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I'm bummed because no one announced a Live-to-Projection concert, today. I'd go. Screw the DCP 4K screening.
You would think that one concert production company would put this out by now.
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I have a chance to attend the LTP concerts of ROTJ and TFA in Washington, DC in 2019 and I need to know this:
What point in each of these 2 films does it split into 2 acts?
Thanks,
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12 hours ago, lairdo said:
Less likely
I would love to see 1941 but again, it’s not on anyone’s radar
Also, in this politically correct environment, I don't think the concert venues will allow to show a movie where there's a racial slur and the display of Susan Backlinie's bare booty.
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The concert production company, Film Concerts Live, has done 5 feature-length, Live-to-Projection, concert programs of Steven Spielberg films with John Williams’ music:
Will FCL do another Spielberg/Williams film in 2019? If so, what film will it be?
Here is what I think will be potentials. My guesses are based on what American concert venues might be receptive to. I’m thinking that they will take programs that will attract family audiences—more kids, more money.
Oh, and the remaining Indiana Jones films are off this table as they are owned by Disney and they may be produced through DisneyConcerts.
- Lost World-Jurassic Park: It was knocked down by critics, but kids still love dinosaurs. When I attended the Jurassic Park-LTP concerts, I would see children dressed in dinosaur masks and their spiked-backed snuggies. The film itself is no more violent then the first, just the peril is intense. For FCL, it will go well in their Jurassic franchise that includes JP and Jurassic World which BTW I’ve not seen any bookings for it since its Washington, DC premiere last May. I hope that Lost World-LTP will have a live-rhythm section in the orchestra and not an electronic sampler or sound that’s outputted from the soundtrack.
- Hook: It’s family-friendly with popular characters and places that children and adults have known--Neverland, Captain Hook, Tinkerbell. I personally hope that FCL doesn’t do it because the film was boring. Although these venues serve wine and beer, I don’t want to turn to alcohol to get through an evening.
Here are other highly acclaimed Spielberg/Williams films that may not receive support from USA concert venues:
- Schindler’s List: Although it has received Oscars, directions, scoring, and Best Picture; the film has nudity (and not presented in a sexy context), it’s too violent, and too long at its 3 hour-and-15-minute running time, plus 20 minutes for intermission, and a few minutes for entr’acte music. All that would be too much for a venue to gamble.
- Saving Private Ryan: Another Oscar-winner for Best Picture and Best Director has some graphic war sequences, and that’s at the film’s opening.
I suspect that if Spielberg asks FCL to prepare LTP concerts for any of these films, they’ll do it just to maintain the relationship with Spielberg and Williams. If some of these programs do not get bookings in the USA, they’ll have a better shot outside of the country. For example, LTP concerts of the films, Aliens and Gladiator have performed in European territories including England, Dublin, and Moscow and have yet to reach the USA concert halls.
On the other hand, both FCL and the USA concert venues can surprise us in 2019.
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I saw that Skyfall was the latest title in their Film Concert Live website last week, but it didn’t have any bookings posted at the time. I checked the RAH website at that same time and I didn't see this program in their schedule. It was only this morning that FCL announced the RAH as the venue of this program.
I suspect that FCL is working with the venues in that FCL doesn’t make any premature announcements of what venues will presenting their programs before the venues have a chance to do so.
For example: CineCincerts listed their program, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, as being presented by Davies Symphony Hall in San Francisco, CA for this August 2019.
Davies has yet to make their official announcement of their Summer with the Symphony 2019 schedule, let alone their 2019-2020 schedule.
You can imagine the box office staff at Davies are going to have a nightmare with this during the next few months. Harry Potter fans can get very demanding
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Film Concerts Live! is proud to present Skyfall in Concert, the second installment in the James Bond Concert Series, produced in association with EON Productions and Metro Goldwyn Mayer Studios (MGM). Daniel Craig returns as the legendary secret agent in the franchise’s most successful film to date. For the first time, audiences around the world will be able to experience composer Thomas Newman’s BAFTA-winning original score performed live a full symphony orchestra in sync to the picture!
http://filmconcertslive.com/movies/skyfall/
And we have a date:
The Royal Albert Hall, 4th October and 5th October, 2019
Tickets will go on general sale at 9am on Friday 30 November
https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/events/2019/skyfall-in-concert/
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May be that is it. That is why I'll listen to TFA, again, only at a LTP concert.
