Justin 2 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Which is nothing new.Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 I guess it's a matter of taste,I like Goldsmith less recently because he writes less counterpoints in his cues and his orchestrations are thinner than they used to.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Has anyone else heard the score yet? Since I got it through a connection (Who's still owes me Bernstein's Gangs of New York! ), and I hear a few of them a surfacing around. It's surprisingly very good quality- I think it's the best unused scores in the past few years. Probably since Randy Newman's Air Force One. (BTW- People have asked me, but I'm not allowed to trade this or make a CD-R) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Tasteless Joe. Real tasteless. I take that as a compliment, I achieved my desired effect, much like Jerry did with his awful Nemesis score which was Tasteless Joe. Real tasteless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 That's your new nickname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Joe, I don't have a problem with your thoughts. It's okay to believe that someones quality may suffer after an illness. It happens all the time. I don't like the way you expressed it though. It's incredibly tasteless. Look, if you're proud of the way you expressed yourself, more power to you, but I find it to be incredibly offensive, especially towards someone of Jerry's stature. I know for a fact that I've heard Nemesis more than you, and when I hear it, I hear typical Goldsmith action music. Nobody but him could have written a cue like "The Mirror" or "Odds and Ends". It may not be up to the level of Star Trek - The Motion Picture or Total Recall, but it's certainly as good as the action stuff he's been writing for the last couple of years (before he got sick) and certainly better than the stuff coming out of Media Ventures (RIP?) being passed off as music. I can't hear anything in it to make me think this is music written by a man who's been through an incredibly intense ordeal. I'm glad he didn't give up and was able to give us a score like Star Trek - Nemesis.To say such a comment as you did in this thread (and last year in similar threads) shows a surprising lack of compassion on your part. I hope you treat loved ones better than this.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Sorry, but I have a big chip on my shoulders regarding Jerry. And believe it or not the lack of any PC compassion towards Jerry is really valid. Chemo damages and destroys cells in the body, and Jerry hasn't been the same since.The fact that you have heard Nemesis more that I means you like it, and I don't.My copy resides in another country, which isn't quite far enough away.Jerry has been extremely lazy in his approach to Star Trek, and I wish that his name had not been attached to the last 3 films.He once was great, he's not even good anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Sorry, but I have a big chip on my shoulders regarding Jerry. And believe it or not the lack of any PC compassion towards Jerry is really valid.I didn't realize he did something personally to you to warrant such anger.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 There isn't any real anger just dislike.Anger requires more of an investment. I prefer to remember Jerry from the 70's and 80s when his talent was evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I was browsing the FSM forum when I came across the Timeline thread. I have two questions.Why the hell do they react so furiously against any mention of bootlegs? (OOHH! "He said the word. Better talk about something else. How have you been lately? How are your children? Oh look! A bird in the sky!") I mean, of course I don't agree with taking away money from composers blablabla, but if a good and fine score or part of a score is withheld, I don't see a reason not to try to get it, albeit in mp3 format - as long as it isn't released officially. Oh I'll get the official score. And I'll try to obtain unreleased tracks as well, until it's released completely... Jeez, the whole place is almost going nuts when there's a question about a bootleg.Second, I picked up that the release of Timeline might very well be a shortened release of, say, 40 minutes. What a pity. I like a Deluxe edition to be quite complete - and indeed, let the fans decide what they omit on their bought version.Any additional thoughts?Greetings!Anybody? Just liked to hear your thoughts slash reactions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Oh, and what I also 'found out' there, is that it seems that Mr Thaxton is almost completely responsible for the decrease of isolated score tracks on DVDs... Somebody said something about "while nobody asked any questions about those tracks, Ford brought legal issues to the attention of the studios"...Thank you. That's very nice of you. (This is hardly an attack on the person of Mr Thaxton, I'm just expressing my regret about this.)In 99% of the time, when I'm browsing DVDs in a store, I look at the back of discs to find out about any possible isolated score. No score? What