Yavar Moradi

I love both Indiana Jones films and all four Indiana Jones scores. Yavar

I guarantee you would have been much MORE disappointed by a 2 hour movie adaptation (or even a 3 hour movie adaptation). Surely your disappointment in the 7 hour version was nothing to do with it being too stretched out? But I don't think being created as six-to-eight-hour movies is inherently what makes some of these six-to-eight-hour movies disappointing. Was Boba Fett really envisioned much differently from season 1 of The Mandalorian? Yet the latter turned out fantastic, IMO. And you similarly picked Falcon & Winter Soldier because it was the most disappointing of all the MCU Disney+ shows... but I don't think the length was the issue with that. There was some really great stuff in it which likely wouldn't have made it into a two hour movie. It just had a really sucky antagonist...something that can be said about many Marvel 2 hour movies. Yavar

I disagree. Just like with any other storytelling avenues -- sometimes they're bad, sometimes they're good, and sometimes they're great! I think that your criticism is clearly directed at something like Obi-Wan Kenobi. Fair. But what about Moon Knight? I for one am super glad that ended up as a six episode Disney+ series rather than a movie, as it really allowed characters and the world to be fleshed out much more. In fact by and large I think for Phase 4 of the MCU, the Disney+ "TV content" has far outclassed the theatrical releases! (Even though I really enjoyed Shang-Chi, I think it may have been even better as a six episode D+ show.) Netflix has been doing a GREAT job with some of those "six/eight/ten hour movies" -- two that especially come to mind are Scott Frank's Godless, and perhaps even moreso The Queen's Gambit. I think each of these were essentially seven hour movies, and they were WONDERFUL. The Queen's Gambit had been getting developed as a theatrical film for years and years, attached to various actresses... and thank GOODNESS it ended up as this seven hour limited Netflix series. I guarantee you that a two hour movie would have been a far weaker experience. Another I remember really liking was this one done a few years earlier by the BBC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Strange_%26_Mr_Norrell_(TV_series) They were adapting a beloved one-off novel which many people would have said to turn into a film. But that would have been crammed, with many important things cut out. A seven episode limited series was FAR better for this material. It's not always a matter of stretching things out that would have been better as a two hour film. You've got to assess these things on a case-by-case basis. Heck, even before the streaming era back in the mid-90s, the BBC Pride & Prejudice adaptation with Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth was done over six hourlong episodes and STILL for my money is the best Austen adaptation that's ever been done... far, FAR better than any of the 2 hour theatrical films that have attempted to capture the book. Yavar

Loved Hostiles (film especially, which I was fortunate enough to experience in theater, and the score was also good). Yavar

How do you figure? The BSX release had only ~20 minutes of Kamen synth stuff, in poor sound. The Intrada has 14+ minutes of Kamen orchestral stuff premiering, plus over an hour of Kamen's complete synth work...no doubt in much better sound than BSX's source. I was surprised there's apparently more Mancini too, but if you think the Mancini is "largely the same material", you could of course just purchase the Kamen alone to get the bulk of the previously unreleased music, which is about an hour's worth! Yavar

I feel sorry for anyone who hates on any of those films. Hilarious. Which scenes would those be, exactly? Sorry to hear that. I do. Lynn Collins as Dejah Thoris was incredibly badass in my book. And Willem Dafoe, of course. I will never understand people who hate on this great movie. It misses something if you don’t have the full context, but when I saw the film in theater this scene had me in tears: And it’s absolutely Giacchino’s greatest work for the big screen. Yavar

Hell yea. Never seen it? Yavar

And now, its companion! Furthermore, Doug Fake says the following: https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f Yavar

I agree it’s super cool. I think maaaaybe Intrada has done one before? LLL has done several: A bit more substantial… And the best of all was 10 years ago…a full on promotional mini-doc! Yavar

Boy Meets World is a wonderful show. My wife grew up with it and introduced me to it some time in the past decade or so. Sure some elements are dated but it's just so wholesome. I love it. Yavar

Second-best for me, behind Shang-Chi (even despite the messy CGI final act). But yeah Phase 4 has really been a disappointment in terms of films, even though I think the Disney+ shows have been much more consistently strong. Yavar

What a rip-off! Yavar

@Richard Penna you are confusing NoteForNote (run by Bryon Davis and Peter Hackman, both formerly Varese Sarabande employees) with Perseverance (run by Robin Esterhammer). It was the latter which originally released Rain Main in 2010 from substandard source materials (and also put out a really nice edition of Slipstream, which sadly was – apparently – not fully licensed). Notefornote put out a new (over 10 minutes longer and I think with much better sound, but I don't have either to verify) edition of Rain Man in 2018. From my experience both Bryon and Peter know what they are doing, and they properly licensed those early Zimmer/Stanley Myers LP programs from the label that owned them, to premiere them on CD. They did it all above board and put out releases that people roundly praised (I remember no complaints anyway -- apart from Zimmer's own weird comment!) Zimmer may have been miffed the albums of his early works were making the LP to CD journey without his involvement, but he's not the owner of those scores (they were works for hire) and IMO it's pretty shitty of him to dunk on the NoteForNote folks as if they did something wrong or shady. They only did what many labels have done before them, over and over: license the original LP album programs for a premiere release on CD. And they charged very reasonable prices, IIRC, so I don't see how that qualifies as a "rip off". It's even weirder because only one of those four albums they licensed from the label was pure Zimmer. One was pure Myers and two were Myers/Zimmer. Yavar

