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I've never seen this film or heard the score, but I'm curious about both. All thanks to the positive feedback from fans. Besides I need more Horner scores in my collection.

So he didn't adapt Doyle's theme? That doesn't surprise me.

Impressive animated short and tribute of the 75 year old character. I agree that the Williams march should've carried the whole 2 minutes. The Zimmer piece sounded like a pop rock song in comparison. Didn't really sound like it was performed by an 80 piece orchestra to me.

Well speaking of Goldsmith... Though this wasn't scored by Goldsmith, Frizzell did use a piece from Goldsmith's "Alien" , which he calls "Ripley's Theme" I know both the score and film is more of a swashbuckling adventure score/movie, but it had it's chilling moments (.i.e."The Crypt" and "Discoveries")

Yeah The Fly II score is pretty good, but the movie itself was a weak follow up to Cronenberg's original, imho,

Hope this won't be another Halloween II reissue fiasco with the bonus tracks consisting of remixes of previously released material. I'll wait for a review before I decide to purchase it. I don't own the original 1989 Varese album, but would like to own this score.

Agreed. Though as much as I want the score I have yet to purchase or own it. I'm still holding out for a pressed CD. Instead of the digital album/ Amazon CDR format that's available, but good to know that someone else up here likes Drake's TDKR score.

Thanks. It was a tradition I started doing 3 years ago, when my horror scores began increasing.

I'm very much looking forward to reading what you have to say about the concert Thor.

So you didn't get to meet Elfman? Glad you enjoyed yourself Croc. Sounds like it was an amazing experience. Hopefully this will get a CD release someday. I would love to hear Elfman's new arrangements. Since I'm unable to go to any of the concerts.

Since it's October. I started my ShocktoberFest (for lack of a better word) of scores in chronological order of US release date. Wednesday Oct. 2nd... Planet Of The Apes (1968) - Jerry Goldsmith Halloween (1978) 20th Anniversary - John Carpenter Alien (Intrada) 2-CD - Jerry Goldsmith Thursday Oct. 3rd... John Carpenter's The Fog (1980) 2-CD Silva Screen - John Carpenter Friday The 13th (1980) (LLLR) - Harry Manfredini Friday The 13th Part 2 (LLLR) - Harry Manfredini Halloween II (1981) 30th Anniversary - John Carpenter In Association with Alan Howarth Friday Oct. 4th... Poltergeist (FSM) - Jerry Goldsmith Friday The 13th Part 3 (LLLR) - Harry Manfredini Halloween III: Season Of The Witch (25th Anniversary) - John Carpenter In Association With Alan Howarth Twilight Zone: The Movie (FSM) - Jerry Goldsmith Friday The 13th: The Final Chapter (LLLR) - Harry Manfredini Monday Oct. 7th...

Looking forward to both titles coming out next week, but I'll probably purchase Black Beauty with the other Elfman title LLLR's releasing this month as well. I'm hoping to get Khan's John Harrison's "Day Of The Dead" score this month in time for Halloween. That's a pretty good deal for a 2-CD.