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15 hours ago, SyncMan said:
That’s the only way I’ll give TFA another listen, when it's at a concert setting. There was something about how the brass sounded at the Sony Scoring Stage, where the original soundtrack recording was made, that rubbed me the wrong way.
47 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:I think the brass sounds fine on TFA, but even if I didn't I can't imagine thinking it sounded so bad that I'd refuse to EVER listen to the score again. That's kinda weird, man.
Just to be clear, it's not so much the brass section's playing in as much as how their sound is heard in the acoustics of the Sony Scoring Stage. I'm sure Williams recruits the best players in the LA area, but the room's quality is not the same as back in the 1980's through the 1990's when it was known as the MGM Scoring Stage. Some kind of renovation was done in that room that created that quality and how it affected the sound of other scores recorded there in recent years. I guess I miss that sound in Williams music. That's one of the reasons why I dislike the TFA score.
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Thanks for that, Jay
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From @indy4's review of the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra concert, John Williams-Maestro of the Movies, back in 2013
On 9/17/2013 at 2:56 AM, indy4 said:Spielberg said "We're definitely coming back to SF!" during one of the many standing ovations we gave--I wonder if he says that at every gig. I hope not...
I see that the SF Symphony, over the years, did all of the Spielberg/Williams films for L2P—E.T., Jaws, Raiders, and Jurassic Park. Did Spielberg and/or Williams return for any of these concerts? I was at the SF Symphony’s Jurassic Park concert, the 2nd show, and I didn’t see them.
I would think the two would come back for this North American premiere of CE3K-L2P in San Francisco.
Spielberg and Williams can talk to the audience about how they have adapted the score for this concert version. In this YouTube video that @PHOENIX provided…
…this scene had no music in any of the versions of the film, but you hear it here.
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According to the CineConcerts/Harry Potter site...
https://www.harrypotterinconcert.com/global-tour
...Azkaban will be in San Francisco’s Davies Symphony Hall this August 2019.
IMO, The San Francisco Symphony Orchestra has done more LTP concerts than any orchestra in the USA. This past summer, alone, they done 5—3 Star Wars concerts, the Little Mermaid, and Harry Potter…Chamber of Secrets
Now we know what LTP concert the SFSO is giving this summer. That leaves, maybe, 4 more. Let the guessing begin, Bay Area folks
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4 hours ago, Bilbo said:
I’d love to see the LSO do TFA live, I might enjoy the score more with a proper sounding Star Wars brass section.
That’s the only way I’ll give TFA another listen, when it's at a concert setting. There was something about how the brass sounded at the Sony Scoring Stage, where the original soundtrack recording was made, that rubbed me the wrong way.
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On 11/5/2016 at 7:04 AM, Omen II said:
- One of the best audience reactions greeted the Jeff Goldblum shirtless recline scene. In fairness the internet has made it chortle worthy
I've been to the Jurassic Park L2P concerts in Indianapolis, IN and San Francisco, CA and all the audiences from both programs were laughing hysterically at that shot. I'm not seeing what's so funny. I can understand certain shots and lines may not be funny at the time of release, but are now. Example: the boy looking at the gadgets in the car and says that it has a CD-ROM: That got a laugh by the audience--and I can see why.
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My reason for asking this is that I went to two Star Wars: Live-to-Projection concerts at the Kennedy Center, Washington, DC—A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back—with the National Symphony Orchestra conducted by Steven Reineke. I was disappointed with how the brass section handled the playing of Williams outstanding notes—they were not pronouncing the notes as sharply as they should be. Other orchestras I’ve witness on stage did a better job at them—the Baltimore Symphony and the New Jersey Symphony. I would think that if Maestro Reineke have heard these wrong notes that he would work hard in having the brass musicians correct them, but, to my ear, he didn’t and just let them get away with it. I’m wondering if it may be the lack of rehearsal time the orchestra may have been given that is causing the problem.
Incidentally, during the intermission of the SW-ANH performance in New Jersey, one of the French horn players volunteered to greet the audience and I asked him how much rehearsal time the orchestra had in this program. He said that they had two 4-hour rehearsals—one rehearsal a day—within 7 days before the first public performance. So I’m wondering if other orchestras have a different procedure.
