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Do you have a certain movement in mind? Purely emotionally, I feel Williams' concerto is more sad in character. I should give another listen to Bartok's 2nd Violin Concerto to bring some clear example (it's a long time since last time I listened to it), but I remember that the structure and the general tone was very similar. Williams' concerto is indeed sadder and more contemplative (especially the 2nd movement, which is probably one of the most beautiful things Williams ever put on music paper), but I tend to believe this composition is a very personal affair for him: it started as his first attempt to a very demanding symphonic "serious" piece, but in the end it became something in which he probably put a lot of his personal struggle of that moment (i.e.: his wife Barbara's passing).

Yes Five Sacred Trees is an absolutely fantastic concerto! Williams' best in my opinion. And Violin Concerto is certainly not far behind. I agree. In my book, Five Sacred Trees is Williams' best concerto, followed by the Horn Concerto and the Cello Concerto. I absolutely love the Violin Concerto, but I see it's a tad more derivative (there's a strong resemblance with Bartòk's 2nd Violin Concerto IMHO).

It could be also The Goonies by Dave Grusin.

Temple of Doom was spectacularly recorded by the great Bruce Botnick and I found it one of the best recorded JW score ever. The LP always sounded great, but I always thought that the CD doesn't sound as good, it's too compressed in several spots. Let's hope Concord used the original session tapes for this new release.

I agree. It's likely this new release has been prepared by Laurent Bouzereau or someone from Williams' camp. We already now that both Matessino and Redman are not involved in this release, but I'm hoping that someone from FSM or other specialty labels has been hired as creative consultant for this release. Since Doug Adams unexpectedly premiered some unreleased stuff from Temple of Doom during a FSM podcast a few months ago, maybe he's the guy.

If you think that George Lucas is personally involved in these kind of releases, you're completely on the wrong track. He has plenty of people who work for him for promotion, publicity, licensing and PR.

Let's hope for some video features or, more wishfully, some other unreleased cues that didn't find space on the CDs. However, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced this release will be the Indy equivalent of the Star Wars Anthology boxset. And that's a good thing IMHO. Yes, they still are not complete, but it's great to have some vintage unreleased Indy music finally available. Also, I think it's very likely the expanded ToD and LC will be 77-80 minutes CDs, so there's room for many great unreleased cues on both.

I'm a fan of good music, with an endless admiration and love for Johnny Williams.

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I agree wholeheartadly and that's a good attitude in life. But since we're not talking about very serious or important things here, I find there's nothing wrong in doing a simple game of speculation. I agree maybe some people take this things too damn seriously, but if we succeed in keeping this into the frame of a sort of playful thing, I'm all for it. If anybody don't like these kind of games, well, he/she could always stay out and forget about it. It's always very presumptuos to say to people how they have to behave.

Yep, all the Indy movies are scored almost wall-to-wall.

I agree. According to the complete Raiders cue list posted on the FSM board (and quoted here by someone else), I've done some maths and I think it's very likely we'll get the complete "Well of the Souls" track as heard only on the DCC double LP so far. If my calculations are right, with the new unreleased tracks we'd have a CD totaling 79:45. The only cues that would still be missing are "The Poisoning" and "The Mummy Cave". So the track list with times should be something like this: 01. In the Jungle (04:10) 02. The Idol Temple (3:56) 03. Escape from the Temple (1:34) 04. Flight from Peru (2:20) 05. Washington Men/Indy's Home (1:08) 06. A Thought for Marion/To Nepal (2:11) 07. The Medallion (2:54) 08. Flight to Cairo (1:30) 09. The Basket Game (5:04) 10. Bad Dates (0:25) 11. The Map Room/Dawn (3:52) 12. Reunion in the Tent/Searching for the Well (4:11) 13. The Well of the Souls (11:29) 14. Indy Rides the Statue (1:06) 15. The Fist Fight/The Flying Wing (4:37) 16. Desert Chase (8:17) 17. Marion's Theme/The Crate (2:08) 18. The German Sub (1:14) 19. Ride to the Nazi Hideout (3:18) 20. Indy Follows the Ark (1:33) 21. The Miracle of the Ark (6:05) 22. Washington Ending & Raiders March (6:17) Total Time: 79:45 As for Temple of Doom, the complete score (without concert arrangements or source music) is around 100 minutes, while Last Crusade is more or less 112-115 minutes.

Actually the complete version of "Belly of the Steel Beast" is somewhat a mystery. It appears that Williams originally scored a shorter version of that sequence, but then the scene was re-edited and expanded, so he has to rewrite some portions in order to accomodate the new edit. It was reported that no less than three different versions of that cue actually exist and, if I'm correct, what is heard on the film soundtrack is an edit of those.

