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A cover for the PBS Great Performances theme: Rózsa's Plymouth Adventure:

Quo Vadis (1951) Miklós Rózsa Source: full score of the 2012 Tadlow recording, reconstructed by Leigh Phillips and Rebecca Thomas Intermezzo [Overture] 1M1 Main Title 1M1 Main Title - Opening Insert 1M1B Appian Way - Drums 1M1C Calvary 1M2 Marcus’ Chariot 2M2 Lygia 2M3 Hymn to Apollo (Dinner Music) 3M1 Marcus & Lygia 3M2 Preghiera 3M3 Fertility Dance 4M2-3 Hail Nero (Triumphal March) 4M4 Eunice 4M5-5M1 The Hostage 5M2 The Women’s Quarters of Nero 5M3 Bacchanale 5M5 Assyrian Dance 6M1 Sicilian Antiqua 6M2 Dance of the Muses 6M3 Escape 7M1 Petronius & Eunice 7M2 Chilo 7M4 The Last Supper 8M1 Resurrection Ham 8M2 Vae Victis 8M3 Caritas 8M4 Mea Culpa 9M1 Non Monia Vincit Amor 9MA Temptation 10M1 Petronius’ Presentiment 10M2 Marcus and Poppaea (Hymn to the Sun) 11M1 Chariot Chase 12X4 Prelude to Second Part 12M1 The Road to Rome 12M2 The Burning of Rome - Part 1 12M2 Ecce Homo Petrus 12M3 The Burning of Rome - Part 2 13M1 Tu Es Petrus 13M2 Petronius’ Meditation 14M1 Petronius’ Decision 14M2 The Prison 14M3 The Vision of Peter 14M4 Petronius’ Banquet 15M1 Petronius’ Death - Part 1 15M2 Petronius’ Death - Part 2 15M3 Ave Caesar 16M4 Aftermath 17M1 Hymen 18M2 Nero’s Suicide 19MA Finis Poppaea 19M2 Hail Galba 19M3 Finale & Chorus 19MX Epilogue ‘Jesu Lord’ Eunice’s Song at Antium (Invocation to Venus) ‘The Burning of Rome’ - Nero’s Fire Song ‘Where O Death?’ - First Arena Hymn ‘Incarnate Godhead’ - Third Arena Hymn ‘Upon These Lillies’

Yeah! Some are just atmospheric underscore, but there's some interesting material, too. Here's all the known cues that are completely unreleased: 1M6 They Want To Believe the President 1M7 It’s The Lie 3M1 Did I Approve 3M3 T.V. Debate 3M4 Election Results 3M5 I Hate Losing 4M1 Mother’s Faithful Dog 4M2 Sound Like Mother 4M4 Football In Whittier 4M4R Football To Campaigning 4M7ABC Early Days (Pat And Dick Theme) Alternate Version 4M8 I Want A Divorce 8M7 Talking With Lincoln 9M1 Harold’s Death 10M3 Meeting On The Potomac 12M2 Family Chat 12M5+6 It’s The Lie 13M4 Hoover’s Death And The Jones Ranch 17M4 Back To Life 21M1 Praying Interesting! I haven't seen the film in quite a long time, so I wasn't aware that was the case. Looks like it will need to be a 2-disc release, then.

For comparison: Cinderella Liberty 0:42 in film, 0:35 OST (7+ minutes unreleased) Nixon 1:38 in film, 0:47 OST (51+ minutes unreleased) The Patriot 1:32 in film, 1:13 OST (26+ minutes unreleased) Seven Years in Tibet 1:20 in film, 1:06 OST (21+ minutes unreleased)

Alright, so we will get some JW from Intrada this year after all! I’m hoping it might be The Patriot or Nixon, since they’re likely the only label that could do those given the Hollywood Records–Disney connection, and they both have a ton of unreleased music.

Here that is, which features the original 5M6 The Inner City: The only change in the revision was to remove the bars intended for this deleted scene.

I think it may be two different takes. The timpani seems noticeably more aggressive in the SE version.