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My report on the Star Wars-ANH concert with the New Jersey Symphony Orchestra at Prudential Hall, Newark, NJ:
I had high hopes for this because of the program’s conductor Constantine Kitsopoulos. I was in San Francisco on Nov. 3rd when he led the SF Symphony for Jurassic Park and the brass playing was great.
I mentioned the brass section because I attended the Kennedy Center for two Star Wars concerts by the National Symphony Orchestra, under Steven Reineke—ANH and ESB—and the brass playing was very poor on both programs. They were not pronouncing the notes as sharply as they should be. I blame both the brass section for their playing and Maestro Reineke for letting the brass section get away with it. I have tickets for the NSO concert of RotJ by the NSO, under Reineke, and I’m dreading on going. The NSO’s brass section were better on other programs I’ve witnessed such as Jaws and Casino Royale, both conducted by Emil de Cou.
Back to the NJSO program. When Maestro Kitsopoulos arrived on stage, he did greet the audience and encourage them to cheer, laugh, and applaud at their favorites characters—for which they did. A few of the audience members, actually, applauded at the end of the Binary Sunset cue. I’m happy to say that the brass section sounded great—not a lazy tongue in the bunch. And Prudential Hall in Newark with its surrounding wood surfaces gave the orchestra—especially the brass section—a crisp sounding quality that was very pleasing to the ear when the orchestra’s reading is well done. For me, it is the best sounding performance of SW:ANH I’ve heard in a concert setting. I think I’ll end my SW:ANH concert going, here, having gone to three, already.
Now, I’m excited to go back to Newark for ESB this January.
I hope that the orchestra can do RoTJ and TFA next season.
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On 7/12/2018 at 10:29 AM, Ricard said:Also on July 21, the National Symphony Orchestra will perform Jaws live to picture in Vienna (Virginia, US):
https://www.wolftrap.org/tickets/calendar/performance/18filene/0721show18.aspx
I went to Wolf Trap, Vienna, VA for the weekend. They had a L2P weekend program—Jaws on Saturday and Casino Royale on Sunday. Wolf Trap is a type of amphitheatre where there’s this barn that is made into a theater. The pavilion structure, where I sat, is made of wood and it’s not fully enclosed, like a conventional theater.
The Saturday for the Jaws concert got-off to a rough start. The city of Virginia had a record of 4-inches of rain that day—this nor’easter began early in the morning and finished as late as 10pm. I got to the theater 45 minutes before the show, but the ‘lobby’ was the outdoor park that surrounds the pavilion and we had to wait in the park—in the rain—until a half-hour before the show before we can get to our seats. By the time we got to the aisles, we were soaked. Despite the pavilion sheltering me from the rain, you hear raindrops hitting the wooden structure of the barn, claps of thunder, and siren blaring. Seeing the final half of Jaws where the action takes place on a boat, in the open water while you are soaking-wet in the middle of a rainstorm was a very unusual movie-going experience for me.
Nonetheless, the National Symphony Orchestra executed the score with menacing beauty, especially the brass section. The audience was in good spirits. They gave thunderous applause at the end of Quint’s first scene at city hall; there were laughs at the dinner scene with Brody, Ellen and Hooper; and a big cheer at the shark’s killing.
I’ll have to find another venue for the Jaws program, preferably in a conventional theater.
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I started going to these things since April. My first was “Batman-Live” with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra. I live in the East Coast and this program was not being given anywhere near me, so, I had to brave a cross-coast flight to San Fran--my first airplane ride, ever. The orchestra performed beautifully—the brass section was very strong. I don’t regret my experience.
Since then, I’ve attended these:
Jaws- Wolf Trap-Vienna, VA
Casino Royale-Wolf Trap-Vienna, VA
Harry Potter…Azkaban- Wolf Trap-Vienna, VA
Jurassic Park-Indianapolis, IN
Get Out-Washington, DC
Star Wars: ANH- Washington, DC
Star Wars: ANH- Baltimore, MD
Star Wars: ESB-Washington, DC
Jurassic Park-San Francisco, CA
I would love to see the following:
Aliens-Live
Independence Day-Live
I’ve started writing letters to the artistic directors representing the orchestras/music centers in my area in my asking them to present these said programs. For Aliens-Live, I worked in a #MeTooMovement angle in my letter. I said that the female members of that movement will give a cathartic cheer when Ripley says the line, “Get off her, you bitch.”
