publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 And if we're honest, that's exactly the kind of sleaze we REALLY want to hear. I distinctly remember the uproar when Goldsmith did some harmless snide remarks in Williams direction in this conversation with his daughter and everyone got up in arms, carefully dissecting every word and crying how Goldsmith could possibly besmirch the maestro's name.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 And if we're honest, that's exactly the kind of sleaze we REALLY want to hear. I distinctly remember the uproar when Goldsmith did some harmless snide remarks in Williams direction in this conversation with his daughter and everyone got up in arms, carefully dissecting every word and crying how Goldsmith could possibly besmirch the maestro's name....yes about johnny selling himself to the public.. being part of a ponyshow (boston pops concerts/Rose Parade) and yes thats pretty harmlessBut Horner didn't say anything but his opinion and what the audience and the producers obviously thought. I can only assume that people who say "wow what an arrogant snob!!" don't get what he is saying. Horner is far more experienced than Yared in typical Hollywood scores (you know those who just serve the purpose and as a standalone product aren't very meaningful and have not much heart) while Yared in my eyes/ears is a real Artist/Composer... Yared failed the subject with Troy.. he created music that was much to good.In this interview he also stated that the English patient is practically music by Bach, and people started biching arroung how this Plagerist could even dare to say something about a fellow-composer. But again Horner said the truth, and to make it sound like Bach was a deliberate decision by Minghella/Yared. He didn't mean to downplay hi,m, he just said "Well these artsy scores are his masterclass, while I do commercial films"and i concur with Horner absolutely in that one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 yes about johnny selling himself to the public.. being part of a ponyshow (boston pops concerts/Rose Parade) and yes thats pretty harmlessBut Horner didn't say anything but his opinion and what the audience and the producers obviously thought. I can only assume that people who say "wow what an arrogant snob!!" don't get what he is saying. Horner is far more experienced than Yared in typical Hollywood scores (you know those who just serve the purpose and as a standalone product aren't very meaningful and have not much heart) while Yared in my eyes/ears is a real Artist/Composer... Yared failed the subject with Troy.. he created music that was much to good.Well, if he would have said 'Yared's score was atrocious' one or two times less, perhaps. Horner comes off as a git, plain and simple. Not on the scale of denying the Holocaust or something to that effect but the smugness of 'i had to come to rescue the sinking ship', not even considering that to crawl before test audiences in the american midwest may have not been the only option for the producers, well that's just bad form. Especially when he bemoans the lowbrow state of movies nowadays later in the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 These composers may say the truth, but there ways and ways to say it more politely or not as harsh.Horner BTW has uses many classical pieces in his socres. He should critisize others for that. Goldsmith said that Williams was a popularity bich*!*As a Veterinarian, i must object that the word used for the female dog is filtered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Goldsmith said that Williams was a popularity bich!He said that being master of ceremonies on a street parade wearing a silly hat is a rather offensive engagement and i tend to agree. But you just know that Goldsmith would've loved to indulge in some of the public awareness Williams got over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Goldsmith said that Williams was a popularity bich!He said that being master of ceremonies on a street parade wearing a silly hat is a rather offensive engagement and i tend to agree. But you just know that Goldsmith would've loved to indulge in some of the public awareness Williams got over the years.Yeah i think it was more jealousy than anything.BTW, a grown man over his sixties wearing a ponytail, now that's something 'silly' and offensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Are those comments by Horner real or Hitch made them up?Ironic that some of Horner's score seems to STEAL from Yared.They are real comments.They are from a very long audio interview Daniel Schweiger from Film Music Radio had with Horner quite a while back.And yes, those are direct quotes - my opinion of him plummeted when I first heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Yeah i think it was more jealousy than anything.BTW, a grown man over his sixties wearing a ponytail, now that's something 'silly' and offensive Well both men had/have loving families, so i wouldn't overemphasize these little petty remarks. Goldsmith certainly hasn't lost sleep over this subject.Now, the ponytail may be in bad taste, but it's at least more hip (in a warped sense) than some old millionaire doing the circus bear routine on a parade wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 BTW, a grown man over his sixties wearing a ponytail, now that's something 'silly' and offensiveHave you ever seen Goldsmith conduct vs. Williams conduct, live?The former looked very...how do I put...cool. It's like you're not supposed to look that smooth and cool conducting but he did. The latter looks like he is disinterest half the time and having an orgasm half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Goldsmith said that Williams was a popularity bich!He said that being master of ceremonies on a street parade wearing a silly hat is a rather offensive engagement and i tend to agree. But you just know that Goldsmith would've loved to indulge in some of the public awareness Williams got over the years.Actually Williams wore his Boston Red Sox Baseball cap while he was riding in the Rose Bowl Parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 Silly hat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 That's why i like the correct humility of John Williams I'm sorry what? Humility? John Williams? The man exudes ego in the most powerful sense of the word. He condescends in almost every interview, but because he adds please and thank you, you call it humility?Sarcasm?Not at all. Elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I guess he would have frowned on Williams throwing out the first pitch at a Red Sox game too. What year was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Oh Jerry was just jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Silly hat!Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 To use colloquial language for a second:OWNED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 To use colloquial language for a second:PWNED! way more colloquial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 I have nothing to be ashamed about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I was going to use that as signature. But it does not have anything to do with Drew Struzan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 For he so loved his country, that he dressed up in Orange, Red, White and Blue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Now, the ponytail may be in bad taste, but it's at least more hip (in a warped sense) than some old millionaire doing the circus bear routine on a parade wagon.How was it in bad taste? Goldsmith wore some horrible styles earlier in his career, but during the ponytail era, he was the classiest-looking elderly film composer by far.And he even inspired Connery, don't forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I wish I could grow a ponytail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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