Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 My Batman score CD says it will last a lifetime. Seems it's not exactly true:"We were all told that CDs were well-nigh indestructible when they were introduced in the mid '80s," Koster says. "Companies used that in part to justify the higher price of CDs as well." The rotting can be due to poor manufacturing, according to Jerry Hartke, who runs Media Sciences Inc., a Marlborough, Mass., laboratory that tests CDs. Manufacturers cite lifespans up to 100 years, but without a standardized test, it's very hard to evaluate their claims, Byers says. The worst part is that manufacturers frequently change the materials and manufacturing methods without notifying users. Yahoo! News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Yeah, aluminum is not resistant to corrosion you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted May 6, 2004 Author Share Posted May 6, 2004 I'll have to go back to ol' reliable cassettes.Hector - Where's my walkman, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Cassettes are vile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 It's an old claim. Legend has it that some titles went blank after a while due to some wrong ink, or something. All my CDs are still working. I don't think any of the major labels were affected by this.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 I first saw this topic at FSM, the Jerry Goldsmith is Lord site,and then I saw this today, and thought some might find it useful.Learn more about CD ROT, and how to protect your cd's and DVD's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Some of the CDs that are said to rot I have had for awhile and I don't see any problems yet.I have the original Polydoor release of Cocoon, I've had it for some 17 years I believe and it still plays fine. I just try to take care of my music as good as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 This is the second post about rotting CDs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Irons is still pretty happy with CD technology, since it beats vinyl LPs and tape for longevity.LPs don't have the complex manufacturing process that can potentially effect CDs. All you need is something to spin them and something fine enough to reach between the grovves to get sound. In theory, an LP will never go bad, so that longevity claim is bogus.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Of course the act of playing an LP is inherently destructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Yeah, a CD will never be damaged from playing at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Be careful, Morn! Your collection, on the other hand, IS endangered since compared to real CDs the lifespan of CDR is ridiculously short. ----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Of course the act of playing an LP is inherently destructive.Not when treated with care. CDs apparently can be lovingly treated and still degrade.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Be careful, Morn! Your collection, on the other hand, IS endangered since compared to real CDs the lifespan of CDR is ridiculously short. CDR's don't corrode, they are just more fragile. Treat em with care they could in theory last at least 15 years and maybe 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Of course the act of playing an LP is inherently destructive.Not when treated with care. CDs apparently can be lovingly treated and still degrade.NeilWrong vinyl fanboy.Get your facts straight.The act of putting a sharp needle upon the surrfice of an LP and then revolving it is inherently destructive.Even if you take great care of your LP's, they will wear a little every time they are played.That's life, and you should get one.Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Of course the act of playing an LP is inherently destructive.Not when treated with care. CDs apparently can be lovingly treated and still degrade.NeilWrong vinyl fanboy.Get your facts straight.The act of putting a sharp needle upon the surrfice of an LP and then revolving it is inherently destructive.Even if you take great care of your LP's, they will wear a little every time they are played.That's life, and you should get one.Next.Explain that one to my father who has been collecting records for over 50 years and still has his original records and which still play beautifully.Neil - who thinks Steef should change his name to "Fraud Thaxton" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 He never plays them much.Period.Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Neil - who thinks Steef should change his name to "Fraud Thaxton" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 He never plays them much. Period. Next.Isn't that an assumption? 8OJustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 It's a fact, if his LP's are still in good shape.Playing vinyl destroys vinyl, that's a fact.Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKenLittle 6 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 My very first CD as the Polydor release of ROTJ, back in 85 or 86. The disc was manufactured in West Germany. So for fun, I dug it out a couple of nights ago, after reading a similar post on FSM, just to check. Sure enough, plays like the first time. I think a certain amount of CD rot can be attested to the care given to discs by their owners. I have always returned them to their cases after playing, never used a carrying case for them at any time. The only thing I put into CD carrying cases are the CD-Rs I burn for use in my car and walkman. These, I am finding are indeed starting to skip... But, hey, I always meant for them to be disposable anyway so... BK: Who never takes professionl CDs out of the apartment since his walkman and discs were stolen on his birhtday two years ago. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 I own several very old CD'sThey play fine.CD rotting is more a problem associated by flaws in the manufacturing process then anything else i think.Despite what vinyl loving geeks try to make you believe, vinyl is dead.and i'm glad for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 It's not dead yet. 180 gram pressings are the latest thing. I don't think I ever owned a 180 gram LP. I know several shops that live off newly sold vinyl.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 "He's Really not dead, as long as we remember him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Why is it that each time I rent a DVD the surface is smeared with dirty fingerprints, pizza leftovers and unspeakable bodily fluids? Am I the only one who treats rentals with respect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 MY DVD player even has troubles with rental discs sometimes because of the scratches and smears.I'm suprised rental stores take DVD's back like that.And i'm even more shocked that they rent them out to outer people in that condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 And i'm even more shocked that they rent them out to outer people in that condition.That's right! They just sit there behind the counter gazing at a TV screen. Is it too much trouble for them to keep them clean? Also, whether they are mine or rentals, I always hold a CD/DVD by the edges while trying not to touch the shiny surface. It has become an automatism. I'm planning on keeping my CDs till the day I die and, who knows, maybe I CAN take them with me.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 I'm planning on keeping my CDs till the day I die and, who knows, maybe I CAN take them with me.Wouldn't you be happier leaving them to me? Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Only if you pry them from my dead cold hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 I'm planning on keeping my CDs till the day I die and, who knows, maybe I CAN take them with me.Wouldn't you be happier leaving them to me? NeilWhy? they are not vinyl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Only if you pry them from my dead cold hands.Sounds easy enough. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted May 9, 2004 Share Posted May 9, 2004 Just get out your hack saw...Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 Why is it that each time I rent a DVD the surface is smeared with dirty fingerprints, pizza leftovers and unspeakable bodily fluids? Am I the only one who treats rentals with respect?Ahh yes, if your DVD doesn't play properly, go to the video shop and complain, they will give you another rental for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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