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9 hours ago, mahler3 said:
Thanks Ricard & Jason. Hope to see many JWFans in London next month. Something special is also being planned the day before this concert so mark your diary. More info soon!
Oh, and seeing as you asked so nicely:
Episode 1: The Phantom Menace
Star Wars Main Theme and Arrival at Naboo (03:00)
The Flag Parade (03:00)
Anakin’s Theme (04:00)
Duel of the Fates (04:00) with SATB Choir
Episode 2: Attack of the Clones
Across the Stars (05:00)
Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith
Battle of the Heroes (04:00) with SATB Choir
Episode 4: A New Hope
The Cantina Band (02:00)
Here They Come! (02:00)
Princess Leia’s Theme (04:00)
Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back
The Asteroid Field (04:00)
Yoda’s Theme (03:00)
Han Solo and the Princess (05:00)
Carbon Freeze & The Imperial March (04:00)
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LUCASFILM LOGO FANFARE (30 secs)
Episode 6: Return of the Jedi
The Forest Battle (04:00)
Luke and Leia (05:00)
Parade of the Ewoks (04:00)
Episode 7: The Force Awakens
March of the Resistance (02:00)
Rey’s Theme (03:00)
X-Wing Scherzo (2:30)
Episode 8: The Last Jedi
The Rebellion is Reborn (04:00)
Episode 9: The Rise of Skywalker
The Rise of Skywalker (5:00)
Rey and Ben (3:00)
The Adventures of Han Solo from Solo: A Star Wars Story (04:00)
great to see that program, better curated than the story in music concert, IMO. Especially the complete, not cut, Rise of Skywalker and Rey and Ben pieces! Probably no recording of this concert, right?
Which arrangement of Cantina Band will you play? Sid Ramin's?
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2 hours ago, Falstaft said:
Segueing immediately to the ESB version of the End Credits
They played ESB? I thought they chose the ANH credits.
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33 minutes ago, King Mark said:
Is this JW?
No, William Ross.
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On 23/08/2023 at 7:26 PM, michael_grig said:
A small breakdown of the changes that were necessary, probably to tighten up the dramaturgy a bit:
Main Title – HL SE (till bar 73)
Flag Parade – HL SE (bar 9-56 cut, bar 95-104 cut, bar 132-139cut)
Anakin’s Theme – JKMS Typeset (w/ JW fixes 07/25/23)
Duel Of The Fates – HL SE (bar 21-85cut, bar 104-137 cut)
Across The Stars – HL SE
General Grievous (BPO Edited Version – July 2023)
Enter Lord Vader (BPO Edited Version – July 2023)
Leia’s Theme – HL SE
Binary Sunset (BPO Edited Version – July 2023)
Cantina Band (Sid Ramin Boston Pops Arrangement) - HL
Asteroid Field – HL SE (bar 69-136 cut)
Yoda’s Theme – HL SE
Imperial March – HL SE
Jabba The Hutt – Short version for SW: The Story in Music [23bars]
Luke & Leia – SW Musical Journey 2009
Parade of the Ewoks – HL SE
Forest Battle – HL SE (bar 3-14cut, bar 137-153 cut)
March of the Resistance – HL SE
Rey's Theme – HL SE
Scherzo for X-Wings – HL SE
The Jedi Steps – HL SE
Chrome Dome (BPO Edited Version – July 2023)
Rebellion – HL SE (bar56-99 cut)
Speeder Chase – [unreleased] HL SE (bar 62-114 cut)
Rey and Ben – [unreleased] HL SE
The Rise of Skywalker – [unreleased] HL SE (only until bar 104 –
attaca to “Throne Room & End Title” – HL SE (from bar 107 to end))
Little edit: Apparently they will only play the first 15 bars of Rey and Ben... :( (which equals 00:00-0:48 of "Farewell" from the OST. Don't know how they will edit that, a direct segue to The Rise of Skywalker, @BSOinsider?
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7 minutes ago, rough cut said:
I wish Spotify didn't have this stupid feature that turns the progess bar into a lightsaber whenever you listen to anything Star Wars related. It doesn't even have to be a Star Wars release, it shows up for individual tracks as well. For example, on the Violin Concerto No. 2 album from Deutsche Grammophon.
Stupid.
I think this is the coolest thing ever.
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21 minutes ago, ragoz350 said:
Didn't expect such a "suite" ending here. It would have been strange to perform this as a separate piece, but paired with The Rise of Skywalker it would have been excellent at a concert.
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed to only see this few bars being new when getting the score. I don't know if I'm just TOO used to how the cue goes on, but I found it pretty unsatisfying, to be honest.