Will my pleas be answered? We’ll know during the first quarter of 2019. That’s when the orchestras/music centers will announce their schedules for the 2019/2020 season that begins in September. Some orchestras will have their summer-concert schedules posted during that period, also.
Keep your fingers crossed.
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On 11/20/2016 at 3:23 PM, Jay said:
For the end, they orchestra played the cue from Jerry's Alien score?
I found this conversation on FilmScoreMonthly Forums:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113907&forumID=1&archive=0
One guy asks:
QuoteCan anyone tell me if the two tracked "Alien"(1979) cues, Sleepy Alien and Parker`s Death (used in the shots where Ripley and Newt make their escape from the queen in the elevator) were performed at that concert?
Another member replied:
QuoteYes they were. As I said all the tracked music was performed
According to this webpage:
http://www.aliens-live.com/tour-dates/
(see photo below)
…this concert played in Dublin and Moscow (see photo). So, I would like to join Jay and ask if any of you that attended these concerts to tell us what music was played during the intermission and the entr’acte—the music that begins act 2.
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I attended the Sunday evening concert of the North American premiere for Casino Royale with the National Symphony Orchestra at Wolf Trap-Vienna, VA.
As a result of my research on this concert via the YouTube videos of the RAH premiere, I noticed that the cut that was shown at the concert was the international cut that has 22 seconds of additional footage. The two scenes—the bathroom fight and the Montenegro-hotel stairwell fight—were the ones that got extended. If you look at the 2-minute mark in this YouTube video where Bond bashes the bad guy with the swivel door…
….that shot was not in the USA cut. You can read about differences between the USA and the International cuts, here
So, I was wondering whether this version will play at the Wolf Trap concert. If the production company that produced the concert, Film Concerts Live, is forced to play the re-edited USA cut at Wolf Trap, they may have to transcribe the music that was re-edited for those said scenes on to the score pages for the musicians to play. Well, at Wolf Trap when I saw the shot of the bad guy getting his head bashed by that door, I know I was watching the international cut.
I did notice these changes in the score performed at that concert:
- The start of the Madagascar scene where Bond and a partner were watching their bomber suspect engaging in a snake-vs-mongoose fight: In the film’s sound mix, there was some exotic “percussion” playing at the start of that scene, where as there was no music played, at all, at the concert.
- The start of the foot chase between Bond and the bomber suspect: In the film’s sound mix, there was exotic percussion. At the concert, that percussion was replaced by a tambourine.
Other than a brief rain storm at the venue (although I didn’t get wet at my pavilion seat, the rain hitting the wooden structure and the claps of thunder were audible) and a challenge to find a taxi after the show to take me back to my hotel room, I’m glad that I made my attendance at the concert.
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On 10/1/2018 at 9:37 AM, MrScratch said:
The orchestra nailed it. I attended two performances of this, the Friday night and the Sunday afternoon. At the Friday show, the conductor did not address the audience before starting the movie and no one cheered at the movie apart from the Main Title and End Credits. At Sunday's show, the conductor enthusiastically addressed the audience before the movie and invited everyone to cheer and applause during the movie - which they very much did. People cheered and laughed at every character's first appearance, every line of classic recitable dialogue and every iconic moment.
I attended the Saturday afternoon show of that concert with The Baltimore Symphony Orchestra.
Conductor Jack Everly greeted the audience before the show where he said:
“Good afternoon, fellow members of the Resistance”
It got a laugh.
In Maestro Everly’s defense, there was an audience member that was in a Rey costume--a bandaged face with goggles over the eyes.
CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND - Live to Projection Concerts (1998 Final Cut used)
in JOHN WILLIAMS
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To the folks in the Bay Area:
I’m reminded of the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra’s LTP concert of The Matrix where the stage of Davies Symphony Hall is lit with a green gel matching the hue in specific scenes of the film.
I wouldn't put it pass Davies to, at least, consider using a live-color-changing-light scheme for the ‘conservation’ piece in CE3K-LTP coming this March, however, the colored-lighting would change quickly to match the effects in the film. Which do you think this will do for you?