Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Are there any news about the release or about the music beyond what we have heard here?I have been concentrating in my LOTR ravings so much there has been hardly any posts outside that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I hear the Geishas will be performing LIVE at Tokyo's Huoritimiconuico-san Theatre on November 3rd. Bring with you one of the following: a pillow, a revolver, a cynide pill. Hitch, feeling warped today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 I have noticed certain tendencies (homicidal, psychotic?) in your posts today But thanks for sharing that piece of valuable information. I have a pillow, revolver and a cyanide pill ready for the trip. Now I need only horse and a buggy. I like to travel in style. Japan is far away from where I reside.- Incanus who is glad to be a Wizard since "Wizard is never late nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to"- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I have noticed certain tendencies (homicidal, psychotic?) in your posts today But thanks for sharing that piece of valuable information. I have a pillow, revolver and a cyanide pill ready for the trip. Now I need only horse and a buggy. I like to travel in style. Japan is far away from where I reside.- Incanus who is glad to be a Wizard since "Wizard is never late nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to"-And like all great wizards, they usually end up in the Phantom Zone or in pantomines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 It is hard these days. Sauron gone and no real Maiar to fight there is not proper work for a Wizard of my stature. You know I had to stoop to pulling rabbits out of my pointy greyblue hat to entertain people at shopping centres for a while to make a living. Talk about embarrasing. One of the mighty Istari making card tricks for kiddies and juggling to get small change. Children pestered me for those damnable fireworks I showed them but the shopping center is in ashes now. I never liked that job any way. But they should respect a man of my caliber. Fire is my expertice and when Gandalf gets angry people die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Bring friends..........a lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Back to the issue at hand. I take it there are no news about Memoirs then? This is unusual. Williams' scores receive almost always the wide coverage. Now there is none. Not an article not a one interview. It's early though so news may start to trickle soon our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Actuually you are wrong, Williams franchise scores recieve wide coverage.Anyone remember the huge amount of press devoted to The Terminal or WOTW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Almost always was the term I used. That should cover the smaller scores. It is true that that e.g. Terminal and WOTW did not get coverage. Only the BIGGER scores are well reported and covered now that you mentioned it, but Williams has scored many big pictures the last few years:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I found it very refreshing not having to dodge all the info, soundclips, and interviews for the WOTW score.Also glad the damn thing didn't leak on the Net a month before it's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I heard on tv some lady say this:"And here's an interesting fact: John Williams gave up the chance to score Harry Potter 4 to score Memoirs."as far as I had heard, he took on memoirs because Steven was directing it and he and Steven do everything together. Then Steven dropped out but John Stayed in.Same thing with Harry Potter... he joined with Steven who then dropped out and gave it to Chris... who dropped out... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Same thing with Harry Potter... he joined with Steven who then dropped out and gave it to Chris... who dropped out... lolWrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 You know... it helps if you elaborate...yea... thanks...Love ya lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Spielberg was only briefly considered, Williams went on board because he liked the book and has scored several film for Chris Columbus.Off course the moolah (Ka-tjing) didn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kradia 1 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I hear the Geishas will be performing LIVE at Tokyo's Huoritimiconuico-san Theatre on November 3rd. Bring with you one of the following: a pillow, a revolver, a cynide pill. Hitch, feeling warped today.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!(incoherent screaming continues).........WHERE WHERE WHERE? WHere'S the link?OR are you just bluffing? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 See, I did hear some of that: I read somewhere that HP was the first score he made where he read the book before scoring the film... is that true or am I gonna get reprimanded for mentioning it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 John Williams does not score film with a book alone.He possibly developped some of the themes based on it and on some early footage when he was asked to compose the music for the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I hear the Geishas will be performing LIVE at Tokyo's Huoritimiconuico-san Theatre on November 3rd. Bring with you one of the following: a pillow, a revolver, a cynide pill. Hitch, feeling warped today.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!