Hlao-roo 389 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Has anyone read Richard Gibbs' take on this subject on Quora? Read Quote of Richard Gibbs' answer to Does John Williams "farm out" the orchestration duties for his film scores? on Quora Joni Wiljami and Mari 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I bet Conrad Pope does it all these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 No mention of Angela Morley? Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Why is this thread even here!LeBlanc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 So basically Gibbs said the same thing everybody else did.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Maybe he should join the forum, then. He meets the requirements to be a member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Is that the BSG guy? That score sucked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Shore is doing sketches (mostly complete), but his music is also pre-orchestrated by Tom Sizemore on a computer (mock-ups pretty much). And both these things go to Conrad Pope. Apparently, Shore also plays piano in order to articulate his intentions to Pope.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 All one needs to do is look at John's, or any conposer's, sketches, in order to understand what they present to their orchestrator and thus what the orchestrator(s) contribute. Even this guy's explanation is not really right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Shore uses a 4-line sketch, and it seems to be more about broad-strokes. There's a recent interview with him on ClassicFM where he talks about how he doesn't think of the instruments as he's putting down the notes- meaning that for him his sketch is purely about notes and their relationship to one another. In his own words, he doesn't think 'orchestrally' when he's composing. So even though he's still sketching with pencil and paper, it seems to be quite different from JW's very specific way of sketching and orchestrating. http://www.classicfm.com/composers/shore/news/interview-hobbit-lord-of-the-rings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 He does those 4-line sketches, but Conrad Pope said he also does more complete ones as well.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I would think that now Shore sketches in a more complete way, maybe as his second pass at sketching after the basic musical content, since he's not the one orchestrating anymore. Before, he could elaborate on those basic foundations on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Conrad Pope talks about working with Shore here. The approach is being discussed at about 37-minute mark. And he talks about Williams too, at different points. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,515 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Shore is doing sketches (mostly complete), but his music is also pre-orchestrated by Tom Sizemore on a computer (mock-ups pretty much). And both these things go to Conrad Pope. Apparently, Shore also plays piano in order to articulate his intentions to Pope.KarolTom Sizemore!? Arpy and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Sorry, James Sizemore. Karol Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Here's a nice interview with Sizemore:http://www.scorecastonline.com/2014/01/12/scorecast-41-james-sizemorethe-hobbit/He creates his mockups from Howard's 4-line sketch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Oh thank you. I shall listen to that now.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I must admit I'm sorta fascinated by how Howard describes his initial working process. Just focusing on the relationships of the notes (counterpoint, harmony, melody) and not thinking instrumentally, orchestrally, or anything of the 'sound world'. I might have to try it sometime just to see what it's like. For me the orchestration is always conceived simultaneously with the composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 There are a few successful hummers in the scoring world, known to all inside. Often times said hummers create very interesting scores - the only shame is that the people working under them are not usually credited properly.Okay, I'll bite. Anybody have any idea who the successful "hummers" of today are? Besides John Wiliams obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Interesting how a JW topic is now about Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Do you *really* think Shore's sketching process is more interesting than Williams'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I once heard that all Williams scores were mostly written by the orchestrators and ghost writers.The only two definitely composed by the Maestro are the tone poem "America, the dream goes on..." and awesome Heartbeeps. Live with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 The only two definitely composed by the Maestro are the tone poem "America, the dream goes on..." and awesome Heartbeebs. Live with that!Heartboobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Ursäkta mig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Du redigerade ditt inlägg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Njet!Nada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Sluta göra det här! Människor tvingas att använda en online översättare för att förstå vad vi säger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Sluta göra det här! Människor tvingas att använda en online översättare för att förstå vad vi säger!This is especially funny when read through Google Translate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 You edited your quote, BB!! Blaah!!!!!7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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