stuff into W: TPM. If ya didn't like the score ya cannot blame it on lack of themes.