Thor 7,504 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Intriguing concept. Again, I have no clue about equipment and stuff, but I love that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedfud 38 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Our last gig; New record t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 3:10 to the end. Any insights on what synths these might be, or what Newman uses in general? Sounds a bit like what Oldfield used on The Songs Of Distant Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Sounds FMish.I can get similar sounds on my DX7 with enough time, patience and coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I'll have a go at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 tedfud's an ace at this. From him I learnt that the MoS World Engine effect was created by a kind of distortion through waveshaping controlled by a fast LFO (similar to the famous Reece Bass and certain Dubstep sounds), plus plenty of DDL and autopan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I'm pretty adept at hardware synths but I'm still in the midst of the software synth learning curve. More or less have the hang of all the built-in Logic synths. Now trying to master Zebra2. Maybe I'll go over to VI-Control and see if Hans will give me a tutorial.I've been listening to this a lot lately. Great Eno type stuff. I've just asked the (infamous?) composer what gear he used for this. I reckon it's all probably custom made, like his sample libraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Anyone know any electronic artists/albums with a similar sound to this? Alex, Thor, tedfud? Fairlight Series III with Page R sequencer. Don't say Brad Fiedel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Falling in love with FM all over again, and modeling. Haven't emerged from my sonic temple in nearly 18 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 FM? What's that? Frequency Modulation? The song by Steely Dan? What? Also, what do you model? Pictures, please. Don't be shy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I have pics of me in ladies clothes, but those are private.Fans of electronic music, this is the thread you have been waiting for! We can discuss the music, composers, musicians, equipment, synthesizers, samples (orchestral and electronic), ... you name it! Who and what are your favorites? Why do you like it? Why don't you like it? A certain sound in a pop song? This is the place to ask or to share.Even if there was a precursor to this thread, this new one overwrites the old one. Okay, I'll start the thread with a very strange and beautiful album: Sonanza (1975) by Roberto Cacciapaglia. It's strange because it's a hybrid of orchestral and electronic. The combination of the dark and the romantic has affected me deeply when I was a youngster. Looking forward to your contributions!AlexAlex I'm just listening to this now. It's really wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Alex I'm just listening to this now. It's really wonderful. I'm glad you like it, Who?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 FM? What's that? Frequency Modulation?Yes, Frequency Modulation. Great for anything from bell or gong-like like tones, organ-y tones, strange bird calls, glass harmonica-y pads, metallic basses, and those synths farts in Jerry's RAMBO scores. That's FM synthesis (with plenty of filtered white noise) right at the beginning, with the exception of the kick (the low 'thud), which is probably just a low sine wave with a fast envelope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Also funky basses, like in What Have You Done For Me Lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Any suggestions for this, Al?Anyone know any electronic artists/albums with a similar sound to this? Alex, Thor, tedfud?Fairlight Series III with Page R sequencer.Don't say Brad Fiedel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 No idea ... The synths are good but the music itself seems to be pretty generic. You said "don't say Brad Fiedel" but it was the first name that popped into my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Have you ever played a Fairlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Let's not forget FM also stands for Guest2's most hated sound: Have you ever played a Fairlight?Yes, a friend of mine had it when it was hip and extremely expensive. I never forget the 8 inch floppy disks and some of the sounds on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I've never understood how you create sounds on it - it's additive right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 It was mainly used as a sampler: This track is almost entirely Fairlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 One of the greatest electronic records of all time. AoN were shite without Anne Dudley - she was the only musician in the group. It's like when Alan Wilder left Depeche Mode.Another favourite Fairlight album is Peter Gabriel's Security. Never got into Genesis or Phil Collins, but I like some of Gabriel's solo stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 The brass is Fairlight, I think, and I recognize Tony Levin's stick bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Regarding the SPEED clip, there's a fair bit of 90's Zimmer in that. The glockenspiel-type sound, for example, and the seething strings, sound like they could have come right out of BEYOND RANGOON (one of my fav scores of all time).But in terms of non-film music, I'm not too sure. I'll have to think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I know some of the percussion was sampled (from smashing shit up at a construction site IIRC), but was the brass?Regarding the SPEED clip, there's a fair bit of 90's Zimmer in that. The glockenspiel-type sound, for example, and the seething strings, sound like they could have come right out of BEYOND RANGOON (one of my fav scores of all time).But in terms of non-film music, I'm not too sure. I'll have to think about that.Thanks, that's the kind of response I was after. Maybe this is a uniquely late 80s/early 90s film music thing, with no parallel in pop? Would be interesting if it was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 One of the greatest electronic records of all time. AoN were shite without Anne Dudley - she was the only musician in the group. It's like when Alan Wilder left Depeche Mode.Another favourite Fairlight