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  1. To be fair, the three volumes for Azkaban exist mainly because of the large number of alternate versions, which makes it a difficult comparison.
  2. To add to this, it's fairly easy to tell from the sheet score which cues were written entirely by Williams, thanks to the subtle details in their respective orchestration and tempo markings. I once put together a speculative list of cues likely written by JW: 1M1 Prologue: Book II (both original and revised versions) 1M3 Introducing Dobbie (later reworked in Dobbie The House Elf) 2M3 The Flying Car (probably with the last bars of 2M2) 2M4A Car Escapes 2M8A Mailing Delivery Insert (this insert Ross incorporated into 2M8) 2M10 Gilderoy Lockhart 4M3 Moaning Myrtle 5M5 Fawkes Is Reborn (later used in Fawkes The Phoenix) 7M2 The Spiders 7M4 The Spiders 7M4 Spiders Pt.2 Ending 8M3 Fawkes Delivers the Hat 8M5 Dueling the Dragon However, it's also likely that JW provided Ross with musical fragments to incorporate into other cues (like the "chordal" rendition of Hedwig's theme in 1M9 and 7M1). Overall, the logic of how the cues were divided is quite clear: Williams wrote the cues that introduced all the new themes, which Ross could then use elsewhere. The main exception seems to be the Chamber of Secrets theme; it appears JW wrote the album version from the start for Ross to work from. A fun bit of proof is the original 8M7-9M1 Fawkes Heals Harry. Probably the album version of Fawkes the Phoenix hadn't been written yet, so Ross had to work from the shorter version of the theme from JW's 5M5 and 8M3.
  3. I stumbled upon a presentation from 2016(!) about the Trevor Jones Archive at the University of Leeds. The talk was about the history of the Pod Dance versions from The Dark Crystal. Unfortunately, the text of the talk is unavailable, but the presentation has a table describing the different versions and mixes. Excluding alternate mixes, there were three versions, all recorded before filming began (the names in all caps are archival identifiers). The presentation also includes scans of 3 track sheets, which also give an idea of the early versions of the Funerals (it's noticeable that the Skeksis' Funeral had a version without(?) synths). The slides are available in PDF here. P.S. I'd love to hear the 2nd version with the orchestral strings. Still, it's great that all this material was saved.
  4. Seeing these works makes you wonder how many composers have secretly studied many of JW's scores, and apply those skills so well in projects like this.
  5. Apparently, all these revisions (for cues 6m4, 6m7, and 6m9) were made after the orchestration but before the recording session. Notably, JW didn't revise every single statement of the theme, leaving the theme's original form in a couple of places for the sake of variety. I suspect this is also the reason he didn't alter the opening of the first DVD version.
  6. First thought: the pitch in Jen Plays Pipes Second thought: oh
  7. Doesn't the final film use the OST version, though? Sounds like an odd directorial preference (maybe someone got used to the voice on the demo and wanted to bring that performer back?)
  8. Films: The Empire Strikes Back A New Hope The Last Jedi Return of the Jedi Revenge of the Sith The Force Awakens The Phantom Menace Attack of the Clones The Rise of Skywalker Scores: I can definitely name my top 3: The Phantom Menace The Empire Strikes Back A New Hope And I can only compare the others within the trilogies: OT: ESB ANH ROTJ PT: TPM ROTS AOTC ST: TLJ TFA TROS
  9. When my brain tries to remember some JW's bumper for NBC News, it sometimes plays this insert.
  10. Tiny edit in Buckbeak's Flight (Prisoner of Azkaban). Apparently JW's idea was to have the cue's climax match the wide shot, but the editors cut 2 seconds of music shortly before to make the climax syncs with Harry's scream. Very elegant. (timestamp: 3:33)
  11. I did something very strange.
  12. Still, it's a shame that Williams and Wannberg's great efforts to edit the score (prior to recording) were of little use, as snippets from Duel of the Fates replaced a lot of the original material in the final edit.
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