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There are no encores, at least not as part of the official program of this series...
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I'm sad that they didn't include the Adagio from The Force Awakens instead of one of the other TFA pieces.... it really deserves more performances
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11 minutes ago, DangerMotif said:
Any idea why he tinkered with it 20+ years later?
He cares about his opus, as every artist does.
We don't have any information about a broadcast yet, do we?
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5 minutes ago, Tom said:
No, there are some very noticeable revisions. If the Film Night concert is still streaming, you can hear it there.
So this version already premiered? That's good to know!
Yeah it's still up: https://www.classicalwcrb.org/show/the-boston-symphony-orchestra/2023-06-08/john-williams-film-night
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A small breakdown of the changes that were necessary, probably to tighten up the dramaturgy a bit:
Main Title – HL SE (till bar 73)
Flag Parade – HL SE (bar 9-56 cut, bar 95-104 cut, bar 132-139cut)
Anakin’s Theme – JKMS Typeset (w/ JW fixes 07/25/23)
Duel Of The Fates – HL SE (bar 21-85cut, bar 104-137 cut)
Across The Stars – HL SE
General Grievous (BPO Edited Version – July 2023)
Enter Lord Vader (BPO Edited Version – July 2023)
Leia’s Theme – HL SE
Binary Sunset (BPO Edited Version – July 2023)
Cantina Band (Sid Ramin Boston Pops Arrangement) - HL
Asteroid Field – HL SE (bar 69-136 cut)
Yoda’s Theme – HL SE
Imperial March – HL SE
Jabba The Hutt – Short version for SW: The Story in Music [23bars]
Luke & Leia – SW Musical Journey 2009
Parade of the Ewoks – HL SE
Forest Battle – HL SE (bar 3-14cut, bar 137-153 cut)
March of the Resistance – HL SE
Rey's Theme – HL SE
Scherzo for X-Wings – HL SE
The Jedi Steps – HL SE
Chrome Dome (BPO Edited Version – July 2023)
Rebellion – HL SE (bar56-99 cut)
Speeder Chase – [unreleased] HL SE (bar 62-114 cut)
Rey and Ben – [unreleased] HL SE (unitll bar 15)
The Rise of Skywalker – [unreleased] HL SE (only until bar 104 –
attaca to “Throne Room & End Title” – HL SE (from bar 107 to end))
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Does somebody know if the theme we hear at 53:30 of Episode 1 is a new one for this show or was it used in any Kiner project before? Absolutely loving it.
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oh haha just delete it then
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- Episode I: The Phantom Menace惑星タトゥイーン到着～フラッグ・パレードThe Flag ParadeアナキンのテーマAnakin’s Theme運命の闘いDuel of the Fates
- エピソード II: クローンの攻撃Episode II: Attack of the Clonesアクロス・ザ・スターズ（「クローンの攻撃」愛のテーマ）Across the Stars
- エピソード III: シスの復讐Episode III: Revenge of the Sithグリーバス将軍General Grievousベイダー卿、登場Enter Lord Vader
- エピソード IV: 新たなる希望Episode IV: A New Hope王女レイアのテーマPrincess Leia’s Themeバイナリー サンセットBinary Sunset酒場のバンドCantina Bande
- エピソード V: 帝国の逆襲Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back小惑星の原野The Asteroid FieldヨーダのテーマYoda’s Themeダース・ベイダーのマーチThe Imperial March
- INTERMISSION 20 MIN / 休憩 20分
- エピソード VI: ジェダイの帰還Episode VI: Return of the Jediジャバ・ザ・ハットJabba the HuttルークとレイアLuke & Leiaイウォーク族のパレードParade of the Ewoks森林での戦いThe Forest Battle
- エピソード VII: フォースの覚醒Episode VII: The Force AwakensレジスタンスのマーチMarch of the ResistanceレイのテーマRey’s ThemeXウイングのためのスケルツォScherzo for X-Wingsジェダイへの階段 ～フィナーレ～The Jedi Steps
- エピソード VIII: 最後のジェダイEpisode VIII: The Last Jedi金属頭Chrome Dome極秘作戦The Rebellion is Reborn
- エピソード IX: スカイウォーカーの夜明けEpisode IX: The Rise of Skywalkerスピーダー・チェイスThe Speeder Chaseスカイウォーカーの夜明けFarewell The Rise of Skywalker
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Not sure if this is exactly the right thread, but I was able to put together "Rey and Ben" from the Star Wars 9 Suite.
