publicist 4,643 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 They are a nuisance. Costly and mostly unnecessary. If not for the often stellar remastering, most of them are BS (did anyone need 78 minutes of BOBBY FISCHER? The old album sounds great and is 50'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Meh. I have my collection, you have yours.I own 1,200 CDs. I think I'm doing just fine.That's pretty impressive Jay! I don't even have half of that number.But I do have some essential Horners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Now ask him how many, among these 1,200 CDs, does he listen to regularly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 C&C! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 Now ask him how many, among these 1,200 CDs, does he listen to regularly?The only music I listen to regularly is Coheed and Cambria, Porcupine Tree, and Dream Theater.There are so many film scores in the world, I always like to listen to a mix of new stuff and some old classics. And there are a lot of old classics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 There are only so many hours in the day. I wouldn't want to have 1200 CD's. The only thing I listen to regularly is Coheed and Cambria, Porcupine Tree, and Dream Theater.There are so many film scores in the world, I always like to listen to a mix of new stuff and some old classics. And there are a lot of old classics!Ah, you listen to me? Well man I'm honored. It's more than I deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 Black GoldI much enjoy this dramatic score by Horner. Glad he tackled it after Avatar and Karate Kid. Strong sweeping main theme, ethnic wailing, a single fun cue (The Wonders of Wealth), a single action cue (Battle in the Oil Fields) and a lot of dark, plodding drama. You have to be in the right mood, but if you are, it really hits the spot! Like so many of his scores, it has a really strong finish (A Kingdom of Oil). Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 48 HrsHeh, I had never listened to this before (never seen the movie either). Fun little (29 minutes long!) Horner score with saxophone, steel drums, fun percussion. Little hints of that Aliens military theme (also heard in Wolfen, Uncommon Valor, and ST3) again. The pop songs after the score are all terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 The theme that's in the first half of Futile Escape comes from this one. Dunno if you mean that when you say "military theme"Also Commando is essentially a redo of this score, with some panpipes thrown in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 The military theme from Aliens is the theme used for the military. Heard in Combat Drop, Ripley's Rescue, Futile Escape, and I think one other track. It's basically identical to the main theme from Wolfen, the bad guys theme from Uncommon Valor, and the Klingon theme from ST3.Yea, I might listen to Commando this week. I'd have to take the shrinkwrap off my LLL CD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I actually don't think Aliens has a single original aspect to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Original or not, there's no denying its badass-ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Yea, thats how I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Only because you heard Aliens before any of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Yes, of course!I can see how it can be disappointing to those who already intimately knew all his early 80s scores.Even still, the application of those existing themes, amped up and played to perfection by the LSO is still something to be admired, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Of course, there's more to Aliens than just having recycled ideas, motifs and such. Bishop's Countdown is a pretty unique track, I'd like to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Commando Subtle as a brick, loud bordering on obnoxious at times and consisting of just a few thematic ideas repeated over and over again with not much variation.Yet incredibly infectious and fun.Essentially 48 Hours on acid, but a good 50 minute listen. Totally macho, except for a short "family theme" that seems to come from another movie.AliensLittle more then a selection of themes and styles from his previous scores sewn together in a sledgehammer fasion + some shameless rip-off of the Gayenne Ballet Suite and Jerry Goldsmith.Yet its effectiveness cannot be denied. From the atmospheric first half (in which Combat Drop really stick out like a sore thumb, i can see why Cameron dropped it) to the second half which is action galore!I can't honestly say its up there with Horners best of the 80's, but as 2 week rush jobs go this is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 "in which Combat Drop really stick out like a sore thumb" When I have a sore thumb, I wish it would feel just as satisfyingly great as Combat Drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 The library cue they used it far more effective at that point in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I completely agree but the only way I would get a sore thumb is by listening to Combat Drop and tapping my thumb hard onto the desk out of sheer excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Sometimes when under the intense pressure of deadlines, directors make poor decisions. The axing of Combat Drop was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 WolfenThis is essentially the genesis of Aliens. Not just the so called military theme (or Klingon theme as I prefer to call it), but also the echoplexed trumpet theme, several of the action rhythms and textural orchestral effects. Several parts of Wolfen were lifted, dusted off and beefed up a bit for the 1986 Cameron film. One recurring string motif would resurface in Khan's Pets in TWOK.This makes it hard to appreciate the score on its own merits, especially since I never saw the film. It's competently written of course, and the performance by the small orchestra is decent. But most of this score would be done again in bigger and better fashion in later years. So no real need to return to this one.Deadly BlessingOr James Horner rips off Jerry Goldsmith.This is largely a thinly disguised clone of The Omen. Again, well written for what it is, but not enough character of it's own to really consider it. And unlike Battle Beyond The Stars, another James does Jerry score it isnt outrageous and fun enough to be enjoyable as a guilty pleasure.The score does have a track called Final Confrontation years before any Elfman score.....Two scores from the era when Horner was cutting his teeth and earning his dues. They are interesting in an archival manner, and already show that even as a hack he had considerable talent. But other then that they have no real replay value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHk4wmTSeN8Still my favourite performance of a Titanic suite. Makes me shiver.Hollywood In Vienna tribute:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D22nRhXbX4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Has Horner composed anything more beautiful than "A Fighting Chance to Live"? If he has, I haven't heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Has Horner composed anything more beautiful than "A Fighting Chance to Live"? If he has, I haven't heard it.Well, how about these two pieces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 WolfenCraig Safan's rejected score is better.Has Horner composed anything more beautiful than "A Fighting Chance to Live"? If he has, I haven't heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Another very beautiful one. Parallels with Leia's Theme and Yoda's Theme, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Another very beautiful one. Parallels with Leia's Theme and Yoda's Theme, no?Now that you mention it, hell yes ! Best music ever written in appreciation of Mrs. Connelly. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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