Morlock 11 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 This is not discussing religion, so it does not clash with the rules. I was just wondering out of curiosity (or pack pride) about what religion all these movie composers I love are. Being Jewish, it does make me feel a bit of that pack pride thing knowing that some of the biggest names in movie scoring, such as A. Newman, Waxman, Bachrach, Tiomkin, E. Bernstein, and Korngold and I've heard also Rozsa, Herrman and Steiner (Though unconfirmed) are jewish. Most of the others are just going by name- Goldsmith, Goldenthal, Elfman, Newman, Menken could all be jewish, where as Horner, North, Kamen, Barry, Arnold, Conti, Burwell, Zimmer, Shore are most probably Christian. The only one I know for a fact is not Judao-Christian is Glass, who is famously buddhist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 even though this is a WAY interesting topic, i think we might want to keep it to PM's and chats don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 17, 2003 Author Share Posted February 17, 2003 I don't see why- I want to tap into everyone's knowledgenot just one or two members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 What is Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Well, its unclear with what religion Williams was raised or which one is prominent in his background. But it doesn't really matter all that much, since he has stated many times that he "isn't particularly religious."Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 i know it's interesting...i have no clue though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 I think Glass is the only composer who has been vocal about his faith.Although I wonder if being Jewish had something to do with Bernstein choosing to score "The Ten Commandments." And more recently, what does that say about Hans Zimmer and "The Prince of Egypt." I am sure the songwriter, Stephen Schwartz, is Jewish.Jeff -- afraid that this is going to get moved to "Other Topics" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I remeber Mr. Williams mentioning God a few times, but I am unsure where I found those references. I think they were video interviews.~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 But referencing (a) god doesn't automatically make one religious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 You're right, and I thought that when I was typing, but I didn't want to type that much because I was on a laptop, and I don't likt laptops. I can't use them well.~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I think Glass is the only composer who has been vocal about his faith.First of all, I assume you mean of recent times (or film composer maybe?). And even so, that statement is probably very far off (unless you mean film composer).Reich is a great example of a composer who is vocal about his faith, which by the way, is Jewish. He used Jewish cantillation as a compositional basis for some of his works, including the Octet, which I like very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 What about Goldsmith and his work with Christius (Sp?) Apollo? Can that be considered a Jewish thing, or is it very specifically Christian? I don't know much about the piece. I know that The Omen is very Christian (sort of), but that was a score. He just relied heavily on the Christian music of old.~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I copied this list of jewish film composers when this topic came up in FSM.Goldsmith Herrmann North (A russian by background, born in USA)Bernstein N. Riddle Menken Previn D. Shire J. Mandel Kamen M. Gore M. Gould Hamlisch V. Young BacharachTiomkin (Born in russia)Friedhofer G. Fried Fielding Rosenthal Rosenman Horner Shore Goldenthal Newman (Thomas and David are only half )Steiner (born in Austria)Korngold (born in Austria)Rabin Elfman Glass Glasser Salter Rosza (only found out late in life, is christian born in Hungary)Well I can't be sure about all these on the list but I can tell you I knowthat Goldsmith, Herrmann and Korngold are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Wow, that's a lot. Not that that's bad or anything. It just goes to show that I have no clue how to tell.~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 18, 2003 Author Share Posted February 18, 2003 Wow, some of those names were obvious- but HORNER? SHORE? RABIN? NORTH? KAMEN? Although I was hoping to find a certain Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Conor,It just goes to show that I have no clue how to tell. that sentence frightens me a bit. should a person's religion be stamped on their face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 No, and that's exactly it. It isn't. It shouldn't, but it means that you just don't know. Don't get me wrong, I don't try to avoid people who are certain religions, because I don't honestly care what religion they belong to. I'm merely saying that it isn't something that is easy to recognize, like you said.~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 ok, phew.i thought you meant that you should be able to tell, and you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Wow' date=' some of those names were obvious- but HORNER? SHORE? RABIN? NORTH? KAMEN? [/quote']I know. I sorta doubt the list. Butl you gotta admit North might not have the name but he does have the nose. Although I was hoping to find a certain Williams LOL Not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Well, does that mean they see themselves as being of Jewish faith, or just that they are Jewish by descent?I didn't want to type that much because I was on a laptop, and I don't likt laptops. I can't use them well.You get used to it. When I got my laptop, I thought, I'll always be using it with an external keyboard. But I've been using it as my main computer for over a year now, and at the moment I can't type as well on any other keyboard than on the built-in one. Marian - who likes his Dell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 does that mean you are taking part of maine's lovely laptop program?(I can't remember how old you are, but part of me thinks this is your own laptop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Well, does that mean they see themselves as being of Jewish faith, or just that they are Jewish by descent?Probably a little of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 does that mean you are taking part of maine's lovely laptop program?(I can't remember how old you are, but part of me thinks this is your own laptop) (Not sure if you were really referring to me?) I'm 24, and this is my own laptop. But Maine is far too far away from me, even if I could apply (or in fact had heard about this before), shipping costs would probably as high as the price for another laptop. Marian - deep in the heart of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 You're still in the seventh grade (or whatever is the European equivalent of the US seventh grade)?~Conor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 I finished school five and a half years ago and am currently studying computer sciences.Marian - who doesn't think 7th (or whatever) grades can get cheap laptops here anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 22, 2003 Share Posted February 22, 2003 the seventh graders in maine get their own ibooks for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 I am not sure about this but I believe JW was supposed to have been raised a Roman Catholic correct?Anyway I was not aware Horner was Jewish. That one was unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 I think Williams is a Jedi....or a Sith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 He bears some resemblance to Chris Lee in AOTC (only without the hair and with glasses). So maybe he is Sith Lord Darth Tyrannus in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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