mxsch
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Title says it all.
If I'm correct, this all started with '93 Anthology of SW, then Raiders in 1995, E.T. in 1996, RCA 2CD's of OT and so on
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Which is your favourite/best one?
Suggestions are welcomed
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I wonder why JW re-recorded whole end credits piece from ANH but end up using only beginning with coda for ending.
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57 minutes ago, Thor said:
I once created an iTunes playlist with Goldsmith 'setpiece tracks' (both action and less action-oriented setpieces). It seems to have disappeared, but I can assemble it again and take a screen grab.
[Edit: Here's one, quickly assembled. There are more to be added, but this is a great start. By setpiece, I mean tracks that aren't main or end titles, but action sequences that almost work as their own independent composition:]
I would add The Hijacking from AFO, that cue literally got me into Jerry.
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I'm new to him so feel free to write your suggestions.
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What way do you prefer?
I'm really want to start physical collection, but problem here that I don't have that much money plus shipping to my country is problematic so I'm stick with digital because this is the only way for me now, unfortunately.
And another question, how do you prefer to listen to the scores after the first listen?
I mean for example from start to beginning, minus alternate versions/film versions, shuffle and e.t.c.
Do you like to make playlists?
For me the most "playlist-able" materials are middle to long action cues since I'm a big fan of stuff like that.
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1 hour ago, Nick Parker said:
Runnin' is another great highlight for me, even with some cringey lines, the idea of merging orchestra with rap is incredible.
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I like him so much, because of his unique style and great incorporation of beats.
His scores for Creed 1, 2, Black Panther, The Mandalorian and Tenet are absolute bangers.
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38 minutes ago, Thor said:
Those are very broad parameters. I would also need to know what style we're talking about. I can glean from the composers you mention that you're primarily looking for orchestral action scores, perhaps? Also, while 'action' is considered a genre, you can also have scores in other genres that have a busy soundscape, be it westerns or fantasy films or sci fis of whatever. Do they count too?
A few off the top of my head that are orchestral, have a thematic base, are not by any of the composers you mention, have lengthy bombastic tracks and that are action-oriented in sound:
ENTHIRAN - Rahman
THE EAGLE - Örvarsson
CONAN THE BARBARIAN - Poledouris
STARSHIP TROOPERS - Poledouris
YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES - Broughton
HARD RAIN - Young
THE MONKEY KING - Young
THE GOONIES - Grusin
MUSIC FROM THE FILMS OF STEVEN SEAGAL - Frank
FIRE BIRDS - D. Newman
THE PHANTOM - D. Newman
THE COUNT OF MONTE CHRISTO - Shearmur
DEMOLITION MAN - Goldenthal
BATMAN FOREVER & ROBIN - Goldenthal
FINAL FANTASY - Goldenthal
THE SEA HAWK - Korngold
ROBIN HOOD - Korngold
WE'RE NO ANGELS - Fenton
TORPEDO - Hannes de Mayer
WILLOW - Horner
THE ROCKETEER - Horner
THE MASK OF ZORRO - Horner
AVATAR - Horner
WATERWORLD - Howard
DINOSAUR - Howard
VERTICAL LIMIT - Howard
HIDALGO - Howard
THE WIND AND THE LION - Goldsmith
THE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY - Goldsmith
FIRST BLOOD - Goldsmith
KING SOLOMON'S MINES - Goldsmith
THE MUMMY - Goldsmith
TOTAL RECALL - Goldsmith
THE EDGE - Goldsmith
KULL THE CONQUEROR - Joel Goldsmith
IRON WILL - McNeely
SQUANTO - McNeely
SOLDIER - McNeely
THE TIME MACHINE - Badelt
AGE OF CONAN series - Haugen
RAGNAROK - Beite
TWISTER - Mancina
SPEED - Mancina
THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE - Steiner
KING KONG - Steiner
ROBIN HOOD - Kamen
THE THREE MUSKETEERS - Kamen
THE THIEF OF BAGDAD - Rozsa
SHIPWRECKED - Doyle
BRAVE - Doyle
RUBINROT - Kölmel
DAYLIGHT - Edelman
THE QUEST - Edelman
DRAGONHEART - Edelman
LAWNMOWER MAN 2 - Folk
ALEXANDER NEVSKY - Prokofiev
NATE AND HAYES - Jones
AROUND THE WORLD in 80 DAYS - Jones
Yeah I've meant orchestral scores, any genres count, thank you so much!
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I'm looking for action scores with good themes and not dull underscore. It will be great if it includes couple or more lengthy bombastic tracks.
