Jay

What? No. Disc space? No, it's be for the listening experience.

Yes it seems clear to me that Mike chose to fade it early for the 2016 version, but let it play out in full for the 2022 version. I like hearing the long full ending, personally.

Oh, interesting! I missed that. Thank you!

Oh well there you go, that basically confirms it! And yes, I'm sure that most of the other music on the episode albums that isn't used was written for the episodes then just dialed out, but there could be some others like this one. Well, it sounds like you identified one already with that Rhun bit. I'll check it out tomorrow!

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So I've seen episode 3 now, and certainly feel like I will appreciate the season 3 score album much more now, the next time I listen to it! Estrid's theme is interesting in the episode. If I'm remembering right, her whole first scene doesn't have it, then it gets introduced over a traveling montage showing the woods they are going through, and we even see Isildur's face for a while first when here theme is still playing before she comes into the frame. Later in the scene around the fire, her theme plays more when she's on screen though. I'm a little surprised they used episode two forging music instead of the concert arrangement of her theme for the end credits. Seemed like the right episode to do it in, especially since the theme is tender and she was kind of revealed to probably be a bad guy by the end of the episode. Isildur's theme made a nice impact in the episode as well, more-so than it does on album for me, for whatever reason. And the return of Arondir's theme worked really well too. Raya Yarbrough's vocal version of the theme for Bronwyn's funeral was very effective! When the Ents showed up at the end, was the episode mix missing the percussion rhythm that you can hear on the album? I noticed that in Damrod's scene, the Jens Kidman vocals are mixed so low (or maybe there's just no many other noises on screen) that you can't really hear them ; they don't make an impact. They don't "lead" the music. I wonder if the showrunners let Bear indulge for his albums, but the show itself won't do as much with those vocals. We'll see when we see him again! Gosh, the Numenor music is all SO good! The whole end of the episode I was getting goosebumps from how awesome the music was in the whole coronation scene. I love how developed this theme is! I think that's about it! Hopefully episode 4 tomorrow!

Wow yeah, that 45 number sounds like twice as much as reality after seeing it, but who knows!

It's hard to imagine WB Pictures playing ball on anything interesting right now, but who knows!

The Rings of Power 2x03 The Eagle and the Sceptre I enjoyed this episode as well, but it is a LITTLE strange the way that the writers spread out the storylines so far this season. Having this episode be almost entirely the Iisldur/Estrid/Arondir story and the Numenor story, with a litlte bit of Dwarves and Celebrimbor/Annatar, without any Galadriel, Elrond, Gil-galad, Nori/Stranger/Rhûn at all was noticeably unusual, I felt. It might have made more sense start some of this stuff (like Isildur and Shelob, and resetting of life in Numenor) in one of the first two episodes, and maybe save some beats of Galadriel and Elrond's story or the sandstorm/well sequence for this episode, to kind of keep all the stories in motion through the opening three episodes instead of pausing some of them for entire episodes. I guess its less important when binging everything, but spaced out like I've watched them, this episode just lacked the "drive" that both of the first two episodes had. The recap at the beginning was very helpful for me to remember what's what with all these Numenor characters, but even with it I was a bit lost about the stakes of what having or using a palantir means, what differences would happen if one person was in charge instead of another, and stuff like that. I kind of feel like something is lost with Numenor stuff, maybe the rumors of filming then deleting Numenor scenes is true. I hope it comes together by the end of the season. I quite enjoyed Isildur's storyline throughout the episode. The escape from Shelob was pretty intense and nicely creepy. BTW, is the soundtrack's album titles the only way to even know that that spider was supposed to be Shelob? Was there anything on screen that would let the viewer know that this big spider is THE big spider? There were big spiders in the Hobbit movie too, in a different forest, so I dunno what reason anyone would have to think that this was Shelob specifically unless I missed something. The Estrid character was interesting. I felt the whole time like something was off, so the reveal that she had Adar's mark was pretty good. But was she burning it off because she doesn't want to be caught, or is she renouncing Adar now? Killing off Bronwyn was a little strange. If the actress didn't want to come back, why not just recast the character? It worked for Adar, and countless other people on countless other shows in the past. Weird. Arondir's crazy acrobatics kind of made me laugh, and seem like they were trying to hard to make him into Legolas 2.0. But his more dramatic scenes I quite enjoyed; I wonder what arc his character will go on this season? As always, the Dwarf scenes were excellent and highlights of the episode. Durin IV and Disa parlaying with Celebrimbor and Annatar was great, but the best scene was Durin IV talking with Durin III. Both actors did a remarkable job, and I love that Durin IV doesn't trust what's going on in Eregion but they're kinda stuck. The way Annatar smooth-talked Celebrimbor into getting what he wanted was also well-done. I liked the night adventure to go get Berrick back from the wild men, and how the Ents intervened to save the day. Can't wait to see them next episode. Hopefully tomorrow!

So, should we re-think the purpose of the so-called "Forging Theme"? Because it appears in episodes 1 and 2, when no new rings are forged. But then its absent in 3, when they are actually forging new rings again OK, it does make its way into the episode once the credits start rolling, but that's via music that was recorded for and used in episode 2 already. So maybe it doesn't signify forging, its really just a cool ostinato to use is scenes set at the forge?