a pity. No buy neither. Really hope some studios read this! :spiny:Same here... Greetz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Anybody know what the next Goldsmith score will be? I have not been following him much. I hope he delivers some better work in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2004 Geez just check IMDB will ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 The Game of Their Lives, appears to be a stupid inspirational sports movie about an American soccer team that bea an English one in the 50's. It sounds like one of the most pathetic attempts to cash in on the world cup craze from a couple of years ago. They had to go back 50 years to find an American soccer team that won something. And he's doing the TV movie Empire Falls for frequent collaborator Fred Schepisi. He's worked with Schipisi on 5 other films, including I.Q. and the much loved Russia House. That actualy sounds far more interesting- it has one of the best casts ever in a TV movie, and one better than 99.9 percent of most theatricaly released ones. The cast includes: Dennis Farina, William Fichtner, Paul Newman, Estelle Parsons, Aidan Quinn, Joanne Woodward, Robin Wright Penn and the man himself - Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Oh and Ed Harris is the star And I know there's almost no connection, but yesterday I met Stephen Fry, who is one of the stars of I.Q. He's a really funny guy. He was in several of the Blackadders, Wilde, A Civil Action and Gosford Park among others. He was promoting his debut film as director, Bright Young Things. Morlock- who in the past year has met Christopher Reeve, Richard Gere and Whitney Huston (With her allegedly abusing husband)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2004 The Game of Their Lives, appears to be a stupid inspirational sports movie about an American soccer team that bea an English one in the 50's. It sounds like one of the most pathetic attempts to cash in on the world cup craze from a couple of years ago. They had to go back 50 years to find an American soccer team that won something.This film is directed by David Anspaugh, whom Jerry worked with before and created 2 very beloved scores Hoosiers and Rudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I couldn't comment on that, as I havn't seen Hoosiers or Rudy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2004 I've only heard Rudy in concert back in 2001, it's great.And yes, David Anspaugh makes those inspirational, life affirming sports movies that teach us that if we really put our mind to something, we will succeed.American audiences seem to gobble them up, and I just rather stick my finger in my troath.I personally don't like those kinda films, but they can produce good scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I dunno- I'm imagining something like The Natural for the Score. It just sounds like a Randy Newman story. I don't like any of those kinds of movies- I don't like Rocky, Karate Kid, The Power of One... Actualy, I guess I just don't John G. Avildsen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 While I think all the praise for Goldsmith's Timeline is overhyped, much like Nemesis, I will purchase the score since Varese is making the effort to release it.Plus I still enjoy listening to Jerry's music . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2004 Nemesis is hardly overhyped, i've heard of as much people being dissapointed with it ("it's no TMP"), as people who really liked it.I really like it, even though it's no TMP, but what it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I'd say nothing except TMP is TMP. Justin -Who find TMP to be no Nemesis. :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I think Nemesis is really underwhelming. I say again- TIMELINE IS GREAT! easily one of the top 5 scores written for a 2003 movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 The only actual Goldsmith soundtrack I have is Patton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 The only actual Goldsmith soundtrack I have is PattonYOU ONLY HAVE 1?!?!?Shame on you!!! Well ..... at least you have the best.Get Lioneart next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Sorry to ressurect this post, but I would like to know if there is any more news as to when exactly this will be released?By the way... have any of you ever heard the Bill Brown score for the old Timeline game (it came out in 1999). Its actually a pretty good score. I have the complete score of it (actually traded it with another score with Chris Crusher), but here are some tracks/clips at his site:http://bbmusic.crosswinds.net/musicG4.htm#TimelineSo there are actually 3 scores for Timeline. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 any more news as to when exactly this will be released?Nope, not so far. Patience.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 I just found 29 tracks of Goldsmith's Timeline on the Internet.I didn't knew, that it is already avaible!Very fine music, I can't wait to get the Varöse Edition Nemesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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