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  1. @BB-8Do you think this is a direct quotation? It doesn't read that way to me. They certainly sound rather similar, but I don't think it's a case of JW directly nodding to Vaughan Williams
  2. I suppose one could also read it as a continuation of the Cantina Band's space jazz aesthetic, and JW's own personal taste influencing the sounds of the galaxy.
  3. Ireland's National Symphony Orchestra included it at the JW 90th birthday concert: (1:59:07) They also included it as part of a May the Fourth concert which I believe was broadcast on the radio (RTÉ Lyric FM), but can't seem to find a record of it in an archive.
  4. @artguy360 Oh really? I could've sworn they were both in it. I play them at the piano more than I've watched the movie, so I just assumed...
  5. Interesting! I wonder, in these types of instances, if that is a Williams or a Spielberg choice? And in this case, is it Williams setting/arrangement the cue, or a traditional arrangement?
  6. Love that! And Two Martini Lunch too! Although there's no evidence of them being source music, I think it's one of those instances where the tracks are so different from the rest of the score, and the narrative setting is slightly different, that we have to assume they're taking place in the filmic world.
  7. Brilliant! Watched it last night! It really isn't very good; felt like a slog to get through I caught 'Rule Britannia' and the 'Wedding March', but there were definitely some famous marching tunes that I just didn't know the names of. I also found a bunch of the other comedies on YouTube, so thanks so much for pointing that out to me! Good one! Can't believe I forgot that. I have to get into Always. One of the few Spielberg films that I've only seen the once. Don't listen to the OST must either. Thanks for these. I'll edit my first comment to compile all these together!
  8. Interesting! I'm not too familiar with some of those 60s comedies, I'll have to check it out! I knew I recognised Mallow in 1941, couldn't place it at the time! (Verry embarrassing, as an Irish person). Can't say I recall/know The Towering Inferno example though? Ah good one! I'd forgotten about that. There seems to be a fair few. Much more than I thought; but unsurprising given the sheer amount of music.
  9. I watched How to Steal A Million for the first time the other day and was struck by JW quoting "La Marseillaise". It reminded me of Steiner and Casablanca. I wonder if it's a direct homage, or just that they both did the same thing for similar reasons. But it had me wondering... How often does JW directly quote other pieces in both his film and concert works? Not just homaging/imitating/playing in a style of Romantic or old Hollywood composer, but specifically recalling a different tune; and not him quoting himself, like Yoda's theme in E.T., or Jaws in 1941; or something that really sounds like something else, but wouldn't be an intended citation (like Siegfried in Kenobi or 'Twelve Days of Christmas' in Sugarland Express). I can think of a few obvious ones, but don't know if there are more. La Marseillaise - How to Steal a Million Campton Races - The Reivers When You Wish Upon A Star - Close Encounters Der Rosenkavalier - A.I. Tis The Gift to Be Simple - 'Air and Simple Gifts' and there are those folk tunes in Lincoln, but I'm unsure of how involved he was with them? Edit [other suggestions]: Jealousy & Rule Britannia & Wedding March & Stars and Stripes Forever - Not With My Wife You Don't We May Never Love Like This Again - The Towering Inferno Spanish Ladies - Jaws Rakes of Mallow & Deep in the Heat of Texas & Hooray for Hollywood & Deutschland Über Alles - 1941 The Stars and Stripes Forever - Pops on the March The British Grenadiers - Empire of the Sun New York, New York (from On the Town) & America (from West Side Story) & Happy Birthday To You (from your last birthday) - For New York (Variations on Themes of Leonard Bernstein) Garryowen & When Smoke Gets in Your Eyes - Always Take Me Out to the Ball Game - Hook Carol of the Bells & We Wish You a Merry Christmas - Home Alone 1 We Wish You A Merry Christmas - Home Alone 2 La Vie En Rose - Sabrina Buglar's Dream - Olympic Fanfare Here Comes The Bride - The Terminal Academic Festival Overture - Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Je Veux Vivre - The Adventures of Tintin Happy Birthday to You - Happy Birthday Variations Brazil - SW The Last Jedi Hooray for Hollywood - Centennial Overture (for the Hollywood Bowl)
  10. I suspect, like Göransson, Holt will hold off on using Williams's motifs, and savour them for weighty scenes. It might give them more dramatic weight if we don't hear them that often. I'd rather hear her own interpretations of the SW world. Calling that when Ben uses his lightsaber first, or at a similar 'big' moment, then we'll get the force theme.
  11. That's a splendid overview of his relationship to the "old masters", which would also be an appropriate Coda to his (presumably) last entry into the Star Wars tapestry. This is my headcanon now!
  12. I see, that's a fair point to consider actually! I misread your original post. I recall that quote too. Interesting to consider if these types Qs in interview have eventually and inadvertently caused the Wagnerian similarities to emerge, whether consciously or not.
  13. @Fabulin I really don't think JW would be so on-the-nose as to quote/homage it directly. I think it's just a very similar type of sound resulting from the common musical blueprints used for a noble/heroic-type themes (not in the big brash fanfare vein): dotted martial rhythms, yearning leaps (the m6 in both), which can be preceded by downtrodden stepwise descents, and, of course, solo horn
  14. I agree. Although to be fair it is put on. It's a "character" he's playing. (I assume against his will)
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