I dunno. The way the film is structured, it doesn't seem like its a film that NEEDED a lot of score. The songs chosen all seemed like ti was the intention all along. Certainly MacArthur Park was!

So, the concert Thursday night was really good! I bought myself a balcony ticket right near the stage, meaning I could see every single musician really well. It also meant the screen showing the movie was at a bad angle, but luckily for me, I don't like this movie but do LOVE this score, so it was extremely easy for me to ignore the screen the entire night. The only time I watched it was during the parts of the movie where the orchestra didn't do anything, which wasn't many. This meant the entire time I was basically watching the musicians play, and I feel like I learned so much! I've never been great at identifying which instrument is playing sometimes, so being able to see what was a flute solo or an oboe passage or which part of the brass section was playing which parts was really cool. Also, the BSO played really good the whole time! The music can be challenging at times, especially since the final cut featured the music editor chopping up recording cues and moving them around and changing the pitch and such, and all of that had to be re-created on the page for fresh performances. And luckily by playing the music anew it sounds much better than the edited versions. And what really stood out was the part of "Binary Sunset" that's tracked into the actual movie works so much better when its played by the same orchestra doing the rest of the music - and in fact, it sounded like there was some extra accents in there that you don't hear in the original recording (don't quote me on that). Highlights were the delicate flute passages that lead Rey's early scenes on Jakku, Follow Me & The Falcon, The Map Scene & Green Planet, the music for Rey's vision when she touches the saber, Ice Landing, To Lightspeed, The Bombing Run, A Light In The Snow & Fly Home, and The Complete Map. There were many times when I wanted to applaude the musicians after a particularly strong performance, but I would have been the only one doing so; The rest of the audience was only applauding when a OT character showed up for the first time in the movie. The intermission point is a little awkward, but perhaps has to be where it is because of the rules about how long the musicians can be on stage with out a break, I'm not sure. It's probably already explained somewhere in this thread better, but happens shortly after Rey has her vision; She runs outside and the screen goes black and the orchestra goes from the music in the movie right into a reprise of some of the opening battle music to kind of end the first half with a bang. Then when the second half starts, the lights stay on so you can watch the musicians play most of Rey's Theme, before the lights dim as the film resumes with a shot of Starkiller base. Additionally, when the end credits begin, the lights come on so you can watch them play through the whole end credits, which is great because its a great suite that has all the film's major themes. And interesting, at the very end, they change the ending to be the grand ending from the usual Star Wars Main Theme concert version. Everyone in the orchestra really played SO well ALL night, when the end credits finished we gave everyone a huge standing ovation that went on for a long time. Keith Lockhart left the stage and came back twice, and the first time he came back, he made sure to highlight several of the players who had solos for extra applause. It really was a great night, and it was great to be back at Symphony Hall again!

So here's an epiphany I had. The section you say is not used, is the EXACT same section that is 1:1 identical to the concert arrangement. So what if what's actually happening, is that 0:33-2:47 is a cue from the episode, and 4:03-4:51 is another cue from later in the episode, and when putting the episode album together, he decided to just throw in some of the concert arrangement there, just to make the track more interesting to listen to? I haven't seen the episode yet, but if the footage in between the 0:33-2:47 cue and the 4:03-4:51 cue is not the same length as what's on the album from 2:47-4:03, or if that music wouldn't fit the scene there, then that might be what happened! Which could also mean that some of the other passages of "unused" music found on the episode albums might possibly be stuff he included just for listening purposes too, and not music simply dialed out. Who knows!

Just got back from seeing the film at the cinema. I enjoyed it quite a bit; It's one of the rare legacy sequels that is actually good, and doesn't just try to re-do the original movie and fill it up with nostalgia the whole time. Only really bringing back Keaton, O'Hara, and Ryder, and having new characters drive a lot of the action, was a very wise choice. And now I understand why there's no separate score album, there's barely any score in the movie. I wouldn't be surprised if only 30 minutes at most were recorded, and there's less than that heard in the movie. All the major set-pieces are scored by songs. I'm pretty sure that the two longest cues in the film are the main and end titles that are on the song compilation.

Thanks for posting this. That was great!

Added 48 Hrs (Enjoy The Ride) to Paramount

You have a different definition of "considerably" than I do

Yeah, that's the 2016 vinyl reissue. Clearly its time for another reissue!

LLL title is "System Ready"

Neat!

Don't forget that Varese only has rights to the first score, and that there hasn't a been a specialty label release licensed from WB Pictures since 2021, apart from scores that Varese has complete perpetuity rights to already

yeah i'd love to see some score restore videos that put the dropped score back into the footage Feel free to start a new thread!

Probably just the 1999 30 minute score program coming to vinyl again, though they're claiming its "more than that" on twitter https://twitter.com/VareseSarabande/status/1832144428326384063 https://twitter.com/VareseSarabande/status/1832145110798365084

It's a studio recording and its really good!

Thanks man! Really appreciate it!