Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Doesn't totally belong in here but it's a cool slightly related rumour. I hope it's true! http://makingstarwars.net/2013/10/rumor-john-williams-writing-star-wars-rebels-theme/ Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Non film score people call them songs. It is quite annoying but I've learned to just block it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 So Evenstar is a song? And Duel Of The Fates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,797 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 interesting....Specially that they said it is not the traditional sw main title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 So Evenstar is a song? And Duel Of The Fates?Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 How about Battle Of The Heroes?No lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 How about Battle Of The Heroes?No lyrics.I believe there is one section where the choir chants Rahtamah although it is near inaudible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,375 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 "Grievous are the deeds of the empire." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 "Grievous are the deeds of the empire."Yes those lyrics are featured either in Grievous Travels to Palpatine or Anakin's Dark Deeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,375 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The interview/doc made it sound like JW was referring to BOTH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,026 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 No, he just said he used Sanskrit again in the score and the pieces Incanus mentioned are the only spots where you hear any sort of chanting.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 But is it a song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Well, I haven't! "Song" means there's someone singing! If no one is singing, it's not a fucking song!Not a fan of Mendelssohn? Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Well, I haven't! "Song" means there's someone singing! If no one is singing, it's not a fucking song!Not a fan of Mendelssohn?Don't tell me that he also used the word song in his works contrary to the way we define it! For shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,375 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 No, he just said he used Sanskrit again in the score and the pieces Incanus mentioned are the only spots where you hear any sort of chanting.KarolHe said:"You are going to hear a new choral piece, which does contain some references to Duel of the Fates, But most of it is entirely new, and its sanskrit, its a very simple line, "Grievous are the crimes of the empire" and thats what they sing, we will not know that, but thats what the message is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 1,120 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 But is it a song?Songs are generally sung by one performer. As soon as you have a choir, you get hymns, chorales, chants, etc.Incidentally, the misuse of "song" probably stems from the fact that the only kind of music most people actively listen to are popular songs of one brand or another. So when they have to describe something that's a self-contained bit of instrumental music, they reach for the most familiar word. "Piece", the most generic term in Western instrumental music, probably just doesn't occur to most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,026 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 But is it a song?Sanskrit pop ballad. With a small female backing chorus gently singing Korah and Rahtahmah (among other si bons si bons in there) while snapping fingers.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 No, he just said he used Sanskrit again in the score and the pieces Incanus mentioned are the only spots where you hear any sort of chanting.KarolHe said:"You are going to hear a new choral piece, which does contain some references to Duel of the Fates, But most of it is entirely new, and its sanskrit, its a very simple line, "Grievous are the crimes of the empire" and thats what they sing, we will not know that, but thats what the message is."The sheet music attests that there is no sanskrit phrase in the piece besides rahtamah Faleel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,026 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Where can you actually hear Rahtahmah in BOTH, Inc?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,215 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Songs are generally sung by one performer. As soon as you have a choir, you get hymns, chorales, chants, etc. Rather, one (or a limited number) of solo voices. A duet is still a song, and background singers also don't change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Where can you actually hear Rahtahmah in BOTH, Inc?KarolIt is rather difficult to hear the phrase but it is about 1:26 into the piece where the choir sings aaaahh but then segues into ra-tah-ma. As I said very difficult to spot because of the way the elements are balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 1,120 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Songs are generally sung by one performer. As soon as you have a choir, you get hymns, chorales, chants, etc.Rather, one (or a limited number) of solo voices. A duet is still a song, and background singers also don't change that. Sure, but I think generally we call songs sung by more than one solo performer by its more technical name, so duet, trio, quartet, etc. The sextet in the opera Lucia di Lammermoor is technically a song, but we all refer to it as the sextet. And with background singers, their name says it all - since they're in the background, our focus is on the (usually) solo singer in the foreground. Of course you're right about these cases, but the solo voice is probably more frequently attached to people's usage of the term "song". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,215 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Sure, but I think generally we call songs sung by more than one solo performer by its more technical name, so duet, trio, quartet, etc. The sextet in the opera Lucia di Lammermoor is technically a song, but we all refer to it as the sextet. And with background singers, their name says it all - since they're in the background, our focus is on the (usually) solo singer in the foreground. Of course you're right about these cases, but the solo voice is probably more frequently attached to people's usage of the term "song". In this case, my comment was more about the modern pop usage of the term. I'd say a duet (for voices) is a special type of song, but I usually wouldn't refer to it as a song. But to complicate the whole matter, there are also things like choral songs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 1,120 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Sure, but I think generally we call songs sung by more than one solo performer by its more technical name, so duet, trio, quartet, etc. The sextet in the opera Lucia di Lammermoor is technically a song, but we all refer to it as the sextet. And with background singers, their name says it all - since they're in the background, our focus is on the (usually) solo singer in the foreground. Of course you're right about these cases, but the solo voice is probably more frequently attached to people's usage of the term "song".In this case, my comment was more about the modern pop usage of the term. I'd say a duet (for voices) is a special type of song, but I usually wouldn't refer to it as a song.But to complicate the whole matter, there are also things like choral songs...Agreed on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,414 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Apparently, Williams is NOT writing this:http://makingstarwars.net/2013/10/john-williams-scoring-star-wars-rebels-music/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Oh well. At least he is scoring the next film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Can we be sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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