What happens in Empire that's fun (like the example of Luke and Leia swinging across in Star Wars), aside from the few bits I acknowledged? And adding up all the fun moments, do you really think they even come close in quantity/quality to the dark parts I listed? Can you at least acknowledge that the sequel film generally has a very different (and much darker) tone than the original Star Wars, and that there's therefore some room to push the boundaries of tone/story content in the Star Wars universe? I'll be surprised if there aren't a few moments of fun here and there in Andor... Rogue One had them, after all. Also, even the original (much more fun) Star Wars has pretty dark moments which would seem like they would fit in well with Andor (Luke's aunt and uncle murdered, Leia interrogated with drugs, the destruction of the entire planet of Alderaan??) It is still about "the last remnants of the Old Republic" being "swept away" (when the Senate is dissolved), after all, before the Death Star is (barely in time) destroyed. Yavar

I love Nott's work on Wallace and Gromit but if I'm honest I would never give up the score which Chicken Run ultimately received, which I think is easily among the best work from either composer. I could never love the score less than I do. But I'd love to hear whatever demos Nott wrote... I wonder if that promo reel ever ended up on YouTube or something. Yavar

He's not only directing some, but I think he's one of the two showrunners actually! Yavar

Absolutely! I know that both Goldsmith and Herrmann did a lot of CBS radio scoring I just didn't recall Williams doing any. Yavar

Yes, that was Star Wars (1977). Have you seen this little 1980 sequel film called The Empire Strikes Back? Are you seriously going to tell me THAT is "a fun adventure"? And that was following the FUN movie, not three terribly-executed prequels where a lot of horribly bad shit happens which should definitely have an effect on Obi-Wan. (How, given the setup/background for the character, did you expect Obi-Wan to be "fun adventure"?) (SPOILER WARNING FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, lol...) 1. Opens with Luke being attacked by a monster, his tauntaun eaten...he barely survives thanks to Han and weeks in a bacta tank, but he's still permanently scarred. Up next is the Rebel Alliance utterly losing the battle on Hoth; our heroes split up, barely escape and most of them spend the rest of the film on the run. 2. Han and Leia have a few cute romantic moments here and there while they're on the run, and I guess the brief mynock cave sequence was *mildly* fun in a "haha we barely escaped being eaten" sort of way. Then they end up at Cloud City, where Han's old friend Lando betrays them to the Empire/Darth Vader. C-3PO gets blown into pieces, while Han (and presumably Leia and Chewie too) is tortured at length ("They never even asked me any questions") simply to lure Luke into Vader's trap. Then Han is torn away from Leia and Chewie and put into carbon freeze, a process intended as capital punishment for murderers and such. Sometimes people don't survive it, but he does ("in perfect hibernation") because Harrison Ford hadn't decided yet whether he'd come back for the third movie. (What an iconic fun sequence that was!) 3. Luke spends a long time training to be a Jedi with Yoda... I guess the introduction of Yoda with R2D2 is a bit fun, yes, but most of the Jedi training isn't really fun at all... and sometimes it's pretty damn dark (the cave). Through the force, Luke senses Han/Chewbacca/Leia being tortured by Vader, foolishly decides to cut his training short and go rescue them. This, suffice to say, does not happen. His presence on Cloud City doesn't make anything better; he is easily defeated by Darth Vader who toys with him and then chops off his hand. Oh, and reveals that he is Luke's father. Luke screams that's impossible but he knows it's true, and he essentially chooses to commit suicide, letting go and falling hundreds of feet down the shaft to a port which almost dumps him into the atmosphere of a gas giant. He himself is the one who needs rescuing, and in a neat twist on the original Star Wars film, the no-longer-plucky hero is rescued by the PRINCESS, who forces Lando (who, oh yeah... changed sides again and freed her and Chewie to try and save Han even though that failed) to go back for him. (HOLLYWOOD WOKENESS ALERT! ) The movie ends on a semi-hopeful note but very uncertain/murky future. Now by your criteria, I think the vast majority of The Empire Strikes Back would be considering "all too serious" in tone. I agree Andor won't have the tone of Star Wars (1977) but I think Andor will more take the tone of its sequel, which is equally beloved/revered today (and which many people consider still the greatest Star Wars film of all... containing arguably the LOWEST percentage of "fun" out of all nine films making up the Skywalker saga, no matter how bad the majority of those were in terms of execution.) As I keep trying to express: the Star Wars universe can cover *many* different elements, and types of tone/story, and even the original trilogy showed that. And that's a STRENGTH which will potentially/hopefully lead to it not getting stale. Yavar

Do you mean JG? I wasn't aware of (m)any radio scores by JW. Can you point me towards some? Yavar

Welp now I gotta go listen to Human Target again, thanks…. Yavar

I'm not sure you can judge Kamen's contribution fairly from that very poor sounding 20 minutes of synth stuff that was previously released. I suggest waiting for sound samples from Intrada on Monday night, which will no doubt include some examples from his orchestral score too. Yavar

There may be only minor tweaks to the Mancini, but I'm expecting the Kamen to be a major upgrade, to justify getting its own album... Yavar

So if we get a Season 4, will The Orville be thrown to the other side of the Galaxy and have to start a long journey home? Yavar

“Supposedly” is a pretty big red flag on that whole thing… Yavar