Jay 46,245 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I had buffalo burgers at a cookout a few weeks ago. They were delicious
Wojo 2,458 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Bison is good, and when I have it on burgers, I prefer to eat it plain so I can taste the juices of the meat. You can probably slather enough ketchup, mustard, and vegetables on anything and make it palatable. Otherwise, the markup on normal beef isn't justified.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 taste's pretty much like beef to me, it's a bit leaner, but leaner beef is less flavorful that fatty. the best hamburger/buffalo/bison is always the 73-27, or 70-30.I tend to cook by what I find at the meat dept. yesterday they had english roasts on sale and since it's been a couple of months since I fixed one I decided that looked great. I also got a beautiful pork loin end for 3 bucks.I caramelized 2 Vidalia onions. I halved them and cooked them down but I didn't want them to cook away like they do when cut small.I seared the roast on all 6 sides after I seasoned and floured it. I'm actually braising it in chicken stock, beef stock, and for a bit more richness a can of consomme soup. It will cook all afternoon. we'll have mashed potatoes, fresh squash, some sautee'd whole green beans cooked al dente. Those are for Dave, I won't eat them. Green Beans need to be cooked for hours before I'll eat them. Of course we'll have home made cream style corn, scraped off the cobb, some rolls or biscuits. I forgot to get carrots or did I?Tomorrow I will grill the pork loinya'll come on down and eat, I actually have too much food.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 okay but you'd have to teach me you're regions cooking style.
hornist 1,261 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Well in Sweden they eat Lutefisk, maybe the right word would be lye fish and also Kalle's caviar. In north they also might eat reindeer.Hey Joey you said to like cheeses, do you know halloumi and have you ever tried to fry it in the grill. Delicious.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 yeah I won't eat either. don't like fish, and hate deer.as for the cheese I'd love to give it a try.
alicebrallice 134 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 lololol then you'd love surströmming (soured herring).... as for halloumi... try it for god's sake! it's absolutely delicious.
KK 3,313 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I had buffalo burgers at a cookout a few weeks ago. They were deliciousBuffalo burgers are delightful stuff. Loved them from the day I first tried them!taste's pretty much like beef to me, it's a bit leaner, but leaner beef is less flavorful that fatty. the best hamburger/buffalo/bison is always the 73-27, or 70-30.I tend to cook by what I find at the meat dept. yesterday they had english roasts on sale and since it's been a couple of months since I fixed one I decided that looked great. I also got a beautiful pork loin end for 3 bucks.I caramelized 2 Vidalia onions. I halved them and cooked them down but I didn't want them to cook away like they do when cut small.I seared the roast on all 6 sides after I seasoned and floured it. I'm actually braising it in chicken stock, beef stock, and for a bit more richness a can of consomme soup. It will cook all afternoon. we'll have mashed potatoes, fresh squash, some sautee'd whole green beans cooked al dente. Those are for Dave, I won't eat them. Green Beans need to be cooked for hours before I'll eat them. Of course we'll have home made cream style corn, scraped off the cobb, some rolls or biscuits. I forgot to get carrots or did I?Tomorrow I will grill the pork loinya'll come on down and eat, I actually have too much food.Wow Joey...considering I never really visit this thread, I never knew you were such an expert with food.It's funny, my dad is a gourmet chef and yet I know next to nothing about food or his career for that matter (he never cooked much at home anyways)....
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 the difference between your dad and I is he's a chef, I'm just a cook. I don't have the temperament to be a chef.
KK 3,313 Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Sure, but I was never trying to compare you to my dad. I was just using him to emphasize the extent of my ignorance when it comes to food.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 I know, I'm just stating that your dad has something I lack.If I had lots of cash I'd build a deluxe kitchen, gas and electric plus infrared stove. I'd love an oven that could heat to 1000 degrees and a gas burner that can get me to 7 or 8 hundred degrees for wok cooking.KK I'm hardly an expert, but I do know what I like, I will try certain things, but I won't try some things others here will eat.And let me say I will never, EVER try chitterlings.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 I won't eat tripe either (organs are something I've made clear I won't eat), which is not chitterlings, chitterlings are animal intestines that have to be cleaned over and over to remove feces then cooked. I've smelled them and that alone made me nearly spew.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Ah, I thought for the longest time that tripe was intestine, but I guess it's cow stomach. It's pretty much flavorless, just adds texture to whatever you're eating.I'm not a huge fan of liver, but I do like turkey heart. Organs have a similar dry mineraly taste to them.