Ah, I haven’t seen this before! Interestingly, they did watch the march on the Jedi temple scene as part of the spotting, and it seems Williams was planning to write a cue for it at that point:

There seems to be gaps in the cue numbering for all the tracked music: 1M3 Boys Into Battle 1M4 They're Coming Around 1M4A "Get 'EM, R-2!" 1M5 The Elevator Scene 1M6 Count Dooku's Entrance 1M7 The Death of Dooku [1M8] Dive, Dive 2M1 Grievous and the Droids [2M2] Crash 2M3 Another Happy Landing 2M4 Revisiting Padmé 2M5 Grievous Travels to Palpatine 2M6 Scenes and Dreams 2M7 Be Careful of Your Friend 3M1 Council Meeting 3M2 Hold Me 3M2A Palpatine's TV Set 3M3 Palpatine's Big Pitch [3M4] Wookies Attack 3M5 Goodbye Old Friend 3M6 Going to Utapau 3M7 Riding the Lizard 3M8 Obi-Wan Faces Droids 4M1X Drawing Swords 4M1A Good Guys Arrive [4M2] Council Roundtable 4M3 Palpatine's Seduction 4M4 Rolling With Grievous 4M4A Fighting With Grievous 4M5 Dialogue With Mace 4M5A Padmé's Ruminations 4M6 I am the Senate 5M1 Palpatine Instructs Anakin [5M2] Anakin March 5M3 Lament 5M3A Bail's Escape

It seems like 4M2 was reserved for that scene, though, implying music (or at least tracked music) was planned all along. It even has a title in the GEMA database, “Council Roundtable”.

There's also the excerpt of the Imperial March in the end credits.

Hmm, actually I’m not as sure about reasoning behind the tracking in Episode III. I remember it being specifically mentioned that many of the arena battle scenes were incomplete when Williams was scoring Episode II, so I assumed it was a similar situation for ROTS. Prequel experts: @Manakin Skywalker @Jay happen to know?

I believe it's also around 7 minutes (a bit longer if you count the partially re-recorded Duel of the Fates), but in that case the tracking was used for scenes that weren't completed in time to be scored, unlike TROS were the tracked music replaced music written and recorded specifically for the film.

I wanted a contrast to the original LP cover for the Tadlow digital re-recording of Rózsa's King of Kings, so I made this from the cover of a book included with the old LP: Also, I couldn't find a satisfactory image of the original LP cover for El Cid: And while I'm on a Rózsa kick, a custom alternate cover suitable for either the original LP or Rhino 2-CD release:

Me, too! Here’s list of just what’s on the OST and FYC for which alternates are known to exist (or are likely to exist): Prologue Journey to Exegol (2nd half) Falcon Flight* To Kijimi Join Me The Old Death Star (1st half) Destiny of a Jedi Healing Wounds The Battle of the Resistance Approaching the Throne Parents Coming Together The Force Is With You* Farewell* A New Home Finale *more than one alternate

Roughly 7:40!

Fun fact about the ridiculous amount of tracking in this film: not even counting tracking of cues actually recorded for Episode IX, of which there are many cases, there are 20 instances of tracking of cues from 4 other Star Wars films! The Force Awakens (9) 1M1A Starry Night 3M26R You’re Han Solo (x2) 4M36R I Ran Into You 5M46R Kylo Stalks Rey 6M50R Han and Leia Reunion 6M56E Ren in Cockpit 7M65B Father And Son 8M77 March of the Resistance The Last Jedi (7) 1M9 Revisiting Snoke (x2) 2M18A Holdo’s Secret Plan 4M36 Luke and Rey 5M48 Insert 9M85A Insert - Rey Looks 0M8 Saying Goodbye to the Fathier Revenge of the Sith (3) 7M3 The Birth of the Twins (x2) 7M5 Plans for the Twins Return of the Jedi (1) 13M2 Vader’s Death Total: 4 films, 17 unique cues, 20 instances

To paraphrase Roger Ebert, "No good [score] is too long and no bad [score] is short enough."

I don't believe the "New" designation in 8M6 New necessarily means the cue was revised. Williams is rather inconsistent with how he uses "New". Sometimes cues marked "New" are revisions, and sometimes "New" means that the reels have been revised, requiring a change to the numbering. It definitely seems to be the later in this case, because 9M3 The Banquet and 9M5 Cutting the Coconut are also labelled 9M1 New and 9M3 New on the sketches.

Thanks so much for this! As popular as Hook is around here, I was wondering when someone would get around to mocking up this significant unheard bit.

You seem especially knowledgeable about the details of Gold and Silver Age film scoring.

Hmm, I feel like @Yavar Moradi might know: was there a time when the standard length of a reel was less than 10 minutes? I timed a couple Ben-Hur reels that are continuously scored, and they timed out around 7–8 minutes.

Oops! I meant Mïkłõß Røžšå. I’m not really clear on that. For comparison, Rósza’s King of Kings, from around the same time, is a “mere” 21 reels. 32 approx. 10-minute reels would time out well over 5 hours! I can’t imagine even the earliest rough cut was that long.

