#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 The problem with a real piano is that it requires talent. There's no possibility of imputting the play notes into the MIDI sequencer and rearranging them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 How's the family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Why would i give a fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Did someone say MIDI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 The above video explained: You don't need to have the talent and skill to play a real piano either. They are MIDI-fied these days. Cheers! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Can you control it from your smartphone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Via Bluetooth, probably. Wouldn't you want one in your living room? The MIDI-fied Yamaha concert piano only costs $260.000! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Yamaha?! Nothing but a Steinway, for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 I'm a Steinway D4 man myself, but I wouldn't complain if the gave me a Yamaha C7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Oh, fuck, I bloody well would!!! Steinway>Bechstein>my nan's old Joanna!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 Beautiful, but he's got so much, it's sickening. Really, I stopped watching because I couldn't take it anymore. Who is Andy Gray?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 It would appear that this Andy Gray fellow is a composer/arranger/producer/remixer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 What has he done that puts him in that position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Being in the right place at the right time? Accidentally knowing one or two of the right people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Some interesting thoughts about playing with electronic colours in the traditional orchestral palette from Max Richter: Something you might appreciate? @TheGreyPilgrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Ah so you got the email from NI too, eh? Yeah, I enjoy a lot of Richter's and think he's done much to demonstrate how to integrate these two worlds, but I'd love to hear him stretch his legs a bit more. I admit that I was completely taken in by his endorsement of the Kontakt controller keyboards and may have already ordered one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Agreed. He's been in a bit of a rut lately. I think needs someone or something to really push him out of his comfort zone. Did you get to check out his latest album (Woolf Works)? Familiar territory, but enjoyable nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Unreleased track ... Who knew Vangelis had humor?! I guess at one time he had some problems with the neighbours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 On 2/17/2017 at 10:52 PM, KK said: Agreed. He's been in a bit of a rut lately. I think needs someone or something to really push him out of his comfort zone. Did you get to check out his latest album (Woolf Works)? Familiar territory, but enjoyable nonetheless. I've just listened to this today, actually. It is indeed very Richter, but is a particularly eloquent take on his usual stylings. I am a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 OK, I've been raving about this for WEEKS now. A few weeks ago, or maybe months, my colleague Alan recommended this videogame score to me: PINOUT (Douglas Holmquist) from 2016. It's apparently some pinball app, I don't know. I've been playing it almost non-stop since (at least 20-30 times). So I wanted to share it with you guys. Knowing this place, I expect a lot of disparaging remarks, but if you're a sucker for retro synthpop elements with some contemporary elements, PLEASE check it out: https://play.spotify.com/album/38isr7eM1n8gUgU8VNmwL6?play=true&utm_source=open.spotify.com&utm_medium=open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Ikutaro Kakehashi: Japanese music legend, 808 creator dies http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2017/04/ikutaro-kakehashi-japanese-music-legend-808-creator-dies.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Wow! The founder of Roland Corp! They did much more than creating the TR-808! RIP! Roland CR-78 Damn, my kind of '80s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Some Roland synths that I owned and sold over the years ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Jarre to hold concert at Masada (Israel) (Guardian deems it an 'Anti Trump' concert) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/03/jean-michel-jarre-anti-donald-trump-dead-sea-concert Even back in my 'very' Jarre Fan days, when I was far more left, to be honest I always found the various virtue signalling causes this guy latches onto, somewhat pretentious and skin deep. Back in the day I remember the controversy around the Sun City concert, essentially a closed event for the country's wealthy elite and a lot of the imagery at concerts in the vague - " Save the World / End Oppression / Environmentalist" themes came across as finger pointy from a man burning up vast carbon resources shipping himself and untold amounts