Brónach 1,330 Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Ah, I thought for the longest time that tripe was intestine, but I guess it's cow stomach. It's pretty much flavorless, just adds texture to whatever you're eating.I'm a fan of this. Madrid style. They know their heavy foods.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 I mean if you think about tripe in terms of it being a cow's stomach lining, yes it sounds disgusting. If you know what it tastes like and how it can be used in dishes, then no.Same can said of a burger if you describe it as a chunk of a cow's ass on a bun. My Cambodian friend's parents don't eat American food because of the way it looks. Burgers and pizza are a big no for them.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,392 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Posted June 19, 2012 My Cambodian friend's parents don't eat American food because of the way it looks. Burgers and pizza are a big no for them.Pizza is not American food Koray!
Brónach 1,330 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 True."Pizza" must be a concept as old as bread itself. There are mentions of flat bread with stuff on it since antiquity. It's was/is tipically Mediterranean. As for pizza understood as having tomato, that ingredient still lied at the other side of the sea. When tomatoes were accepted around here as food they started to be used in pizzas. So if you ask me pizza isn't a food originated in America, even though a common ingredient today in pizzas is American.Edit: An Italian friend in the room next to mine agrees.
Wojo 2,458 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Pizza may have been invented in Italy but it never became a bona fide food group there the way it did in America to become a staple of the childhood, college kid, bachelor, bar, and dating ways of life. I'm pretty sure I haven't gone a week in my life without pizza at least once since I was 15.
Brónach 1,330 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Usamericans turned it into fast food.Pizza ain't fast food.
Wojo 2,458 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 I never said pizza was fast food. A frozen pizza takes about 20 minutes to cook in the oven. Any pizzeria takes (what seems like a lot) longer than that to bring a hot pie from the kitchen.Granted, some pizzerias keep cheese pizza hot in the oven, and then take about five minutes to cook your selected toppings into it for a fast lunch. Or they just have a wide variety of finished pizzas cooked under heat lamps, like a Pizza Hut buffet, Sbarros, Villa Pizza, etc. That's cheating, but any burger joint that gives you a burger in five minutes has had it under a heat lamp for hours, too.Pizza ain't fast food.It will be now. Blame the Dutch.http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/lets-pizza-vending-machine-coming-to-us_7616082
Wojo 2,458 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Pizza in three minutes! It'll do for pizza what Keurig did for coffee and tea!
alicebrallice 134 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 makin pizza and listening to hook as we speak:)
Incanus 5,891 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Having a tomato, basil and mozzarella salad seasoned with herbs and pesto. Simple but delicious. alicebrallice 1
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Pizza may have been invented in Italy but it never became a bona fide food group there the way it did in America to become a staple of the childhood, college kid, bachelor, bar, and dating ways of life.This.
Brónach 1,330 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Yet it's Italian. It was popular there before the USA. Flat breads are a Mediterranean thing.I'm sure there must some good native food from USA that isn't imported from somewhere else. Cornbread, turkey dishes. Chocolate. Tiswin. Whatever.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 How it's made has been Americanized. There are certain expectations that go with it.
Brónach 1,330 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Americanized in which why?Maybe you make your pizzas in a particular way and just assume everybody else does it your way.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Americanized in which why?Maybe you make your pizzas in a particular way and just assume everybody else does it your way.Americanized in that a typical pizza from Papa John's is not gonna look or taste the same as one you order in a pizzeria in Italy.
Brónach 1,330 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Americanized in which why?Maybe you make your pizzas in a particular way and just assume everybody else does it your way.Americanized in that a typical pizza from Papa John's is not gonna look or taste the same as one you order in a pizzeria in Italy.But that doesn't make pizza American. That makes these pizzas American. It's like saying English is an American language.Maybe I just have too much of a phylogenetic mind. I've had similar arguments before.
alicebrallice 134 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Kiwi time.either you don't eat or it's fruit/berries! come here and have some homemade pizza. triple cheese! I just woke up in my fat pants from crashing on the sofa after that fat shock. now I need to go for a jog lol.
Brónach 1,330 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Kiwi time.either you don't eat or it's fruit/berries! come here and have some homemade pizza. triple cheese! I just woke up in my fat pants from crashing on the sofa after that fat shock. now I need to go for a jog lol.Oogh. Good idea.
Wojo 2,458 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Maybe I just have too much of a phylogenetic mind. I've had similar arguments before.Forget it. For a snot-nosed little see you next tuesday to claim he's from Mars instead of establishing his geographic perspective with respect to "America," perhaps to justify the insignificance of his country of 4M with respect to a nation of 300M, all I can offer is that you shove your phylogenetic up your ganges catena ass.
Brónach 1,330 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 That is not why I said that, but funny nonetheless.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Americanized in which why?Maybe you make your pizzas in a particular way and just assume everybody else does it your way.Americanized in that a typical pizza from Papa John's is not gonna look or taste the same as one you order in a pizzeria in Italy.But that doesn't make pizza American. That makes these pizzas American. It's like saying English is an American language.Maybe I just have too much of a phylogenetic mind. I've had similar arguments before.I'm not disputing that, it's what I'm saying!
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