All composers, except Davis, Debney, Silvestri, Elfman, Arnold, Shore, Powell and JW because I've listened all from them with this criterias.
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1 hour ago, The Illustrious Jerry said:
Revenge of the Sith *really* applies the Emperor's theme in some fantastic dramatic settings, particularly here with what is surely one of the heaviest, most stretched out statements in the saga. Also interesting to note that it flows into some Ludlow-esque strings at 1:52.
Yeah, ROTS use of the theme is very good too. Second after ROTJ of course.
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I can't even describe how much I love this theme.
And The Senate himself too.
It is so simple but yet so powerful and so suiting for the character.
I love it even over Imperial March.
I like TPM arrangements, but ROTJ ones are of course the best and most grandiose, esp. cue when he dies.
What do you think about it?
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Updated, more is on the way
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Title says it all.
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2 hours ago, crumbs said:
He must have been really unhappy with the film credits
But really, it's commonplace, especially in SW. I don't think any of JW's credits suites have remained totally intact since TPM (not even sure that one isn't edited).
It still baffles me how AOTC ditched that seriously awesome Imperial March/Anakin's Theme coda.
TPM end credits are edited too.
1 hour ago, Spider-Fal said:Well, he seems to have toyed with several versions, with that alternate. Unused credits, the gelb versions etc.
What is the "gelb version"? Always wanted to know
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2 hours ago, GerateWohl said:
mxsch, I could not agree more to what you write. The only one of the sequel scores with a proper album presentation is episode 7. The episode 8 OST album is too much concentrating on repeating old material including episode 7. Episode 9 feels completely splintered to me, just like the film.
Apart from the nice music probably the worst scoring moment of all nine films.
Anyway, I still hope that there will be the complete score presentations of the three films including most of the unused but recorded music for episode 9. The scores are to me mucially great and out of this world but the albums of episode 8 and 9 do not do justice to the original scores.
Exactly. TFA have a very nice album. TROS have like two hours more of unreleased music and album seems to be most butchered among sequels. Lack of proper opening is a big failure too.
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1 minute ago, Not Mr. Big said:
TFA and TROS are fantastic scores that rival the PT and the OT in their best moments, TLJ has some good moments. I see everything post-2008 as a bonus Williams music and it's hard to complain about a bonus trilogy of Star Wars music.
Falcon Flight is absolute banger btw. One of my favourite tracks ever for sure.
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I have very uncertain relationship with this three scores
On one hand, I like them, but on the other hand due to a very big chunk of music still yet to be released it's not clicking on me completely. I know about Force Awakens LTP leak and TLJ isolated score, listened to both, but I'm not a very big fan of music edited to picture.
There is just no proper release for me, since I'm not a fan of standard OST albums because of edits and stuff, with very rare exceptions.
And there are some really strange moments, like overusing Force theme in TLJ, attaching Luke and Leia theme to Lando and his daughter reunion, this is like what, family reunion theme now?
Something is just missing for me, because OT is OT, prequels have my absolutely favourite period of JW in terms of style, esp. with all this bombastic action cues, but sequels are... OK?
Plus lack of Abbey Road and LSO is important too.
What do you think about them in comparison to other six JW scores?
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As far as I remember it was postponed due to No Time To Die expected release, any update on it's status? With all this stuff with virus it can be a very nice time to release it since NTTD was delayed like three times.
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On original album and '93 Anthology after Imperial March there is Yoda theme, but on RCA it is continued as written.
Is this an alternate or just piece from other track?
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13 minutes ago, Falstaft said:
In case you're really looking to get into the weeds here, this is a nice reference:
Oh, I've noticed one thing in your guide of themes.
It seems that Anthem of Evil is missing in the list of concert
arrangements.
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From 2:39 to 2:47
Or there is nothing special about it?
3 hours ago, Falstaft said:We'd love to help @mxsch, but like @Jay says it's hard to know exactly what you're thinking of without more examples, or more specificity within the example you're citing. It could be a cadence, like @Jurassic Sharksays, but that's a pretty foundational aspect of musical organization. That said, if you're curious, you might get a kick out of this: https://mtosmt.org/issues/mto.13.19.4/mto.13.19.4.lehman.html...
1 hour ago, Datameister said:It's called an orchestra. It makes pretty sounds!
(Sorry for the snark. As others have said, yeah, we need a lot more information. What specific moment are your asking about, and what element of it? Instrumentation? Harmony? Melody?)
In what other genres of music you into?
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I'm also in rock, metal, electronics (mostly synthwave), but now I'm listening almost only soundtracks and planning to roll into classical music because I've understand how much I love orchestral music, but metal still kicks ass btw