Taikomochi

I love this theme. It’s stands in contrast with all the earlier macguffin themes as somber and reflective (except maybe the grail theme? But that seemed more noble than this one). I’m sure I’m projecting, but it suggests to me Williams reflecting on his own protracted career, how he’s surely in the closing chapters of his life. It sticks out to me that Williams swerved from his usual closing the credits on the Raiders March to instead go out on this theme for what is likely to be his final film score.

It’s not disappointing because it means we have two hours of music from one of the greatest living musical minds that statistically should not exist, even if we don’t immediately have access to all of it.

3:19-3:35 in “The Airport” 😍

The best suggestion I can make is to immediately swap the two Helena’s themes. The violin one has no closure to it, so it works better as an overture or sorts.

I’m going to miss being able to measure the eras of my life around when the next Williams score is coming out. What a treasure each of these is, including DoD.

There was that wilted, anxious statement of the Raiders March for the one map transition in Crystal Skull when they moved to the Amazon. This doesn’t seem that tonally out of step with that.

Listening to “To Athens” the first time got me like

It also helps that TLC album sounds awful, so while I don’t really want material to be restated, I’m excited to hear it with a much better mix

Let’s be charitable and call it a revision

I think most of the violin arrangements are incredible, but here it smothers the gorgeous orchestral writing. It’s actively distracting when I am trying to enjoy the stronger iterations of the melody. It doesn’t help that Williams seemingly removed the climax of the piece from the superior orchestral arrangement.

JW fans stop expecting JW’s music to inexplicably revert to how it sounded 40 years ago challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

I know the moment you are talking about, but it seems like we already have multiple examples of this happening just in the 5 minutes or so of clips released from Dial. That’s… troubling. Will wait to hear the whole thing before passing judgment, of course.

To me, it does not sound like he wrote something that incidentally sounded like it. It sounds like he started with the sheet music for Spyders, changed some notes, and called it a cue.

As I said in the other thread, that is 100% temped with “Spyders” edit: my post in that thread was pulled into this one

That cue is 100% temped with “Spyders”

I take that as code for “I don’t really know what Williams sounds like outside of his 70’s-80’s hits, least of all how his sound has changed over time, so it was disorienting and different to me.”

Just dropping into this thread to say I hate Avatar, I don’t even know what Avatar is, and I have no interest in it whatsoever, but I will spend money on it. Thanks.

My hot take is the complete Jungle Chase is the best extended setpiece Williams wrote for any of these. Incredible, incredible action scoring, thrilling in its complexity.

My feeling is someone just made up the title because they knew the movie partly is in NY and takes place in 1969. Could be wrong, but it’s as easily made up as it isn’t.

90% of YouTube reviewers are ragebait. No thanks

Oh sure, I figured you weren’t endorsing it. I always just chuckle at how easy it is to identify those vids by the thumbnail

On principle, I never watch YouTube videos where the thumbnail has the youtuber making some stupid ass face like that. That’s how you identify people who just make contrarian opinions for clicks, and they shouldn’t be rewarded. It hasn’t steered me wrong thus far.

Sequel trilogy is his magnum opus

Don’t worry. If that comes to be, then a contingent of users band together and pop up in every single thread that the issue of reuse comes up in to reassure you that actually this score is 100% Williams, deliberately obfuscating the fact that no one thinks William Ross wrote music for the film as much as Williams reused too much. Just the way they seem to do every time the Chamber of Secrets reuse problems get discussed. And so we can all just go on living in denial that way. 👍

I’m glad to have both versions, for sure