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Hahaha. It's because the child is half dwarf....

While I'm all for not making the compositional process seem more convoluted or clinical than it is, there is a bit more to it than that....

Wow, that is lovely. And what fine orchestrations by Shore!

That's pretty disappointing. I'm a fan of everything Tarantino has put out. Maybe he'll simmer down and go forward with it after all. I can't imagine how frustrated he must be though.

You're still a Joey nemesis.

Spray tans, stupid faces, horribly overdone makeup... she embodies it all.

That's a good place to start, yeah.

Fucking hell. Thanks for making me vomit all over my phone.

What's that?

Indeed.

Yes we are the same kind of people. I loved Breaking Bad and Zimmer is my homeboy. Despair, Cosman.

Oh yeah, not saying Shore's offering isn't great. Different though.

Meh, why compare? One was written with well-utilized time to plan and carefully construct, the other to fulfill the director's 11th hour whim. Apples and oranges.

It's all right. Gibson's great in it as you'd expect. Shore's score works fine, but of course couldn't adequately replace this given the amount of time he had. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=765mje8tW_E

I didn't purchase it myself, but Mrs. Pilgrim bought the Smithsonian's Music: The Definitive Visual History for the younglings while in DC. It's a substantial tome, and I'm going to start in on it tonight to make sure it's an acceptable source of education.

I'm pretty sure I've seen it in some of Jerry's earlier scores too.

Here's something I just found about Ives that seems to apply. http://books.google.com/books?id=vdaXlAeWjJgC&pg=PA140&lpg=PA140&dq=voicing+of+clusters+in+music&source=bl&ots=DR5k-ygOV4&sig=TIpV8UsmVIJ4BhbKkQNtKNZ4Ye0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jSnfUpbOFvPKsATX8oC4Ag&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=voicing%20of%20clusters%20in%20music&f=false

I'd just classify it as two clusters - one made by the violins, the other by the violas, celli, and basses - voiced over multiple octaves. No more wieldy term comes to mind to describe it, though there may very well be one. Actually, multi-octave juxtapositioning of secundal dyads has a nice ring to it. I'm reminded a bit of the opening sonority of Ligeti's Atmospheres, with each player on a different note of the 12 note scale over I think 5 octaves. The same principle could apply here, but with a different collection than the chromatic scale. There's no such juxtapositioning there though, just one clotted mass. You do often see Williams using a chromatic collection like this in an atonal context, but in voicings that de-emphasize much of the dissonant crunch. I think that's a key element of how he manages to write so densely without becoming incomprehensible. I'm looking through my Persichetti right now because I know he talks about something similar. The "softening" of dissonant structures through wide voicings.

Smug Nolan laughs smugly at that sentiment.

So? It's all pretty benign, and never to point of tastelessness. The penguin army is one the comic highlights of the film. I love absurdist humour. Never fails to have me rolling on the floor in laughter. When you've got character actors as strong as DeVito, Walken and Pfeiffer - who cares? DeVito's Penguin, the score, the witty and pop-literate screenplay and production design are just as impressive. What makes BATMAN RETURNS work better than the 89 film is Burton's romantic identification with the principle three characters and their plight - especially The Penguin's. For all of its humour, it's a film about belonging and alienation, themes close to Burton's heart - which is what makes it instantly more compelling than Nolan's detached, pretentious and strangely lifeless opuses. Why do I always find myself agreeing with you? Yeah... and fucked it up as badly Schumacher did. How dare you call Christopher Nolan lifeless?

With score, if you like. http://issuu.com/scoresondemand/docs/common_tones_in_simple_time_23702

Probably not. Looking at his filmography it doesn't seem like he's concerned with staying loyal to a composer, but just works with certain ones in spurts.

He should never have stopped working with Shore.

Gross.

Indeed. This is the kind of day that makes me feel the pull of the west coast. But I feel that every day.