Ben Hur (1959) Miklós Rósza Source: reduced scores 1MA Overture 1M1 Anno Domini 1M2 Star of Bethlehem 1M3 Adoration of the Magi 2MA Fanfare to Prelude 2M1 Prelude 2M2 Marcia Romana 2M3 Spirit and Sword 2M3 Spirit and Sword (Final Version) 2M1A His Father’s Business (Version A) 2M1 His Father’s Business (Version B) 3MA Quintus Arrius 3M4 Friendship 3M5 Friendship (Continued) 4M1 The House of Hur 5M1 Conflict 5M2 Esther 6M1 The Unknown Future 6M2 Love Theme (New) 6M3 Ring for Freedom 7M1A Arrest 7M2 Revenge 7M2 Reminiscences 7M3 Condemned—New 8M1 Escape 8M3 Vengeance 8M4 The Prison—Part 1 8M5 Behind Grills 9M1 The Prison—Part 2 9M1 Silent Farewell 9M1A Desert—New 9M2 The Desert 9M3 Exhaustion 9M4 The Prince of Peace—Version A 9M4A The Prince of Peace (Version A)—New Ending 9M4A The Prince of Peace (Version A)—Final Ending 9M4A The Prince of Peace (Version B) 9M5 Roman Galley 10M2 Salute for Arrius 10M2 Arrius Helped to Galley 10M3 Roman Fleet 11M1 The Galley No. 1 (Normal Speed) 11M2 The Galley No. 2 (Battle Speed) 11M3 The Galley No. 3 (Attack Speed) 11M4 The Galley No. 4 (Ramming Speed) 11M5 Rest 11M6 Battle Preparations—Part 1 12M1 Battle Preparations—Part 2 12M2 The Pirate Fleet 12M2A Attack! 12M2B Ramming Speed 12M3 Battle—Part 1 12M3A Battle—Part 2 12M4 Battle—Part 3 13M1 Roman Sails 13M2A The Rowers 14M2 Fertility Dance 14M2-3 Arrius’ Party 14M3 Arrius’ Party (Continued) 14M3A Nostalagia 14M4 Farewell to Rome 14M4 Judea No. 2 (New) 14M5 A Barren Coast 15M1 Judea 15M1 Balthazar 15M1+2 Judea (New) 16MA Balthazar’s World 16M1 Homecoming 16M1 Homecoming—New 16M1 Homecoming—Final Version 18M1 The Dungeon 18M1+2 Memories 18M2 Lepers—New 18M3 Hatred—New 19M1 Lepers 19M3 Return—Alternate Intro 19M3/20M1 Return and Return—Cont’d 20M2 Promise 20M3 Sorrow 20M3 Sorrow and Intermission 21M1 Intermission 21M1 Intermission (New) 23M1 Entr’acte 23M1 Entr’acte—New 23M1 Panem Et Circuses March 23M3 New Fanfare for Circus Parade 23M3, 4, 5 & 6 Circus Fanfares—New 23M3 No. 1 They Are Ready 23M4 No. 2 Signal For Chariots 23M5 No. 3 Entrance of the M.O.C. 23M6 No. 4 Exit of the M.O.C. 26M1 Bitter Triumph 26M2 Aftermath 26M2 Aftermath—New 26M2A Aftermath—3rd Ending 26M3 Valley of Lepers 27MA The Search 27MA1 The Search—New Ending 27M1 The Uncleans 27M2 Road of Sorrow 27M2 Road of Sorrow—New Beginning 28M1 The Mount 28M2 The Sermon—New (Version 1) 28M2 The Sermon—New (Version 2) 29M1 Frustration 30M1 Valley of the Dead 30M1 Valley of the Dead—Final 30M2 Tirzah Saved 30M2 Tirzah Saved—New Ending 30M3 The Procession to Calvary 31M1 The Bearing of the Cross 31M2 Recognition 31M2 Recognition—New Ending 31M3 Golgotha—Version III 32M2 The Miracle—Alternate Ending 32M3 Finale 32M3 Finale—New Beginning 32M3 Alternate Beginning to Finale Circus Fanfares No. 1 They Are Ready No. 2 Signal for Chariots No. 3 Entrance of M.O.C. No. 4A Exit of M.O.C. No. 4B [untitled] Circus Parade Finale—Choral Ending Version A Finale—Choral Ending Version B Finale [Mixed Chorus] Gratus’ Entry to Jerusalem Harun al Rozsad Love Theme Salute for Messala Salute for Gratus Trumpet Calls for Sea Battle Victory Parade (Long Version) Victory Parade (Short Version) Victory Finale