BREAKING BAD

[Quintus 5,399]

This time he merely had his weed taken - and as far as he knew nobody was critical ill in hospital as a result of that. Walter wouldn't order Saul to confiscate his silly bag of dope. In fact Jess had already been given a very good reason why it should be left behind. There was no conspiracy to unravel.

Huge, huge leaps of logic. All reliant on the fact that we are privy to what Jessie is not. Sorry, but I just think it's sloppy.

[Jay 37,368]

Love this meme. It's the new Hitler reacts!

http://www.eonline.com/shows/the_soup/news/453001/breaking-meme

[Richard Penna 3,694]

This time he merely had his weed taken - and as far as he knew nobody was critical ill in hospital as a result of that. Walter wouldn't order Saul to confiscate his silly bag of dope. In fact Jess had already been given a very good reason why it should be left behind. There was no conspiracy to unravel.

Huge, huge leaps of logic. All reliant on the fact that we are privy to what Jessie is not. Sorry, but I just think it's sloppy.

My problem is that it ruins the drama of the ending. When the camera started circling round him and he storms off and into Saul's office, I'm like, what's he so angry about? That Saul took his drugs? Then when Saul confesses, you're trying to make the seam leap of logic that Jesse just did, while at the same time he's dousing Walt's house with gas. Just too much to figure out in those final scenes.

it's such a shame because everything that came before it was brilliantly written IMO.

[Quintus 5,399]

Because I'd watched the entire series in the space of a few months it was all still very fresh to me and AS SOON AS Huell brushed past Jesse in the doorway my mind raced foward and predicted the outcome of the episode there and then. I remember thinking, oh no, don't let it be this bullshit, I hope Huell didn't just do what I think he did. But he did.

When Saul blurted out the truth about Walter I was really quite pissed off. I know he had Jesse pointing a gun at him, but still. It all felt too contrived.

[Wycket 36]

Why? Saul is all about protecting himself. He has no loyalty to Walt or Jesse, and at this point Saul is just trying to survive and has no reason to keep secrets from either of them. If anything, turning Jesse on Walt is a great strategy on his part as it gets the two of them going against each other and away from him.

[Quintus 5,399]

[Wojo 2,453]

I remember that Malcolm.

[chuck 154]

[nightscape94 965]

I've been with the show at every turn. I've had no real problems with the choices the writers have taken, up until last night. The one thing I didn't like was the terrible red herring when Jesse went to meet Walt, and there was a guy just standing there, motionless, expressionless, leading Jesse to believe it was one of Walt's goons or something. Then it turns out to be some dude waiting for his daughter. If it was done more convincingly then I perhaps would have bought it, but it didn't quite feel right.

[Wojo 2,453]

At first I thought it was going to turn out to be a vision of Mike or something.

[crocodile 8,017]

So there you have it! Breaking Bad is turning shit at the very last moment. About time!

Karol

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

Yeah that guy just standing there was a little weird. I got it as just a joke, and an excuse to get the story going. These middle episodes are always the thoughest to tackle, so let's see how it all unfolds.

One of the weaker episodes, but had some highlights. I liked that it was Hank who stopped Jesse from burning Walt's house, for some reason it felt like Hank was still a tiny bit on Walt's side. I know it's complete bullshit, but a brief moment that's what I felt.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I didn't think he was ever on Walt's side at all there - he just knew that burning their house down was the wrong way to do things, and also that it would hurt Skyler and Walt Jr (who particularly, is 100% innocent, and doesn't deserve to lose his home)

[Quintus 5,399]

Just watched it. Another outstanding episode. Bar that unfortunate bollocks at the end of the last epi, I'm beginning to think this final season might turn out to be the best of the lot. After tonight's further grinding of the screw Jesse's previously ginormous leaps of logic have seen themselves swiftly and conveniently brushed under my carpet of vital satisfaction and right now I'm having trouble remembering a time when TV had me more gripped.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I'm now very curious as to what Jesse's 'better way' of getting Walt is, and why Walt is calling on that guy's uncle's services (isn't he the guy who arranged the prison hits?).

From a character POV, it's now getting concerning who might not make it to the end of the season now, given that Walt's family appears to be his most important thing,

[KK 3,307]

Walt called the prison guy to eliminate Jesse. Jesse meanwhile on the other hand has some cool plan which will destroy Walt. I think it was another great, smartly handled episode. Only 4 more left....I don't think I can wait that long

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Yeah I'd guessed it was to eliminate Jesse - just seemed odd to use a guy who specialised in prison-based hits (but I was less than convinced about that whole episode, so I guess the guy arranges hits in general).

[KK 3,307]

Well he worked prison-based hits at the time because he was in prison then. Now he's out. Or that's how I believe it worked. All in all, he just arranges hits in general, it's why he went to prison.

[crocodile 8,017]

All the main story machinations aside, am I the only person who is kind of shocked by Skyler's behaviour? Her giving the solution to Walt was actually quite chilling and unexpected.

Karol

[Quintus 5,399]

She's always been a powerful presence in the family, I'm not surprised she's taking the survival of it very seriously. Chilling indeed.

[Wojo 2,453]

Chilling but not unexpected. She never warmed to Jesse even after she became used to the idea of her husband's activity and the money it provided. She knows her husband has killed before, so what's one more death? She is a mother and Jesse is a very big threat to her children's safety. He earned that with the gasoline. Sure, she wants Walt out of the business, but she needs him to clean up his loose ends. Jesse is a loose end.

