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I did not know that... :oops: OOps... I mean :arrow: ....

LOL

But seriously, I do love the comedic moments of 4 (Spock ruled in that one), and the "BASTARD" moment of 3 and the destruction of the Enterprise. Other than that... the fade to black part.

My favorite moment in every one is when they fade to black when they are finished.

1. (TIE) AOTC & AI 3. The Patriot 4. Harry Potter

It has to be intentional because Anakin & Padme's love is what makes the original trilogy happen. -Chris, Who thinks that Hook itself is underrated and the score is one of Williams top 5...

I don't like that as much. It doesn;t work for this reason... the Imperial March doesn't work as well there because Vader isn't yet in command of the army. And that march was written for Vader and his troops. I would have preferred to hear what Williams had originally composed for that scene. Chris, Who thinks that Lucas doesn't even know what these themes mean.

Maybe future generations should only watch Star Wars then and stay away from the rest. Neil Neil is sounding more like Joe than Joe himself !

Agreed. George should stop meddling with the scores. Doesn't he know that ALL of these movies would have sucked if not for the scores? I don't even see Empire or Jedi even being made without Williams' epic, timeless scores. And if they were made, I probably wouldn't have liked them as much as I do. In reviewing the story of Attack Of The Clones in my mind, I can only think of the superior angles and ideas... magic... that Speilberg could have added to this already awesome film if he had directed this one. And he would have doubtlessly kept Williams score intact (The Lost World being the only case where he has butchered John's music). What is Lucas' problem? He creates these great stories, and self-sabotages them with average directing, poor editing and a total disregard for the most important ingredient in the saga... the music itself. I can't wait to hear what Williams has to say about this. He must NOT be happy, but again he is probably too polite to openly say. Eric, does Joseph admire his father's talents as much as we do? Sometimes you take things like that for granted if it's your dad.

That happened to me when I saw A.I.. The cleaning lady must have thought that I was a loon. It was nearly 1am, the thetre was closing, the mall was closed and I was trying to listen to the whole end credits. They stopped them because they probably didn't see me waiting in the doorway near a rear speaker.

Same here. It sucks when your ride threatens to leave without you. :evil: Next time, I'll stay... -Chris

I'm not talking about those nasty and teeth-grinding edits within the movie. That was dispicable. The music was raped in this film, seemingly more than it was in The Phantom Menace. I'm talking about the music as in the album composed for the film by Williams, and untoched by the sloppy butter-finger film editors. In my opinion, it works far better when re-sequenced in movie order. -Chris

Back in the 1977-1982 era, John Williams created some of the best original soundtrack albums. Granted most of them were woefully short (30 minute LPs or up to a max of around 77 minutes or so with a dual LP), that make today's 74-77 minute releases look generous. Still, I loved Star Wars, Superman: The Movie, The Empire Strikes Back dual albums. I also loved the short but sweet Raiders Of The Lost Ark and E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial regular albums. Then, something went horribly wrong. Williams still composed great music, but most of the original soundtracks have all been sorely lacking in content and poorly arranged. We all love those dual CD sets. Nothing can beat the completeness of the three Star Wars Special Edition 2 CD sets and Rhino's Superman: The Movie 2 CD set. That's a blueprint on how every classic, epic soundtrack is supposed to be. Granted, they are aimed for us... the hardcore collectors. I know that the average joe doesn't care for film music outside of the score, and most people are happy with a 70/78 minute CD release. Granted the expanded releases are treasures and we love them, but don't get nearly as many as we want. But that isn't the point here... Just today while I was working, I listened to a CDR that I made from the Attack Of The Clones CD that I re-sequenced in chronological order per the instructions on the main page. WOW! Williams did a very poor job in arranging this album. Without any additional unreleased music... just hearing it in chronological order made for a MUCH more interesting and pleasurable listening experience. Of course, I am now biased because I have since seen the movie and know the tale better than I did from spoilers alone... but the music just doesn't tell a story the way that Williams arranged it. It builds very nicely in chronological order, where on the OST it sort of jumps around between quiet and loud. It's built to keep the beginning listener's interest, but it is NOT very fluid in comparison. Some dislike the less thematic approach that Williams used in AOTC, much like they did when trying to compare The Lost World to Jurassic Park. I don't agree. In the same manner that I loved The Lost World (even more than it's predecessor in that case), I think the same way with this score. Sure, it's slightly different than the previous Star Wars scores and it surprises you a bit at first because it doesn't contain as many "new" themes as past Star Wars scores. But does Star Wars need that many more themes by now? In my view, it isn't any less interesting or powerful, and it's very unique in this regard. Especially in context with the film. And it's complexities give it more re-listen value than past Star Wars scores. I'm still learning it months after those advance promos leaked out. Now, Williams never stops making great music. His style changes and evolves with his tastes and maturity. But there is one thing where he HAS "lost it". The way he arranges those original soundtrack releases. Since Return Of The Jedi in 1983, those albums have been poorly arranged, woefully short and wimpy in comparison to the fuller scores as heard in the films (minus the edits made IN the films themselves). But Williams has all the power because he is the composer, conductor, and producer of almost all his soundtrack albums. And I still say that this is the biggest and possibly only weakness in Williams' abilities. His scores are so good that he robs them of their power when he only releases a re-arranged and significantly condensed 74-78 minutes worth of music. If only we could consistently get full releases, arranged chronologically, (with maybe a few artistic liberties taken in getting smaller cues to flow together better)... -Chris, So tired that he doesn't know how he wrote all this...

Well, I saw TESB first when I was a 5/6 year old boy in 1980 and I've been a fan of the series AND John Williams ever since. I didn't need Star Wars, which I first read/listened to in the story & record set and then finally saw on the re-release after TESB. I think of them as one big, long movie. And although some of the chapters are liked more than others, I love them all.

It was too big for me to DL on my phone connection, but I saw parts of it on one of those Access Hollywood type shows. Hilarious. -Chris, Who is a Star Wars fan, but thinks that those nerds that play dressup and campout in line make even Trekkies look cool! And that is something extramely dificult to do! LOL

I was going to put my AOTC CD music into chronological order but the thread was on the other MB. Any help?

You oughtta' talk, NERYS! -Chris, Who loves A.I. and AOTC much more tha Patriot and Potter (not that they are bad)... and can't get the sick twisted version of Vader's theme after Anakin butchers the Tusken Raiders out of my head... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I can't decide between A.I. and AOTC.

As James just mentioned in an email, he thinks that so far he likes this MB a little bit better than the last one, and I have to say that I agree. 8O Might as well

Emailed topic reply notices actually work on this board! I never got one sent to me on the last MB. Ricard & Co., please try to get those evil smirk faces imported in the Emoticon choices if you can. Look! This one is for Steef! -Chris

Are they going senile? :roll: -Chris, Who hopes not... but sometimes you wonder...