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I for one am excited to see what the biggest film composer since John Williams will do with this slowly decaying franchise.

Much anger and darkness I sense in you.

Friends, if you are so inclined, please join me tomorrow, Sunday January 5th, for a 30 day fast from all music written after 1900. We can listen to modern music again on February 4th. I guarantee your spirit will thank you for it in this dark world of ours! @Stefancos I challenge you in particular!

$2-4 million USD + negotiated royalties And that’s for Zimmer and Williams. Zimmer makes more these days, though John Williams makes a crap ton from a back-log library of insane royalties. The drop off is pretty steep from the top. The next biggest will probably make less than half that. Shore and Giacchino are probably in the sub $1m per picture. Easily. Down at the new known composers like Daniel Pemberton/Joseph Trapanese you’re probably looking at $25-100k per picture, depending on the picture. Down at the wannabes and newbies you’re looking at $50 or $1,000 or $2,500 per project.

Yup

Disney doesn’t dole out final cut rights. Either it’s Disney or it’s mutual (conditional on meeting release date obligations).

Your reasoning is terrible and divorced from the reality of film making. But at least you get right that the fault lies squarely with the director that signs his name in the credits. He’s got a nascent $250 million deal with WB on the line, he’s not going to rock-the-boat and sour his reputation as the director who works well with suits. Whatever power he has, he is in a sticky spot and can’t exercise it without huge repercussions. And I don’t get the impression he is courageous enough to go down fighting for what he thinks is right. That’s the problem with JJ. He always delivers what the studio asks for.

His bosses are typical board-room people. TFA got slammed for playing too safe. So they said give this guy creative freedom. TLJ got slammed for being too wild for Star Wars. So they said rein JJ in and do some fan service. These people are basically dumber than a toddler with very high salaries. TROS got slammed for being too much fan-service, so the next trilogy is going to be some “fresh-blood” controlled by one guy and told to make it his own Star Wars. If Dune does well, it’ll be Denis Villenefrenchist and it’ll be a more serious and gritty Star Wars.

They will reboot it in 4 years with Junkie XL and no one will remember this trilogy. We live in an era of disposable media,

He’s upper mid-range success, renowned in the industry for being easy to work with. He’s THE studio director. So you are both wrong and right at the same time. He probably had less input than Rian, because he is easy to work with, and two, he fucked it up by being a doormat, so it is in fact his fault. He signed his name in the end instead of quitting.

I’ve heard through my grapevine over the last 6-8 months that things were more contentious than usual with the production and post-production of this film...so this particular bit of rumor dovetails with what I’ve heard. It certainly could be folks from BadRobot trying to do damage control. But that in and of itself tells you more about the production and the working relationship between the parties involved than anything. There’s no usual unified front here. 🇨🇳

Rey March of the Resistance ... everything else.

They hired a guy who un-ironically likes the accordion. What did they expect?

No.

I see the resemblance...

That doesn’t say much though. Williams is a showman, and a good one too. He knows how to keep a secret. Would they sit in a room and not talk about the character? Sounds like a poor collaboration.

They may not have decided that Rey had a relationship to Palpatine at first, but they could have said it’s a possibility and John put a little out in there for them.

It is poetry! It rhymes! It is poetry! It rhymes!

Rey Skywalker. It’s a very beautiful moment because the last Palpatine has extinguished the entire Skywalker family line and now moves into their house, starts wearing their clothes, eating their food, and using their name due to their high social credit score.

They don’t call me The Maestro’s Shrunk for nuthin.

I work for Big Pencil.

So while everyone is saying Rey's relationship to Palpaneverdie is retconned, do we have evidence to the contrary in the form of Rey's theme? I mean...clearly the theme is a happy-sad evolution of Emperor's theme?

That’s a silly vote!