As we already know, it relies heavily on the "Farewell" track from the OST, but it does not include the part from 02:50-03:07 (which could confirm that this part is 10m1 Rey and Ren, if it's not included in the concert version and has another reel number it probably was written last minute because of edits to the scene):
and at 3:52 of the OST track, where it would transition into the victory scene, there's another cut to a rather ominous ending section, which I had to mock up with virtual instruments:
My source for this are leaked orchestral parts for an upcoming Star Wars concert, so there is a small chance this piece could be shortened and edited, but for all the other pieces of this concert that had cuts/edits, it was clearly noted in the sheet music. In the parts of Rey and Ben there is no indication that this has happened.
(Of course, there is also slightly reduced instrumentation for the concert version, as with many Signature Editions, I have not considered that here).
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On 20/08/2023 at 2:44 PM, DangerMotif said:
Is it confirmed that they even have a chior? If they’re just doing DOTF wouldn’t it be more likely that it’s without a chior?
Okay, apparently they have no chorus, so the beginning choral part of DOTF will be played by the brass as noted in the sheet music from the TPM suite.
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34 minutes ago, Pat_S said:
Thanks for responding - that's a shame, but I knew this was a possibility. Riding the Lizard does begin the OST track 'General Grievous, so you're definitely right. It's a strange choice, you'd think. I don't think either of those two are the most popular cues from the OST. Perhaps Williams is fond of them, or something like that.
It is indeed strange, if I had to choose 2 pieces from ROTS for a concert like this, I would choose Anakin's Dark Deeds (especially if they have a choir there already for DotF!) and Immolation Scene, they somehow represent the movie better.
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On 03/08/2023 at 3:41 AM, Pat_S said:
This is just a theory, so don't take anything I'm saying here as fact - but Mark Graham recently posted on Instagram this picture: https://www.instagram.com/p/CvdIKBiSt4Z/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA. I recognise the cue as being Riding the Lizard from Revenge of the Sith. The recent date in the bottom left seems to imply that this version of the score has been prepared recently (and that he's not just looking in the archives for fun). (Keep in mind I have no idea how the JKMS library is set up - this could mean nothing). Perhaps this part of the score is being prepared for a future concert (which seems an odd choice), or maybe even an LTP performance of Revenge of the Sith (though the formatting is a little different to other LTP scores I've seen).. Any thoughts?
Unfortunately it's not for an LTP, but as part of an upcoming Star Wars concert...
This are the cues from the prequels that have been prepared for this concert:
2 FlagParade
3 AnakinsTheme
4 DuelFates
5 AcrossStars
6 GeneralGrievous (the screenshot probably shows the beginning of this piece)
7 EnterLordVader
... alas
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Is anything known about the program for these two concerts?
https://www.bso.org/events/john-williams-tribute
One has a violin soloist, and the other a piano soloist. What could they play?
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https://www.bso.org/events/boston-pops-star-wars-music
A part of this program will feature pieces from the Suite, a source tells me it's an excerpt(?) of Speeder Chase, Rey and Ben and TROS with an attaca to End Credits. Are any of you going there?
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3 hours ago, Bayesian said:
I thought I’d bump this thread to ask if any of the papers, keynotes, or sessions from this conference ever made it online. Anyone know?
yeah!
https://mediaserveur.univ-evry.fr/channels/#john-williams
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3 hours ago, karelm said:
I think this point is worth exploring further. What does exceptional skill even look like? @michael_grig, you are ultimately asking does a master think of chords or harmony when crafting a theme? That's a question that only makes sense to a student. This is also the same question JW might have asked 60 years ago. So you can't ask that same question of a modern JW and have it make any real sense.
Are you suggesting that Williams doesn't really think about chords or scales at all, and that he has rather built all of it into his musical DNA over a long time and now the "modern Williams" only relies on this instinct?
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That's very helpful, thanks a lot!
So is it right to say that Williams has not chords in mind when composing, but scales?
32 minutes ago, Loert said:Now, if JW had left it like this, the melody would sound bare and lonely. So to make it sound more fanfare-ish, he "harmonizes" the melody by adding two more notes below each note in the main melody line. This is the 3rd part. But what tones does he use? He simply chooses tones from the mode he is in. Which mode should he pick? First, let's spell out the tones we already have:
I actually just played different notes from D ionian harmonizing the melody and it sounds very similar, so he really just chose random notes I guess? That's so cool XD.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!
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How do they even shift the pitch and still keep the good quality? I tried in Audacity and even Melodyne, the results were decent but nowhere close to being in a quality like the original!