Well, since I have some time to kill right now, I'm trying to put down the potential track list for Temple of Doom and Last Crusade expanded (not complete) versions. For the former I'll use track titles from the John Takis cue-by-cue analysis, while for the latter I'll use track titles from the OST and the bootleg Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Expanded Edition - This is a just speculation, NOT the actual track list! 1. Anything Goes (2:49) 2. Deal for the Diamond */Too Much to Drink * (6:20) 3. Fast Streets of Shanghai (3:39) 4. Over the Himalayas * (3:23) 5. Slalom on Mt. Humol (2:22) 7. "They Stole the Children" * (2:54) 8. Fortune and Glory */Short Round's Theme (3:15) 9. The Legend of Sankara */Trek to Pankot Palace * (4:13) 10. Nocturnal Activities (5:53) 11. Bug Tunnel and Death Trap (3:28) 12. The Temple of Doom (2:58) 13. Stealing the Stones * (2:32) 14. Children in Chains (2:42) 15. A True Believer * (5:45) 16. Slave Children's Crusade (3:22) 17. Underground Heroics * (4:40) 18. The Mine Car Chase (3:38) 19. Water! */Cliff Confrontation * (4:39) 20. "You Betrayed Shiva!" */The Troops Arrive * (4:01) 21. Finale and End Credits (film version) * (8:51) Total time: 78:42 -- This would be a neat presentation, with all the best unreleased tracks Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Expanded Edition -- This is just a speculation, NOT the actual track list! 01. Indy's Very First Adventure (08:11) 02. Circus Train * (03:38) 03. Portuguese Coast, 1938 * (02:14) 04. The Diary of Professor Jones * (02:19) 05. Journey to Venice / X Marks The Spot (03:07) 06. Ah, Rats!!! (03:38) 07. Escape From Venice (04:21) 08. To Castle Brunwald * (00:39) 09. The Two Joneses * (02:05) 10. Elsa's Betrayal * (01:58) 11. Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra (03:49) 12. No Ticket (02:42) 13. Leaving The Zeppelin * (01:24) 14. Keeping Up With the Joneses (03:36) 15. Reunited With Sallah / The Tank (01:54) 16. Belly of the Steel Beast (05:26) 19. Canyon of the Crescent Moon (04:15) 20. Professor Jones is Shot / The Penitent Man Will Pass * (02:51) 21. The Name of God / A Leap of Faith (03:22) 22. The Keeper of the Grail (03:21) 23. Donovon's Death / The Power of the Grail * (04:27) 24. Finale and End Credits (Raiders March) (10:36) Total Time: 79:50 -- Yes, a wealth of great stuff would still be missing, but it would be cool to have a fully crammed CD like this one. And in case someone still thinks this is the real deal: This is just a speculation, NOT the actual track list!

I think people here are becoming a little too obsessed with semantics minutiae. Just be patient and wait until we have some more official confirmation about all this. I very much understand the hype, since we ALL want to have more classic Indiana Jones music released, but it becomes very anal-retentive and boring to discuss every single words and commas of a press release. Let's keep our fingers crossed and let's hope for something that could satisfy the most of us.

I very much hope the Bonus Interview CD will contain some unreleased cues/alternate takes from all four films, à là SW Anthology boxset. It would be awesome to have also some video features with JW. No screensavers or videogame trailers, please!

According to Neil's interview here on JWFan.com, Matessino isn't involved in these releases. However, I think that maybe some of the FSM guys or even Nick Redman could be part of this project. When Doug Adams premiered the ToD unreleased bits on the FSM podcast and people started to ask where they had taken those cues, he kept silent about it. Now, I'm pretty convinced this boxset is principally aimed at John Williams/Film Music fans and collectors.

Awesome news! The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced this will be like 1993 Star Wars Anthology Boxset: expanded scores from all three films on single discs and bonus CD with unreleased cues and alternates takes.

Sometimes less is more. Take the TPM UE, I'm convinced it sounds so good simply because Murphy probably didn't have a chance to mess with it. Well, the OT selections on the Musical Journey DVD were completely remixed by Shawn Murphy, so I guess we can't really say he's the cause of all the bad things.

He came close a few years ago. He suffered a serious head injury but appears to have recovered. And seemingly semi-retired, unfortunately. I don't think he's semi-retired. He simply prefers to work on projects outside the Hollywood circle.

Better to leave Erich's soul in peace. Those movies are terribily overrated and the Zimmer/Badelt scores are what they deserve.

. The Exorcist - Bernard Herrmann . To Live and Die in L.A. - It would have been great to have Jerry Goldsmith in his Extreme Prejudice/Runaway mode for this other Friedkin gem . Fight Club - Howard Shore Oh, and of course The Color Purple by John Williams.

I received the CD yesterday too (I just came back from my summer vacation) and listened to it all the afternoon and evening. Guys, prepare yourself for a real treat. This is a towering achievement, a wonderful reading of one of the all-time best epic film scores. Nic Raine and the City of Prague Philharmonic really outdid themselves. There's an impressive energy throughout all the performance, the recording is amazing, crisp and detailed (make sure you listen to it through a real stereo system at a high volume!) and the packaging is very well-done, especially the copious liner notes. This is a must-have for any serious film music lover.

Thanks for the link! Another excellent score from Maestro Williams. Very poignant and restrained. Love those Americana chords on piano.

It was an interview published on "Starfix", a French magazine devoted to SF/Fantasy movies. It appeared in fall 1999 and it was conducted by the infamous Didièr Lepretre (former editor of the James Horner fan magazine "Dreams to Dreams", then transformed into "Cinèfonia"). From what I remember it was a pretty extensive interview about the whole Star Wars experience, in which Williams told some very interesting anectodes which were still unknown (for example that the "March of the Villains" from Superman was originally written as the theme for the Jawas) and let himself express some feelings in a way he usually doesn't do and in fact several people expressed some genuine concerns about the way the interview was edited and translated. I remember King Mark provided us an English translation from French. I think I still have a Word doc of it somewhere. If I found something, I'll let you know!