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    Rimsky reacted to Score in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    I'll answer, since I also consider JW's work for the first two trilogies superior to his work for the third trilogy. It's not really suspicious if you take into account that the movies for which the scores were written are separated by decades, and in the mean time JW has both grown older and changed his style. It's no coincidence that Superman and E.T. are stylistically much closer to the original SW trilogy than the last SW trilogy is, as they were written in the same years. 
     
    It's totally possible to compare JW's works, taken as pieces of music independent of their movies, with other musical works written by other composers and for different media. In this regard, I believe JW absolutely deserves to be included in the list of the great composers (not just "movie composers") of all time, the list that includes people like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, and so on. I even consider him superior to several of the great "classical" (in the broad sense) composers. This does not mean that every single 5-minute piece of his output is a masterpiece, or that everything he wrote is at the same level.
     
     
    By the way, just to play the game, here is my ranking of the SW scores:
     
    V and IV (more or less equivalent, although different), I, VI, III (the last reel is amazing), II, VII, IX, VIII 
     
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    Rimsky got a reaction from Courtney Sees Ghosts in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    I have no love or warm nostalgic feelings for Jar-Jar Binks or anything related to that character, but I still think that Jar-Jar’s music is genius to an almost Prokofiev-like level.
     
    I know most things concerning art typically are relative, subjective and so on and so forth, but I am of the firm belief that JW’s themes and motives from episode 1-6 objectively are greater, more inspired and more interesting than the themes from 7-9 and the Obi-theme - in the same way that Mozart’s material is better than Dittersdorf’s or that the motives from Wagner’s Tristan are greater than the ones from Das Liebesverbot…
     
    And I don’t blame JW - who on earth could be inspired by episode 7-9…
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    Rimsky got a reaction from DarthDementous in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    I have no love or warm nostalgic feelings for Jar-Jar Binks or anything related to that character, but I still think that Jar-Jar’s music is genius to an almost Prokofiev-like level.
     
    I know most things concerning art typically are relative, subjective and so on and so forth, but I am of the firm belief that JW’s themes and motives from episode 1-6 objectively are greater, more inspired and more interesting than the themes from 7-9 and the Obi-theme - in the same way that Mozart’s material is better than Dittersdorf’s or that the motives from Wagner’s Tristan are greater than the ones from Das Liebesverbot…
     
    And I don’t blame JW - who on earth could be inspired by episode 7-9…
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    Rimsky got a reaction from MaxTheHouseelf in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    I have no love or warm nostalgic feelings for Jar-Jar Binks or anything related to that character, but I still think that Jar-Jar’s music is genius to an almost Prokofiev-like level.
     
    I know most things concerning art typically are relative, subjective and so on and so forth, but I am of the firm belief that JW’s themes and motives from episode 1-6 objectively are greater, more inspired and more interesting than the themes from 7-9 and the Obi-theme - in the same way that Mozart’s material is better than Dittersdorf’s or that the motives from Wagner’s Tristan are greater than the ones from Das Liebesverbot…
     
    And I don’t blame JW - who on earth could be inspired by episode 7-9…
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    Rimsky reacted to BB-8 in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    You're not alone with this Bruckner association (see previous posts).
     
    I wonder when JW (or rather Bill Ross) will discover the Wagner tuba?
     
     
     
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    Rimsky got a reaction from Loert in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    Is it just me or is the obi-theme a mix of Bruckner’s 4th (that even starts with string tremolo and a horn solo…) and Siegfried’s theme by Wagner?
     
    I am personally not a big fan of the Obi-theme. It seems empty to me somehow. 
    Themes like f.x. Leia, Force and Yoda has some kind of inner narrative and direction in my ears while themes like Obis and Rey’s seem cold and directionless to me.
     
     
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    Rimsky got a reaction from BB-8 in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    Is it just me or is the obi-theme a mix of Bruckner’s 4th (that even starts with string tremolo and a horn solo…) and Siegfried’s theme by Wagner?
     
    I am personally not a big fan of the Obi-theme. It seems empty to me somehow. 
    Themes like f.x. Leia, Force and Yoda has some kind of inner narrative and direction in my ears while themes like Obis and Rey’s seem cold and directionless to me.
     
     
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    Rimsky got a reaction from MaxTheHouseelf in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    Is it just me or is the obi-theme a mix of Bruckner’s 4th (that even starts with string tremolo and a horn solo…) and Siegfried’s theme by Wagner?
     
    I am personally not a big fan of the Obi-theme. It seems empty to me somehow. 
    Themes like f.x. Leia, Force and Yoda has some kind of inner narrative and direction in my ears while themes like Obis and Rey’s seem cold and directionless to me.
     
     
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