The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Fire away with your top ten from the Baroque era of classical music.
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Sorry, Mr teacher, the question is not quite clear. What do you mean? A top 10 of what?
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Posted March 24, 2018 Top ten works. So really you could be as blunt as saying The Royal Fireworks but preferably specify. Ex. Overture from the Royal Fireworks. Sorry about the clarity. No real order is necessary. 1. Hornpipe II from Watermusic Suite ( Handel) 2. Canon in D (Pachelbel) 3. Badinerie (Bach) 4. Hallelujah Chorus from the Messiah (Handel) 5. Toccata and Fugue (Bach) 6. Overture from The Royal Fireworks (Handel) 7. Allegro from Spring (Vivaldi) 8. Allegro from Winter (Vivaldi) 9.Allegro from La Notte Concerto (Vivaldi) 10. Presto Allegro from Summer (Vivaldi) Bespin Copilot 1
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Of course, I'll cheat. 1. Brandenburg Concertos BWV 1046-1051 [#3] (J.S. Bach) 2. Suites for Orchestra BWV 1066-1069 [#2, #3] (J.S. Bach) 3. Cantata BWV 140 [Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring] (J.S. Bach) 4. Cantata BWV 147 [Sleepers Wake] (J.S. Bach) 5. Mass in B minor BWV 232 (J.S. Bach) 6. Concerto for 2 Trumpets in C major, RV 537 (A. Vivaldi) 7. Concertos for Cello/Viola d'Amore [RV. 401, 423, 531, 540] (A. Vivaldi) 8. Les Grands Motets [Miserere, Te Deum] (J.-B. Lully) 9. Suites for Keyboard (#2, #3, #5) (G.F. Handel) 10. Sonatas for Keyboard (D. Scarlatti)
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Posted March 24, 2018 I've heard of Scarlatti but I haven't heard Scarlatti. Braden burg Concertos are a yes especially No. 3 Allegro. The two Bach cantatas are very good ,yes. Is that the Te Deum Fanfare there? And I personally own the full double trumpet concerto by Vivaldi and it is really nice.
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Is that the Te Deum Fanfare there? The one I talk about is a Grand Motet, the first movements of these works are called "Symphonie", it's maybe the same I don't know how they say it in english.
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Posted March 24, 2018 Nor do I. Oh well I'm sure it's good. I think I'm thinking of something by M.A. charpentier.
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Nor do I. Oh well I'm sure it's good. I think I'm thinking of something by M.A. charpentier.
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Posted March 24, 2018 Similar, but not what I was thinking of.
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Well, all the Baroque works are similar... except J.S. Bach's works...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Posted March 24, 2018 Yep. Vivaldi is the strings. Bach always has the harpsichord in there. Handel has a very signature sound to it. It is probably the easiest time period to determine when listening to classical music. Unless you listen to modern classical like Einaudi.
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Ok call me by all the names you want... I listen to all my harpsichord works.. played on the piano. I haaaate harpischord so much I compare it to a middle age torture instrument. The Illustrious Jerry 1
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Here's a new Spotify playlist I made with my choices (not random interpretations, the ones I love only):
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Posted March 25, 2018 Excellent. Bespin Copilot 1
Naïve Old Fart 12,654 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 HANDEL'S MESSIAH: it's really all you need, from that era. It's also a very strong candidate for the accolade "Greatest Single Composition In The History Of Music". Jurassic Shark 1
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 I'll stop because you'll soon know all the tricks to torture me... Handel's Messiah, really? We should make a Top 10 of the most irritating classical compositions
Jurassic Shark 16,049 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 20 hours ago, Bespin said: Ok call me by all the names you want... I listen to all my harpsichord works.. played on the piano. I haaaate harpischord so much I compare it to a middle age torture instrument. It depends very much on the particular harpsichord.
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard said: HANDEL'S MESSIAH: it's really all you need, from that era. It's also a very strong candidate for the accolade "Greatest Single Composition In The History Of Music". No but yes. It is not all you need but it is the greatest.
bollemanneke 4,279 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 I used to love baroque music. Then I discovered film music and I've hated baroque ever since. Its obsession with structure just drives me mad.
Jurassic Shark 16,049 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 So you don't like JW's concert arrangements? They're usually quite classically structured.
bollemanneke 4,279 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 But they're much more exciting than any classical music written pre-1800s.
Jurassic Shark 16,049 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Händel's Messiah is definitely exciting. And while Vivaldi has many not-that-interesting concertos, some of them are quite sublime. Like this one:
bollemanneke 4,279 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Handel's Messiah isn't bad, but I sat through it live two years ago. There are no surprises anywhere and then I'm not even talking about the fact that the lyrics fit on, like, one page, and that it's a two/three-hours thing.
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Posted March 26, 2018 I'm going to see it live in April (Handel's Messiah). I think it's simply the name its made for itself is what puts it on the list for a lot of people.It's a bit of a default but its still good. Jurassic Shark 1
Jurassic Shark 16,049 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 It's not good, it's frickin' awesome!
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's not good, it's frickin' awesome! Yeah. To expand what I said earlier their are plenty of other equally awesome Baroque pieces. It's just that The Messiah's fame seems to put it on the top of people's lists.
Jurassic Shark 16,049 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Nah, it's on the top of people's list because IT'S FRICKIN' AWESOME! It's 2+ hours of pure greatness, without a boring second!
SteveMc 2,686 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 5:50 AM, bollemanneke said: I used to love baroque music. Then I discovered film music and I've hated baroque ever since. Its obsession with structure just drives me mad. I love both. Here is my top ten, no order: Bach's Mass in B Minor Bach's Orchestral Suite No. 3 Bach's Second Violin Partita Bach's Cello Suite No. 1 Bach's Cello Suite No.6 Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor Bach's Keyboard Concerto in D minor The Art of the Fugue Handel's Messiah One of Albinoni's Oboe Concertos, not completely sure which one is my favorite. As you can see, I'm a bit obsessed with Bach. Bespin Copilot and The Illustrious Jerry 2
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Bach, that's my man. You love Bach and Roy Orbison, are we parent without knowing it @Steve McQueen?
SteveMc 2,686 Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 22 hours ago, Bespin said: Bach, that's my man. You love Bach and Roy Orbison, are we parent without knowing it @Steve McQueen? Our tastes do seem to align in some ways.
Bespin Copilot 10,514 Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: Our tastes do seem to align in some ways. Aznavour, no?
The Illustrious Jerry 3,361 Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 Arcangelo Corelli anyone? Telemann's Tablemusik? I had forgotten about these guys.
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