Sandor 797 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Track 3 on the Munich soundtrack is called Hatikvah (The Hope)Someone mentioned that that piece is not composed by Williams. Here is more information:Hatikvah (Hope) - Samuel Cohen (1882)This is the tune of the Israeli National Anthem. It's origin is not certain,but the words (written by Naphtali Herz Imber) are thought to have been putto music by Samuel Cohen in 1882. Cohen, an immigrant from Moldavia, is saidto have based the melody on a Moldavian-Rumanian folk song "Carul cu Boi"("Cart and Oxen"). It seems unlikely that the tune was based on the melody ofa musical theme found in Bedrich Smetana's "Moldau", or that Imber borrowedthe tune from a composition by Cantor Nissan Belzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 That makes perfect sense, given the Olympic setting. I don't know why, I thought it was obvious when the track titles were revealed that that was the Israeli anthem. I am curious as to whether it is going to be a la Jerusalem of Gold from Schindler's List i.e. a solemn vocal version, a JW orchestral version, or maybe a combination of both. Incidentaly, I think the tune is a fine tune to say the very least, but I am slightely biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'm sure Williams arrangement of it will sound better than the original.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I would like to hear a version of the Spanish hymn by john williams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAsterisk 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'm sure Williams arrangement of it will sound better than the original.Speaking of which, does anyone know where I can find a recording of his "Star-Spangled Banner" arrangement for the 2004(?) Rose Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'm sure Williams arrangement of it will sound better than the original. You don't even know what the original sounds like! ......but that doesn't prevent you from probably being right. The usual arrangment of it is too loud and regal for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'm sure Williams arrangement of it will sound better than the original.Speaking of which, does anyone know where I can find a recording of his "Star-Spangled Banner" arrangement for the 2004(?) Rose Bowl?Surely his rendition can't be as good as the excellent Goldsmith version heard at the beginning of Poltergeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 And the point of this thread is?There have been many Williams cds that feature music not written by him that he's adpated and arranged for the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 And the point of this thread is?Thanks Mark. Now, after Vossk's classic line: "What happened? Who cares!" I have found a companion line to that one. "And the point of this thread is?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 And the point of this thread is?Thanks Mark. Now, after Vossk's classic line: "What happened? Who cares!" I have found a companion line to that one. "And the point of this thread is?" LOL Finally someone new to pick on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 Yeah, great new avatar by the way! And sig image!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Actually I wasn't picking on you Roald. I just wondered what you meant because you aked a question in the title and then you answered it in your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 Oh ok! Sorry then. But I wasn't sure and still am not sure whether Williams chose the existing music or chose to compose a new piece with a similar title. But I guess the odds of that second thought are about as big as, uh, me becoming a Darth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thanks Mark. Now, after Vossk's classic line: "What happened? Who cares!" I have found a companion line to that one. "And the point of this thread is?"Marc should adopt it, for whenever he closes a thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Not only has Williams included tracks of music that were not composed by him (like on Empire of the Sun), but he's been known to incorporate other works into his own music, like Dvorak's cello concerto on The Witches of Eastwick, or a Chopin mazurka on EotS, amongst others.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 And Die rozen Something in A.I.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 And Die rozen Something in A.I.K.M.Der Rosenkavalier, which is a Strauss waltz.Show some respect Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 The knight of the Rose. SOunds something from Dragnlance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Der Rosenkavalier, which is a Strauss waltz.Show some respect TimWasn't he a big anti-semite?Respect my ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I thought you had a cat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I do..Your point being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 D'OH Im always completely misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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