JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Genius Gone Insane's post got me thinking, and I've always been facinated by the similarites between Jaws Father and Son, and Back with Sara, from Accidental tourist.The similarites are amazing, without it being a repeat. Weird huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I'm sure there's some sort of dark sarcasm here.It's just going over my head, because I haven't actually heard Accidental Tourist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 well thats too bad Marc, because its a beautiful score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 And he calls himself moderator, sheesh. 8OI'm sure you can find many similarities in Williams work that aren't direct copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 well thats too bad Marc, because its a beautiful score.I cant believe you like this score, that can be as beautiful as it can, but its bassically a repetition of two themes (at least the OST), and at the same time trash complete recent Williams works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I think nostalgia plays a part somewhere here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 well thats too bad Marc, because its a beautiful score.I cant believe you like this score, that can be as beautiful as it can, but its bassically a repetition of two themes (at least the OST), and at the same time trash complete recent Williams works.because I love the score Luke, and its a better score than Munich or Geisha. And sorry if you think its just two themes repeated. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 well thats too bad Marc, because its a beautiful score.I cant believe you like this score, that can be as beautiful as it can, but its bassically a repetition of two themes (at least the OST), and at the same time trash complete recent Williams works.because I love the score Luke, and its a better score than Munich or Geisha. And sorry if you think its just two themes repeated. :roll:I agree. It's a beautiful, moody listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 It can be better than Munich, but IMO, not than Geisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrakul 0 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 The Accidental Tourist score is one of my favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Well if both Alex and JoeinAr like it (a stunning idea in itself) then I must seek it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I saw the film on TV yesterday, the score is excellent... but not worth $200 or whatever I'd have to pay for it. It'll probably be reissued at some point, so I'll just wait for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I'm being amazed. This is the first thread (though there may one or two others) i recall from this score, and it seems to be a masterpiece.One wonders how many Williams gems are never spoken about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 This score isn't discussed much because it doesn't have any big heroic fanfares I guess.Or Boom tzzzz...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Or maybe even because the majority of us don't have it. :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Yeah it's horribly expensive now.They should re-release it. (though it would lessen the snob-value of the CD Alex has. :spiny: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I don't know - people still pay high prices for The Witches of Eastwick original CD on eBay, despite the reissue. :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 No wonder there is so much hunger in the world!Were is Bono when you really need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 This score isn't discussed much because it doesn't have any big heroic fanfares I guess.Or Boom tzzzz...... LOLI don't know - people still pay high prices for The Witches of Eastwick original CD on eBay, despite the reissue. :spiny: Cool. I'm happy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 This score isn't discussed much because it doesn't have any big heroic fanfares I guess.Or Boom tzzzz......Sadly there's more truth to that statement than I'd care to admit.The Accidental Tourist is a very lovely score and well worth seeking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Just re-heard the score, and i stand in my opinion.One Main theme, and one secondary theme that includes the main one.Several similar performances and some different and more 'solo' ones.There is even one cue Joe sure skips (Bedroom Conversation) since it sounds likesomething from AI...The main theme is beautiful but the score is not amongst Williams greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 And you based that opinion on how it's used in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 No. Just as listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Luke, why are you commenting on this? I mean, I might be wrong but I don't think this thread is about Star Wars. :?Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Nor is this about Blade Runner either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Nor is this about Blade Runner either.Are you saying that every post I make is about Blade Runner? You see my point? Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 You see my point? AlexYes, that i think you always write about BR and you think i always write about SW, which is wrong for both.Pride and prejudice I supose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 Just re-heard the score, and i stand in my opinion.One Main theme, and one secondary theme that includes the main one.Several similar performances and some different and more 'solo' ones.There is even one cue Joe sure skips (Bedroom Conversation) since it sounds likesomething from AI...The main theme is beautiful but the score is not amongst Williams greatest.see how wrong you are, typically, Bedroom Conversations doesn't sound like A.I., now A.I. might sound like Bedroom conversations but since it was first....see Luke, were both ageist, you support most current JW works, I support most older JW works, the problem is this, youth is your undoing, as John's 70's and 80's works are clearly superior to his 90's and 00's work. I win you lose, time to take the ball home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Wow, it's like Mein Kampf with poor, poor spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 John's 70's and 80's works are clearly superior to his 90's and 00's work. I win you lose, time to take the ball home.I don't agree with that statement at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I happen to find myself in agreement with AdolfinAr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 And I even agree less with that manner of stating opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 The truth needs no sugarcoating.You can't be suggesting that Sleepers, Seven Years In Tibet and The Patriot are better then Star Wars, Superman and Jaws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 Wow, it's like Mein Kampf with poor, poor spelling.ok spelling nazi, what words have incorrect spelling, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Hey, didn't you two become friends after both loving Superman Returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 ok spelling nazi, what words have incorrect spelling, please.The punctuation is a nightmare. And one is left wishing for more apostrophes when needed.Hey, didn't you two become friends after both loving Superman Returns?I'm sorry what alternative board have you been visiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Sorry, must have been stuck in the Phantom Zone or something.Let the hostilities continue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 ok spelling nazi, what words have incorrect spelling, please.The punctuation is a nightmare. And one is left wishing for more apostrophes when needed.Hey, didn't you two become friends after both loving Superman Returns?I'm sorry what alternative board have you been visiting?so in otherwords you were wrong, you probably though you had me with ageist, since it can also be spelled agist, you didn't say anything about punctuation, so next time please be more correct.also since this is the internet, we take liberties with such things, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I'm sorry if I don't endorse taking liberties with spelling and punctuation rules. A language is nothing more than a convention of rules, so if we start skipping those rules we no longer have a language. What is, after all, the difference between "liberty" from a rule and "ignorance" of that same rule? So if this is the Internet, we can forget talking properly? Then why bother talking properly on TV? It's just the idiot box, after all. Or in videogames. Or in summer blockbusters.When you speak in English, Joe, you are not owning the language - you are using the language of Shakespeare, of Milton, of Wilde, and yes, even J.K. Rowling. So I suggest you show some respect to it. If you can't bring yourself to show respect for a language that is centuries old, at least show some respect to all the foreigners visiting this site and reading your posts, who don't speak English as their mother language - not only do they need good example to learn from english-speakers, but they are trying really hard to get it right and you are no better than them to think you are above the rules of the English language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 When you speak in English, Joe, you are not owning the language - you are using the language of Shakespeare, of Milton, of Wilde, and yes, even J.K. Rowling. So I suggest you show some respect to it. If you can't bring yourself to show respect for a language that is centuries old, at least show some respect to all the foreigners visiting this site and reading your posts, who don't speak English as their mother language - not only do they need good example to learn from english-speakers, but they are trying really hard to get it right and you are no better than them to think you are above the rules of the English language.PHUCK YEEAAAHHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 see how wrong you are, typically,Bedroom Conversations doesn't sound like A.I., now A.I. might sound like Bedroom conversations but since it was first....see Luke, were both ageist, you support most current JW works, I support most older JW works, the problem is this, youth is your undoing, as John's 70's and 80's works are clearly superior to his 90's and 00's work. I win you lose, time to take the ball home.SBedroom Conversations, doesn't sound like A.I., now A.I. might sound like Bedroom Conversations, but since it was the first.....S youth is your undoing, as John's 70's and 80's works are clearly superior to his 90's and 00's work. I win you lose, time to take the ball home.There Ross, I have corrected it as you required. I understand that you, as a foreigner, don't think you're a native any longer, and that you are too far removed from colloquial southern American english language and usage.Understand this, our language has progressed far beyond Milton and Shakespear, it barely resembles their language. The english language in this country is more akin to King, and Grisham, Steele, and Roberts. Let the foreigners learn it themselves, they will get a better understanding of how its supposed to be gramatically, but at a site like this, they will get a better understanding of how it actually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 The truth needs no sugarcoating.You can't be suggesting that Sleepers, Seven Years In Tibet and The Patriot are better then Star Wars, Superman and Jaws?Seven Years in Tibet is one of the best things JW has ever written, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 You are in an extreme minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 How very useful this thread has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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