(incoherent screaming continues).........WHERE WHERE WHERE? WHere'S the link?OR are you just bluffing? :?I never bluff about my work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 that's not what I was saying. Im just saying that it was the first time he read the novel before scoring the film--I don't mean that in any capacity just that he read the novel before he saw the pre-edit of the film which would be before he scored it.I'm not saying he made any themes from reading the novel. From my understanding John Williams works on a visial standpoint, not a written one. He just sees the movies and not really reads the novels and that much on them...Like you said, he read the books and he liked them... and then scored them latter when they made them into movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 11, 2005 Author Share Posted October 11, 2005 Oh my. Thread got out of hand (once more). Calm yourselves. Potter is not the issue here. You can fight but do not continue it in this thread. Please if you be ever so kind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kradia 1 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I never bluff about my work :? so where's the link? where did you hear this from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 There's 2 "reviews" at AICNanyways the score is mentionned:1st review:"I wish I could do more than spew what seems to be a review of clichés, but this is really quite an exquisite film. It’s not perfect, but I have a feeling that its otherworldly, exotic settings, a surprisingly restrained John Williams/Yo-Yo Ma score, and its embrace of a time when films had elegance will hold the attention of many an audience member and many an Oscar voter"2nd review:"The film really does tell a good story, and it is visually stunning. The characters are well played and crafted, and the music by that little know indie artist John Williams, with a little bit of Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Pearlman for good measure, is pretty F'n fantastic.""K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 There's sme "reviews" at AICNanyways the score is mentionned:"The film really does tell a good story, and it is visually stunning. The characters are well played and crafted, and the music by that little know indie artist John Williams, with a little bit of Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Pearlman for good measure, is pretty F'n fantastic.""K.M.Now it's a good time to go bonkers about that last sentence and start speculating the words "pretty F'n fantastic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Well,at least the 2 reviewers noticed the music,that's what's important.k.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 That is true. No slight against you for reporting it. It sounds very promising and I have very high hopes and expectations for this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 , a surprisingly restrained John Williams/Yo-Yo Ma score, Doesn't this usually mean boring, King Mark?Stefancos- who remembers some reviews calling the score to SPR to be "over the top" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Maybe it will have Williams unused Beauxbatons theme and Yule Ball waltzk.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Keep dreaming Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I never bluff about my work :? so where's the link? where did you hear this from?I hope your Japanese is as good as my Bocce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Can you speak Bocce?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I'm fluent in over 6 million forms of communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I'd give real money if he'd shut up.Justin - Who will purchase the above mentioned soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Restrained can mean many a thing (also boring) but I think in Williams' case it will the Angela's Ashes kind of restrain (we must admit his scores are know from their bombast to many people so Williams doing restrained is pretty much a normal score by Hollywood standards). Iam waiting for this score very much as I have said and will buy it the second it hits the stores. The description of the score as restrained had an opposite effect on me. Now I am REALLY waiting for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamsid 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Im expecting williams to do as good a work as he did on tibet which is one of my favourites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Finally someone else that also loves Seven Years in Tibet. That score doesn't get one tenth of the praise it deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Tibet is said to have a good theme and much underscore... which is wrong in my opinion. The whole score stands as a coherent and compact work, with a strong emotional progression.One of my favorite soundtracks, definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 What can I say. I love Seven Years in Tibet. Wonderful listening experience. Dalai Lama theme is just as beautiful as the main theme. The score receives very little praise or attention even if it is wonderful example of Williams' drama scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I'd give real money if he'd shut up.I always knew the almighty US Dollar was fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 People should listen to tracks like Reaching the Summit or Henrih's Odissey just to see the wondeful underscore this score is.Plus, it contains 4 beuatiful themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 True. I have identified the main theme, the grief/guilt theme, the Dalai Lama/Tibetan theme and Regaining a Son albeit it is a short one and sadly never developed (Except in Elegy for Cello and Orchetra for our good fortune). How do you name the themes and are we talking about the same themes even? There has not been any conversation about the themes here on MB, atleast not that I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Those are the same themes. Usually I name them like this:Main ThemeHeirich's themeTibet themeRegaining a Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 It took some time for me to realize the dark music on many tracks was actually Heinrich's theme. It's wonderful. It's great how Williams injected the theme all the grief, guilt and remorse of the character. Underscore is subtle, touching and thematic. As I said Williams' better drama efforts. Dalai Lama/Tibet theme has been my favorite for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Heinrich's theme is one of my all time favorites. As you said, it's so filled with guilt and remorse. The Dalai Lama theme perfectly conveys the mysticism of this land. This is one of JW's greatest efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Is Heinrich's Theme the one that begins the track "Leaving Ingrid"?Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Yes, it is. At least that's what I call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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