of gear all over the world for the energy guzzling concerts. He hobnobs with elites and corporations to get sponsorship, while unable to let go of the 'Communist Rebel' thing it seems was his youth. "Save the world, don't waste energy but those monster carbon guzzling space missions are great, and so is the Pope who is literally the epitome of hot air". Yes, I had to comment because the Guardian started it first. I gave up any pretentions of being an environmentalist in my early 20s, because so often the most vocal are the ones doing little (if anything) different in our lives than anyone else. It is easy to be the finger pointer while enjoying all the fruits of that energy guzzling world, and Jarre seems little different. Anyway, yes he'll have an event at Masada. It won't be the first time though as Son et Lumiete are common there. I was camping in the desert below Masada a few years ago when the practice for a Son et Lumiere opera (forgot which one) was going on there, with the cliffs lit in various colours. So, he's 'raising awareness ' about the Dead Sea level. Got any actual 'solutions' to that or the energy demand, Jean Michel? Being the - "We gotta do better" or - "We gotta stop doing this" is simply what the Pope does without offering practical fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 No offense, but I find those criticims rather farfetched, Melange! Jarre is not a politician. He's raising awareness the way he can -- i.e. to put up a show that integrates naturally with the environment. He's one of the most unique audiovisual artists in the world that way; i.e. using the surroundings to create an organic space that is able to 'conceptualize' the whole experience. Whether it is the worker's movement in Poland or cultural exchange in China in the early 80s. Sure, inbetween these, there might be a "less aware" gig, and thank God for that! Otherwise, he'd end up all Bono in the end. Wish I could attend those Dead Sea concerts (I've seen some of photos Jarre has put up on Facebook in preparation of this), or in fact any of his big outdoors concerts. I've only seen him in indoors stadium concerts (4 times) and one outdoor that was a smaller fortress here in Oslo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 The problem with Melange is that everything is placed into a political context by him. People who do that usually have limitations when it comes to their perceptions of art, and the concepts behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I agree with Melange here, though. Jarre is a bit insufferable at times - one doesn't need to place it into a political context, he does it himself. It was only this morning that he made a Facebook post bizarre enough to cause my wife to "unfollow" his page, though to be fair I've loaded up her page with too many of my own interests anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 And what would that post be? The "vagina" one? I think that was created by whoever runs the JMJ facebook page, not the man himself. And even if it was, I found it a 'cute' analogy. Very "French". Sure, Jarre is a 'megalomaniac' at times, but a lot of great artists are. In fact, they wouldn't be great without it. Roger Waters is too, and he's about a thousand times more 'political' than Jarre ever was. Still love his music (and shows) to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 That's the one. Regardless of who wrote it, and whether or not it was "cute," it seemed like the kind of dishwatery tripe that one doesn't really need to see. Few musicians seem to use their social media presence to really post anything substantial. Waters is obviously a gargantuan prick, but I've been able to stomach it more out of my supreme love for Pink Floyd. Jarre's music is appealing to me, but not nearly as much. I prefer Schulze or TD for the sort of ground that he was, frankly, retreading a few years later. He has his moments, I'll say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Well, we're miles apart when it comes to Jarre, as I think he's the greatest thing that ever happened to electronic music. Also, I really don't have an issue with musicians having political views, or expressing them. Not even Bono, who everybody likes to hate for those reasons. What matters to me is their music. I am also particularly fond of musicians who are able to vary between concepts for art's sake and concepts that are organically ingrained with something meaningful. Jarre, to me, epitomizes all of that. I don't really see any 'pretension' in it, only 'ambitions' and visionary qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 We are surely more than miles apart if you feel that contemporary fast food activism fused with music is anything approaching ambitious or visionary, or indeed anything but utterly banal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 So you don't think famous artists should use their celebrity to do good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Thor said: Well, we're miles apart when it comes to Jarre, as I think he's the greatest thing that ever happened to electronic music. Is there a singular track of Jarre that embodies this feeling of yours? A track that makes you