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I just want to say that I have now several times listened to crumbs KOTCS version (after deleting the inserted source music and concert pieces) and find it an excellent listen. Especially the extended Jungle chase is much improved versus the album version; now the "funny" inserts with Mutts music are welcome and not irritating any more. But there are also a lot of small things like the Henry senior theme that make the soundtrack much richer IMO. I am now looking forward to an official complete release of this music as much as to complete editions of the other Indys and find KOTCS a worthy successor to the first three.

I remember how I listened the first time to the last Crusade CD in 1989, I was very annoyed by the clicking in "indys first adventure". I always thought that some player was involuntary tapping the rhythm with a foot or so, since the clicking came and went and was mostly present in the more lively, rhythmic passages. Now I realise that it may have been the clicktrack, but why is it not present over the entire cue?

1) No blu-ray disc forces you to connect the player to the internet to see its content. This is just plain wrong. 2) As I said, you confuse the optional restriction over component video output (this is where the flag comes into play) with mandatory internet connection. I repeat: You can watch the full content of every blu-ray in full HD without even having internet connection in the house. The BD-Live standard offers additional functions (that I don´t care about). You have every right to be paranoid and entertain conspiracy theories, but please do not confuse other people with obvious misinformation. By the way I fully agree with your criticism of downloadable media. Since Downloads are offered as an alternative to DVD and BLu-ray this is one reason more for me to support physical media. This is a perfect example how quickly a totally absurd concept spreads through the internet and gets a life of its own (see my post above). Again: There is no such thing as a blu-ray player that has to be connected to the internet to play everything on the disc without degradation. Really!

Blu-ray offers the same advantage for old B/W movies, since those are filmed on 35mm film with a potentially even higher resolution than Blu-ray. For the moment, only a few B/W movies are available, but old color movies like "How the west was won" and "The Searchers" show how good old movies can look like. "Casablance" on HDDVD seemed to look excellent; in December it will be published on BLu-ray, too.

In your very special situation, blu-ray may be problematic. I don´t know, since I don´t want to have a PC in my living room and thereform have no use for HTPC. But the notion, that the quality can be reduced to DVD without internet is absolutely incorrect. Never heard of it and don´t know where this comes from; possibly some remaining FUD from the format war? What is possible, that one day the COMPONENT Video output may be reduced in resolution, but for the moment component still has 1080 full HD. Except with a few HDDVDs, that by mistake had this restriction put on. I can't wait for some of you to get out in the real world, pay for your home, car, utilities, buy food, etc, then you can put the purchase of all these goodies in perspective, and you can find out just where your money really needs to go. It is a matter of setting priorities. I have a family (2 kids), a house, a (old) car, and all this cost money, of course. But I prefer spending money on my home theater instead of buying a new flashy car or computer or instead of going out to dinner all the time and so on. And I don´t always buy the best and newest and expensive gear. My Processor is 6 years old, my amp was bought used, with bluray I waited until a player was available for less then 400 Euros, I buy selective movies and use special offers (always unter 20 Euros). But of course I agree, there must be SOME disposible income to entertain such a hobby (or any hobby). But I am writing this in a board where people don´t hesitate to spent 125 $ for a Superman box set and 50$ for an Indiana Jones set. As I said, it is mostly a matter of priorities.

Unless said film lover is also a lover of privacy. I'll upgrade when there's a way around this: I don´t see where I endanger my privacy with Blu-ray. Nobody forces you to use BD-Live via Internet, which would be the only aspect where privacy might be a problem. Just keep the player away from the internet, then you have the same situation with DVD: a player, a cable, a screen. Unless said film lover is also a lover of PIRACY. Then of course BD+ might be a nuisance.

I'm a 'true' lover of film, yet I see no need to upgrade just yet. Does that make me a lesser fan? I have a very good cinema suite already and movies play wonderfully when the lights are dimmed. I don't need Blu-ray to enhance the experience. I think the early adopters of the new tech are merely the true technophiles out there, indeed any enthusiasm one may have for film has no baring whatsoever on whether or not one should purchase the shiny new way of playing it. There is no way dvd as a medium can be criticised in terms of visual and audio quailty, since it is so clearly excellent in every respect. DVD is far from excellent visual quality, I just described the artefacts that annoy extremely when watching larger screens. Of course you don´t NEED blu-ray, but once you are used to it, there is no way back. DVD is video with a lot of compression artefacts, blu-ray is like film (except a few misguided transfers). I am not a technophile: I have no cell phone, no fast internet account, no great car. I love films and want to see them like meant by the filmmakers. The technology is just a means to achieve this. I do not buy BD for movies like XXX or Stealth, I buy it for "The Godfather" and "Blade Runner". Of course I do not want to say by this that you are a lesser fan. What I want to say is: I am sure that a true film lover will want to switch to BD, once he/she has experienced BD under cinema-approaching conditions (not some 37`plasma). If he does switch, will depend on things like his screen size and disposable income, of course.

I bought a Blu-ray Player last November, together with my Panasonic AE2000 projector. On my 2,55m wide screen, watched at a distance of 3-3,5m to recreate the cinema experience, blu-ray are vastly superior to DVD in picture quality. AND most blu-ray offer lossless sound, which should be a great boon for soundtrack lovers. In fact, I almost can´t stand to watch DVD any more. What is worse than the lower resolution, is the amount of digital data reduction related artefacts like mosquito noise and double contours. Even for older films, blu-ray is so much better, that it is no contest. I compared "Close Encounters of the 3rd kind" on Laserdisc, DVD and Blu-ray. Laserdisc was just blurry, DVD offered a bit more details, but introduced sharpening artefacts (edge enhancement). The leap in picture quality from DVD to BLu-ray was vastly higher than the step from Laserdisc to DVD. And that is for a film with problematic film element source. Look at "the searchers" or "How the west was won" or "Sleeping Beauty": 50 year old movies looking like made yesterday. Sorry for the long post, but I was VERY astonished to read almost exclusively negative posts about a medium, that for the first time allow to recreate the cinema experience at home, as if you had an exact replica of a 35mm film at your fingertips. For every true film lover there simply should be no hesitation. And it is very simple to buy the films for not much more money than the corresponding DVDs, you just need to look for special offers and shop a bit around Of course if you are looking for 3-5$ per movie and 30-50 $ for a player, than BD is not for you. But I think, movies should be worth to oneself a bit more.

Indeed. And how about that Gaudeamus igitur quote? That is the Brahms quote mentionned above. rather, one of the 2 student songs quoted in Brahms Academic Festival Overture.

You know, the Brahms quote is really a quote of drinking songs that were popular among German students (I dont know about other coutries) about 100 years ago. Brahms quotes them in his "Academic overture". I am not sure if Williams wanted to quote the Brahms piece of the original songs. Either way, it is used to suggest an academic ambience, at least for the informed.

my question: Where does the music from this track appear in the film? I hear parts of it in the Jungle Chase, but that was it. The "secondary theme" does not seem to be used at all.

I have copied the isolated soundtrack plus the alternative isolated soundtrack from the first DVD edition on minidisc. Do you think that I then have most or all of the Intrada music already?