album is Peter Gabriel's Security. Never got into Genesis or Phil Collins, but I like some of Gabriel's solo stuff."peter gabriel" was the first album to use the Fairlight extensively. If you can, watch the "Southbank Show" documentary about the making of the record, which was aired in 1982.What is the clip that you posted (sorry, but I cannot access it)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 One of the greatest electronic records of all time. AoN were shite without Anne Dudley - she was the only musician in the group. It's like when Alan Wilder left Depeche Mode.Another favourite Fairlight album is Peter Gabriel's Security. Never got into Genesis or Phil Collins, but I like some of Gabriel's solo stuff."peter gabriel" was the first album to use the Fairlight extensively. If you can, watch the "Southbank Show" documentary about the making of the record, which was aired in 1982.What is the clip that you posted (sorry, but I cannot access it)?'Shock the Monkey', which helped popularise the Fairlight's distinctive sound to a wider audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Peter Vogel and Thomas Dolby on the impact of the Fairlight CMI:I didn't realize Vogel made a new anniversary version of the Fairlight ($20.000). It's the one used at the end of the interview! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rtC4qubC8kThis is one of the most interesting albums I've heard in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I can't access this link. What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Jarre's Sessions 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Oh right. I'll check that out. "The Geometry of Love" is meant to be good. It has an interesting cover..."Metamorpheses" is excellent. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Indeed it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I love SESSIONS 2000 (a very "autumny" album) and GEOMETRY OF LOVE (a more "summery" album) -- two rather experimental albums from Jarre, and a far cry from TEO & TEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I've been exploring his discography lately and surprisingly (or maybe not?) I prefer his more recent ones to his earlier stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 A great album ... to fall asleep to! No really, it's not bad ... IF YOU WANNA FALL ASLEEP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwNVJuGxZGY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Someone posted this bloody brilliant Moroder track at FSM. MIDNIGHT EXPRESS vibe all over it; in an updated fashion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynu17S9XmVU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 This has been in my head all day. Seldom been topped for pure beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I love SESSIONS 2000 (a very "autumny" album) and GEOMETRY OF LOVE (a more "summery" album) -- two rather experimental albums from Jarre, and a far cry from TEO & TEA.Ugh! Don't, I said don't, get me started on "Teo And Tea". Plastic, souless music for a plastic, souless generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I love SESSIONS 2000 (a very "autumny" album) and GEOMETRY OF LOVE (a more "summery" album) -- two rather experimental albums from Jarre, and a far cry from TEO & TEA.Ugh! Don't, I said don't, get me started on "Teo And Tea". Plastic, souless music for a plastic, souless generation.Even Jarre himself is displeased with that album. There are some good tracks on it, IMO, but overall it's a bit too 'chart friendly' and a bit of a departure from the more experimental style in those other albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 How did this end up here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Grazie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I know the whistle sound was as combination of an Emu Proteus preset and Snow's wife whistling, but what about 3 of the other elements:- The delayed triplet drum hits- The bass- The delayed triplet keyboard lineThe Synclavier system may be at the heart of the studio, patched through a Soundcraft Sapphyre LC mixer, but that's not it for "MIDI boxes", as Mark refers to them: the studio also accommodates a Roland S760 sampler, Kurzweil MicroPiano module, an Emu Proteus 1, 2 (source of the famous X-Files whistle, in combination, apparently, with a sample of Snow's wife whistling!) and 3, Emu Morpheus, Korg M1R and Wavestation SR. But these are adjuncts to the core sound produced by the Synclavier and its large library: "I have all these great samples on the Synclavier's magneto drives." Mark doesn't do much sampling of his own: "There are so many sample disks available that I have people transfer them onto Synclavier format." And is there anything else he'd like to add to the studio? "Well, the only thing that means anything to me is new sounds or new combinations of sounds. All I care about is if somebody has a great new sound library. That's what I'm looking for. Since my background is music, rather than electronics and technology, I just know as much as I have to. There are so many other composers who know about sampling rates and all that technical stuff, but none of that really interests me. So apart from new sounds, I could maybe upgrade the RAM and the number of voices on the Synclavier..."http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/feb97/xfiles.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Anyone want to venture an analysis of the gorgeous synth that opens this piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 an Emu Proteus 1, 2 (source of the famous X-Files whistle, in combination, apparently, with a sample of Snow's wife whistling!) For all those who tried, that must have been a tough sound to replicateAnyone want to venture an analysis of the gorgeous synth that opens this piece?My guess it's either Omnisphere, Atmosphere or a preset (of the glass pad type) of one of the countless pad collections for Kontakt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You're probably right Alex. I've already closely replicated it with the wonderful Zebra2 but wondered what all of your ears would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Tom Newman is a big fan of Omnisphere. SKYFALL is filled with it.Danny Elfman likes Absynth - one of the main synths in DARK SHADOWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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