Watch the call to Todd to NOT be to kill Jesse.

[Wycket 36]

I think Jesse's plan is to go after Walt's money. That's what this has all been about, and if he takes that away from him Walt will have accomplished nothing from all of this. Seems fitting.

[Wojo 2,453]

That makes some sense. Except Jesse cannot know where the money is stored, or even where Walt kept it before he moved it. The lottery ticket, which he may have seen in the kitchen, means nothing. Unless Saul had a tracker on the van, neither he nor his goons know where Walt took it. I assume the buried money will reappear, but Walt will have to mess up.

It's possible that Jesse aims to target Jr at school, trading one child's life for another since Walt felt free to forfeit Brock, and since Walt spent so much time at school. However, we hope that Jesse's the better man and won't involve more collateral damage, and Hank won't subscribe to that anyways.

I read a theory that Walt will use Todd's uncle to ransack his house to fake his own death, seemingly at Jesse's hand, giving him time to plan, since we see him free on his 52nd birthday. His family is already out of the house. He likely wouldn't tell Todd's uncle about the Ricin because that's his last secret weapon, and there is little to tell which flash forward comes first, Denny's or the Ricin retrieval. The problem with this theory is that he doesn't know Hank has Jesse and would know whether Jesse had time to kill Walt and then believe it.

[Jay 37,368]

Denny's comes first, because in the Ricin retrieval he has the gun in his trunk that he bought in the first flashforward

[Wojo 2,453]

Ok.

[Jay 37,368]

'Breaking Bad' Actor Bryan Cranston Walked Around Comic-Con Wearing A Heisenberg Mask And No One Knew

[Wycket 36]

Yeah, saw that last month. Pretty cool that he got to walk around essentially as himself and no one knew. Matt Smith walked around in a mask as well, though I can't remember who it was as.

[chuck 154]

Cranston talked about it with Letterman weeks ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2clPCQ2cY

[Quintus 5,399]

Aye, this is weeks old news for PROPER BB fans!

[nightscape94 965]

Helluva way to end an episode.

[Wojo 2,453]

Oh yeah.

[crocodile 8,017]

Indeed.

Karol

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

Awesome episode, my favorite of the season so far.

[Quintus 5,399]

That episode was fucking excruciating.

I can't handle this shit.

[SF1_freeze 131]

The last 20 minutes were cruel... Hank is my favorite character, they better not kill him next week or it may seriously affect my enjoyment of the show!!!

Still, in my opinion the first two episodes of the season were better than this one.

[Quintus 5,399]

Hank is a dead man. He told Marie he loved her and said he may be gone a while.

Fantastic character played to perfection by Dean Norris. He should be proud of his contribution.

[crocodile 8,017]

Unless they're only playing around with those tropes.

If there is still time for plays like that...

Karol

[Quintus 5,399]

You make a good point actually and me and my brother agree with you. We've just been WhatsApping the key moments and afterwards a broader picture was painted.

"Jesse was right tho - what you think is gonna happen is exactly the opposite of what will happen"

"Which might be one last joke the writers will have on us, the audience."

[crocodile 8,017]

On the other hand, three episodes left... all bets are off.

Karol

[Quintus 5,399]

Such is the brilliance on display in these final few episodes.

Star aligned and all that, could it be?

[crocodile 8,017]

I have to admit I'm watching very cautiously.

"This week it's going to turn shite" is my weekly mantra.

Karol

[SF1_freeze 131]

If Hank dies that will ruin the whole finale for me, he is the only one who HAS to survive. Enough depressing shit goes down that it would ruin the show if the one truly good character (apart from the kids) bites the dust. I really hope they don't ruin it!!!

If they wanted to kill him they would have done so at the end of the episode... Gomez will probably bite the dust next week

Hank is a dead man. He told Marie he loved her and said he may be gone a while.

Fantastic character played to perfection by Dean Norris. He should be proud of his contribution.

What you describe is a Hollywood cliche, Breaking Bad always turns the Hollywood cliches around and suprises the viewers. That's why Hank has to live or the show jumps the shark!

[Quintus 5,399]

See, I think of Hank's possible survival (and presumed justice) as cliché.

Breaking Bad is Walter White's story. Good guy becomes ... grey guy. At the end of the day Hank - for all his brilliance and addictiveness - is but a complex but ultimately dispensable (read: dispatchable) foil.

But I could be wrong. Both outcomes could be satisfying.

[crocodile 8,017]

But if he lives... isn't that cliche as well?

Karol

[Quintus 5,399]

Exactly.

[SF1_freeze 131]

I just want an happy end (not for Walter)... and Breaking Bad is so much more than just Walter White's story. Jesse, Hank, Skyler, Saul, Gus were all developed so well. I mean they even want to create a spinoff for the rather minor Saul Goodman character.

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

If you're expecting a happy end on freakin' Breaking Bad, prepare yourself to be dissapointed

[Wojo 2,453]

At this point, what would a happy ending be? Everyone has done something evil or bad or just plain rotten except Walter's kids. Hank's story could end and it would feel fine. Watch Jesse get locked up and Walt's flash forward is to bust him out of jail, as one last act of compassion to his own deliverer.

[Quintus 5,399]

Every time I hear demands for a happy ending in anything like this (including movies) I think damn you Hollywood!

[Wojo 2,453]