say Jarre is the best thing that ever happened to Electronic Music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It's more his scope. He can do the weirdest, atonal or ambient art projects one moment (no doubt influenced by his mentor Pierre Schaeffer), and then 'easy-listening' synthpop the next. Always with his unique trademarks and instrumentation. So no single track, really. For me, none of the other electronics pioneers of the 60s and 70s come close, even though I like them a lot too (Vangelis, Kraftwerk, TD, Stockhausen, Moroder, Eno etc.). And then there's the 'gesamtkunstwerk' ideas of his shows, which is also unprecedented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 But surely there must be a favorite track which you find better than anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 There is: ETHNICOLOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Alexcremers said: But surely there must be a favorite track which you find better than anything else? Nope. I've never really been a 'track' person. I'm more about the whole albums. But sure, I could probably dish out a few great tracks over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Albums? You want whole albums, Thor? ZOOLOOK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Richard said: Albums? You want whole albums, Thor? ZOOLOOK. Yeah, great album. And curiously the one appreciated by the most non-Jarre fans (after OXYGENE and EQUINOXE). Not my personal fav, though. In fact, the much-criticized CHRONOLOGIE might be my favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Not by me, Thor! I like CHRONOLOGIE very much. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 12 hours ago, Richard said: Not by me, Thor! I like CHRONOLOGIE very much. Great! "There is another". I know that Jarre is very fond of it too, and has often expressed a desire to remaster it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Er...it was remastered, in 2014, I think. Now, if he wants to remix it to 5.1... Out of interest, Thor...your top 5 JMJ? Mine are ZOOLOOK, MAGNETIC FIELDS, CHRONOLOGIE, METAMORPHOSES, and the "new" material from THE CONCERTS IN CHINA. Ps, mention TÉO AND TÉA, and you're dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 You're right, but there was a recent interview, I think in connection with the ELECTRONICA albums, where he talked about revisiting that particular album; I think for a remastering (perhaps it was 5.1, as you say), but maybe it was something else. He clearly likes it. I actually like TEO AND TEA more than most people (cheesy, but lovely "surface" lolli-synth-pop!), but even Jarre himself doesn't like it very much. My top 5 "regular" JMJ albums (not counting bootlegs, film music, "rare tracks", conceptualizations etc.)? Perhaps something like this: 1. CHRONOLOGIE 2. EN CONCERT - HOUSTON/LYON 3. EQUINOXE 4. REVOLUTIONS 5. METAMORPHOSES That's right. No OXYGENE, although that's a fine work too (I think I prefer OXYGENE 7-13 more, and haven't been able to properly get into the recent OXYGENE 3 yet). There's really no JMJ work that I outright dislike, but I admit having a hard time enjoying some of the early weirdo tracks, like "Exasperated Frog" on DESERTED PALACE, or abstract musique concrete/concept music like PRINTEMPS DE BOURGES, INTERIOR MUSIC etc. But I find them very fascinating. My favourite "abstract" track to get lost in -- in a positive sense -- is the extended "Waiting for Costeau" (inspired me to write a short story when I was a teenager). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Does anyone more hip than me know which if any of the countless subgenres of electronic music this might roughly fit into, focusing mostly on the slow psychedelic groove aspect? I'm sure there must be a style that encompasses that sort of thing, but I wouldn't know where to start looking. Somewhat similar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Rhythmically very impressive Created with the GROOVE system at Bell Labs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 No reaction on that GROOVE System piece? Not even from Prometheus Sharky? This forum is really going down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 On 13.4.2017 at 10:56 PM, TheGreyPilgrim said: Does anyone more hip than me know which if any of the countless subgenres of electronic music this might roughly fit into, focusing mostly on the slow psychedelic groove aspect? I'm sure there must be a style that encompasses that sort of thing, but I wouldn't know where to start looking. Some of it reminds me of a certain type of 'ambient' (like Future Sound of London or Shamen), only more melodic. I also hear echoes of the world music New Age that we associate with gigs like Era, Enigma, Deep Forest etc. 1 hour ago, Alexcremers said: No reaction on that GROOVE System piece? Not even from Prometheus Sharky? This forum is really going down the drain. Sounds like basic tribal beats, used in several of those 'exotica' albums in the 60s, but also the kind they would later employ (in a far more hardhitting way) with psytrance and goa two decades later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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