I'll do my best to give my thoughts on all three scores. Okay here we go... I can’t decide which is my favorite. All hit a different spot for me. I'll just say I enjoyed each score in it's own way. Speed and Bad Boys hold some sentimental value b/c I used to watch both movies many times as a teen. The scores were some of the highlights in both movies. I’ve always thought Mancina’s score elevated the suspense, action, and thrills in Speed. I know some think it’s a little too synthetic at times (for example during the evil Payne moments) but I think it adds a bit of edginess and paranoia to the score and film. It also highlights the cat & mouse game between Jack and Payne. The 6 note main theme is very catchy and captures the heroics and bravery of Jack Traven. As well as the anxiety of the situations he’s put in throughout the movie. I also enjoy the secondary theme that’s more dramatic. That theme brings heart to the movie, imo. I feel it represents the survival and innocence of the frightened passengers. It also portrays the relationship between Jack and Anne. It’s very touching and wraps up the score nicely. The motif for Payne is very textural but unnerving and menacing. The action moments are the highlights of the album for me (“Rush Hour” (this track does a stellar job of capturing the chaos of competing against rush hour traffic, imho), “Jack Jumps On The Bus”, “City Streets”, “The Gap” (has the right amount of anticipation and tension needed for the scene) “The Dolly”, “Jack Under Bus”, “The Rescue” (the music during the moment Jack and Anne exit the bus was breathtaking, imo), “Getting On The Train”, “Fight On Train”. I enjoy the score overall very much. This is a score I can listen to repeatedly. I know Mancina’s Bad Boys is an MV/RCP type of score, which is frowned upon up here and many film score sites, but it works b/c it’s composed for a Bruckheimer/Bay movie. I actually prefer the MV/RCP scores of the 90s. The hip hop-esque main theme is very fitting for the two leads. It’s at times cool, hip, and even comical echoing the attitude and bromance between Martin and Smith. I also like the affectionate theme for Julie with the Spanish guitar, I believe. Which like Mancina did for Speed added sympathy to the score and film. It sort of reminds me of Kamen’s little bromance theme for Riggs and Murtaugh in the Lethal Weapons. I love the use of it with electric guitars in the middle of “Hanger Shootout”. It‘s dramatically effective in “Pouchet’s Death” as well. The villain theme for Pouchet (with the electric guitar) was perfect for this kind of score and film. And even brings some level of menace to some moments in the score. You can hear shades of this particular theme for Cyrus the Virus in Con Air, which hopefully someday will get an expanded release. The action material is great, imo, especially during “Heist“, “Escape From Club Hell/Ether Chase” “Foot chase”, “Hanger Shootout”. Mancina does a good job of imitating the essence of a Bay/Bruckheimer 90s action movie. I know a lot of people might think it’s garbage. To me it’s a just a fun 90s action buddy cop score that compliments the film nicely. I’ve only listen to Speed 2 three times now. I’ve enjoyed each listen. Mancina’s score doesn’t feel like a rehash of the original,which is a good thing. Even though his main theme from Speed makes a few appearances letting the listeners know this is a Speed movie, but it doesn‘t hog the score from the new themes/motif. His main theme for Alex is very fitting. It comes off as if Alex is even more of a thrillseeker than Jack was from the original. I like how the original main theme plays off of Alex’s theme in the adventurous “Motorcycle Chase”. It sort of plays as a variation of the original main theme. Jack Sparrow’s theme sort of reminds me of Alex’s theme from that particular track anyway. This theme gets a workout on the album. The Caribbean Cruise theme for the Seabourn Legend sounds like cruise muzak that I’d expect to hear on a cruise ship. It has this Jamaican feel to it. Mancina seamlessly made that piece into a romantic theme for Anne and Alex (in “Alex and Anne”) but then segues into Caribbean cruise muzak as they step aboard the Seabourn Legend. He plays the theme more alarming in “The Harbor”. Geiger’s catchy villain theme is more comic book-y, compared to Payne’s more textural theme in the original. Mancina also makes great use of this theme through out even using it to highlight some of the predicaments of the cruise. At the beginning of the “Engine Room”, where Geiger’s theme is introduced, It sounds like it might’ve been temp tracked with Williams’ JFK. The same piece Under Siege and The Usual Suspects used for temp. That’s not a complaint just something I noticed. There’s an emotional theme for Alex and Anne that’s introduced in the middle of “Last Lifeboat” that’s used efficiently throughout the score. I also like his variation of “The Gap” (from the first score) during “Tanker Turn”. It made me actually care about what was going on in that scene during the movie. The score is very well paced for a 70 minute album and never drags, imo. The score gets more exciting as it reaches it's conclusion, imho. Mancina's score unlike the movie is a great follow up to Speed. It's also a better score than what the film deserved,imo.

Strange coincidence I was listening to Speed 2 this morning for the first time. I enjoyed it very much. It's a very propulsive and fun adventure score and the themes resonate with me. I enjoyed the first score as well.

I know I might be in the minority regarding the interest of this score, but it looks like Christopher Drake's The Dark Knight Returns won't be coming out to coincide with it's bluray release next month. Pity. But both Elfman titles, Day of the Dead, and the Black Friday titles have my interest.

How is this set, by the way. I've never heard any of it and can't remember anyone sharing opinions. I have yet to discover Copland. In greater depth, I mean. Karol I enjoy the Box set every time I listen to it. I think it's mostly for fans of the F13 movies, of horror scores, and of Manfredini. Other than that it might not be everyone's cup of tea. LLLR used the film stems of I-V from the dvd I believe b/c the masters are lost. So there isn't any alternates or dialed out music that was available. Manfredini held on to the masters for part VI though. So that one might have the best sound. But for something taken from film stems the sound for parts I-V sound great also, imho. Part 3 and 4 reused a lot of material from parts 1 and 2, which made the album of those particular entries. Manfredini was barely available for part 3 b/c he was working on a musical at the time. So he mostly scored the 3rd act. I don't know why part IV was mostly rehashed. Manfredini was available for that one. Most of the new material came from the first 5 -10 minutes and the last 20 minutes of that film. I guess TPTB liked the temp more than Manfredini's new material. I hope someday the masters are found of IV so I could hear Manfredini's original material. I know it's highly unlikely, but I can still dream. Manfredini started with a small orchestra that gets bigger each film (up to part six anyway). The scores mostly highlight the tension of the killer lurking as well as the kills. I think each score captures the personalities (for lack of a better word) of each film. It's a testament to Manfredini skills that he makes these films seem like more than just a mass murderer killing a bunch of horny teens (especially his scores for V and VI) . Btw, if you're interested Part I is still available, but seperate. That one gives me a very Herrmann-esque vibe, but I really enjoy all of the scores. Ever since this was released I've been making it a tradition to listen to it every Friday the 13th.

Mine arrived yeasterday afternoon. Have yet to listen to it. And yep I double dipped this. I own the Varese Deluxe Edition before this one.

Oddly I'm watching The Departed on AMC right now. A shame about his memory eventhough he is 76. I agree with Quint that' Mr.Nicholson more than earned his retirement.