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  1. 6 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

    I don't think no algorithm nor human could have predicted that Oppenheimer would be the monster hit it was. Heck, before 2023 begun how could anyone predict that Oppenheimer would outgross every Marvel and DC movie of the year? Indy 5, The Flash, those were the movies people were expecting to be highest grossing movie of the summer, not a 3 hour biopic set in WWII where most of the scenes is people in suits in tense discussions.

     

    Not even the fact that it was a Christopher Nolan movie would be enough. His latest movie before Oppenheimer wasn't exactly beloved (Tenet). Also, his biggest hits either had Batman and/or action and sci-fi elements that theoretically made them closer to what we understand as a big blockbuster movie on these days.

     

    Also, there are a lot of other factors that could have impacted in Oppenheimer's performance. Barbie could've moved to another date and the whole Barbenheimer thing would've never happened, the movie itself could have been "less good" and not have connected to the audiences as much as it did, Flash, Indy or M: I could've been the big summer movies (and the latter two in particular were thought by some to be the "Top Gun: Maverick of 2023" - another movie whose monstrous box office couldn't have been predicted by anyone)...

     

    In other words: since 2022 (the first year post-pandemic to have actually a relatively normal release schedule) it became harder and harder to predict which movies are going to break out in a given year. Before Covid it was easy: just bet on the big Marvel movie of the year or the Disney live-action remake, Pixar sequel, etc. Now it's harder than ever.

     

    For this year, people are expecting Despicable Me 4 and Deadpool & Wolverine to be the summer's biggest hits. But what if neither of them even reaches Dune 2? What if this summer's big hit is actually, I dunno, the new Planet of the Apes? Furiosa? Twisters?

     

    As the man said:

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    Nobody knows anything. Not one person in the entire motion picture field knows for a certainty what’s going to work,” he continued. “Every time out it’s a guess and, if you’re lucky, an educated one.

     

  2. 12 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said:

     

    Reminds me of the story a couple of years ago when the Culture Secretary of the UK had a meeting with Microsoft executives and reportedly asked them when they were going to get rid of algorithms.

     

    I learned the word algorithms when I was 13 from the novelization of Tron. Flynn would describe his chemistry with Lora by obnoxiously declaring "Algorithms!"

     

    (Yup. I'm a nerd going way back now.)

  3. 10 hours ago, Edmilson said:

     

    "Algorithms" is a much scarier word that "focus testing" or even "decisions by the suits".

     

    Every time there is a breakout success like Oppenheimer or Dune going back to Star Wars and certainly beyond everyone says "Oh! Someone took a big gamble and trusted the audience" or whatever. But then there is some weird thing that is an absolute disaster (like... Dune) and everyone says "Who thought THIS was a good idea?!?"

     

    "So! You've got a new movie for me?" "Yes sir, I do!"

  4. Gotta say "cosplay" beats the hell out of "garb".

     

    8 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

    Wasn't aware of this part of Star Trek history... Back when letter-writing campaigns could actually make a difference.

     

    I'm not sure if I ever met John, but I met Bjo just before TNG went on the air. (I might have met both of them at the same time. But she was the one who had written a book.)

  5. 13 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

    Even Spielberg himself probably forgets that he made Always lol

     

    The Abyss did bomb at the box office back in 89. It's funny that in the late 80s a James Cameron science fiction about water was a box office failure while a DC superhero movie starring Michael Keaton as Batman and an Indiana Jones movie where he fights nazis were breaking records. A little more than three decades later and the exact opposite of that happened :lol:

     

    I still love Always. The movie. The score? It's an all time classic and I have nothing to apologize for. It's in my "The Black Hole" category of expanded scores that I bought and years later I still listen to CONSTANTLY.

  6. 4 hours ago, Edmilson said:

    Just like Batman, The Last Crusade, Ghostbusters 2, Lethal Weapon 2 and, by the end of the year, The Little Mermaid and Back to the Future Part 2.

     

    It must've been a crazy year for movie nerds! Probably the most packed full of blockbusters since Jaws and Star Wars invented the concept.

     

    It was a great year to be 20. You forgot the Abyss. And everyone forgets Always.

  7. 12 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

    It coming down to between him and Craig last time round and having The Cold Light Of Day, The Man From U.N.C.L.E., MI : Fallout, Argylle and The Ministry Of Ungentlemanly Warfare on his resume ... has there ever been a more 'close, but no cigar' actor when it comes to Bond than Cavill? 

     

    Pierce Brosnan (1986 - 1994). :D

  8. 36 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

    There are a lot of terrible Bond movies that have fewer redeeming features than No Time to Die… and I’m quite confident I’d prefer to rewatch any of them before watching this AI trash.

     

    Yavar

     

    I enjoyed Skyfall and SPECTRE well enough. It's been more a timing thing that I haven't seen NttD. And I will watch anything in the Craig or Brosnan era (including - barely - Die Another Day) before I watch A View to a Kill again.

  9. 18 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

    Right now if anybody can keep it up I guess it'll be Timothee Chalamet.

     

    Agreed.

     

    18 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

    I'm still not really getting the sense that Glen Powell is lighting hearts on fire.

     

    I just feel like someone "important" wants him to.

     

    We watched The Breakfast Club last night. It was remarkable to think that every one of those five kids seemed to be on the cusp of superstardom and none of them really made it.

  10. 1 minute ago, stravinsky said:

    I'm listening to this magnificent score again now. I just wonder why Williams dropped the Droid motif from Empire. He composed a new idea (although I don't think it's repeated anywhere else in the ROTJ score) first presented when we see C-3P0 & R2D2 journeying towards Jabba's Palace at the beginning of the Movie. Possibly just another example of Williams' inexhaustible invention with the desire not to repeat himself. The Droid Motif from Episode V is one of my favourite lesser themes from the orginal Star Wars trilogy. 

     

    I always thought the same thing until I got the 1997 set and I realized that it isn't another droid motif, it's actually a variation on Jabba's theme. 

  11. 10 minutes ago, dyemery said:

    I hope the movie is scored by someone along the lines of Tangerine Dream like Cliff Martinez or such instead of a composer known for standard action or animated flicks.

     

    Hmmm. The director is Josh Cooley, a Pixar guy. Specifically "Worked on a lot of MG scored Pixar films" guy.

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