Jim Ware 526 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Glad you enjoyed it Steef! I wish they'd to this in a proper concert hall here. Plus the orchestra, chorus and soloists they're using here are probably the cheap way out. I was toying with the idea of going to Munich for their live screening last month, but in the end I was too lazy.The best place to see ROTK live is still the KKL in Luzern, with the 21st Century Symphony Orchestra and Chorus (although I am rather biased).http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimjware/4469072731/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The best place to see ROTK live is still the KKL in Luzern, with the 21st Century Symphony Orchestra and Chorus (although I am rather biased). http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimjware/4469072731/I don't doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 The OST version of the Beacons cue has different orchestrations then the CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 What is the alternate version you speak of? Also, is there any music from the theatrical or extended films that's not on the OST, CR or rarity archives?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The OST version of the Beacons cue has different orchestrations then the CRDifferent chords, more importantly. I've never liked the chord resolution in the film version compared to the album cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The OST version of the Beacons cue has different orchestrations then the CRDifferent chords, more importantly. I've never liked the chord resolution in the film version compared to the album cue.Its funny, when looking for that cue, when I was still borrowing CD's from the library, I got hold of the ROTK OST, and was frustrated to not find the FV on it (that had been used in the LOTR: The Third Age game's menu), now I prefer the OST version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Mostly the various DVD editions, in special features and menus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I think the meat of the music is found on OSTs, CRs and the Rarities. Most of the other material is snippets from here and there with some significant moments from e.g. Theatrical version of some cues. I do not seem to remember any end-all list of this material anywhere though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 here is a short list:Into The West (Acoustic Version)Prologue (TE DVD Menu Version, I think its from the theatrical version)Saruman The White (Potential Alternate - TE DVD credits menu)The Nazgul (Film Version, extended version in TE 2nd Disc DVD menus)The Road Goes Ever On Pt. 1 (NZSO)Ugluk's Warriors (Theatrical Version)Gandalf The White (Fan Club Credits Version)The March of the Ents (Alternate from Documentary with Extra Horn Overlay)The March of the Ents (Film Version Percussion)Theoden Rides Forth (Fan Club Credits Version)The Tales That Really Matter (Fellowship Theme Alternate From Documentary)Then there are some missing bars from Khazad-Dum in the the prevismissing choir bits for the Prologue in the prologue storyboarda percussive bit for Balin's Tomb in the Fan club creditsthe theatrical versions of Concerning Hobbits, and The Great River.and a snipped out section of Shortcut to mushrooms with the Descending Third in a Brass "Fanfare" setting in the "Gandalf Rides To Isengard" Previs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's also worth noting that the live to projection performances of ROTK include cues that are not in any prior release of film or music (theatrical, extended, OST, CR). Some were recorded at the original sessions, some were not.and a snipped out section of Shortcut to mushrooms with the Descending Third in a Brass "Fanfare" setting in the "Gandalf Rides To Isengard" Previs.It's additional bars from the alternate that is (partially) on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's also worth noting that the live to projection performances of ROTK include cues that are not in any prior release of film or music (theatrical, extended, OST, CR). Some were recorded at the original sessions, some were not.Where are those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's additional bars from the alternate that is (partially) on the OST.Track 5 I presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's also worth noting that the live to projection performances of ROTK include cues that are not in any prior release of film or music (theatrical, extended, OST, CR). Some were recorded at the original sessions, some were not.Where are those?In order:The end of 'Journey to the Cross-roads' includes the usual stuff, but is synchronised differentlyLegolas and Aragorn outside at Edoras at night (was recorded)A little bit more music at Edoras before Gandalf mentions the 'Paths of the Dead'Some additional bars in the middle of what was 'Twilight and Shadow' (some on the OST, not on the CR)MASSIVE CHORUS as the Rohirrim leave Edoras (stunning, written for the original sessions but not recorded)Some bits at the end of 'Shelob's Lair' - the live to projection version doesn't match the OSTThere may be others - I will dig out my old notes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I noticed while creating my sets, that Choir had a much larger role in the scores originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Legolas and Aragorn outside at Edoras at night (was recorded)A little bit more music at Edoras before Gandalf mentions the 'Paths of the Dead'I wonder why these weren't restored for the CR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Legolas and Aragorn outside at Edoras at night (was recorded)A little bit more music at Edoras before Gandalf mentions the 'Paths of the Dead'I wonder why these weren't restored for the CR?I guess Shore felt they did not help the listening experience, or would have not fit the CD (and created a an extra disc with only a few cues on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Also some unused bars put in an appearance, such as the contrapuntal treatment of all the ring themes at Mount Doom. I would not suggest getting worked up over any of the missing material - it's pretty inconsequential.Hopefully things will start moving and this thing will happen at Radio City - it would be a tragedy not to complete the trilogy there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Apart from the massive rohirrim choir, you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's the most notable thing and is deserving of the CAPITAL LETTERS used in a previous post. Had it been recorded at the original sessions, I would be getting worked up about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 MASSIVE CHORUS as the Rohirrim leave Edoras (stunning, written for the original sessions but not recorded)WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAA????????????And Cosman didn't even record that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 MASSIVE CHORUS as the Rohirrim leave Edoras (stunning, written for the original sessions but not recorded)WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAA????????????And Cosman didn't even record that???Who says he didnt?(BTW what happened to calling the FBI?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'll call them after I get to hear that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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